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Old 09-30-11, 05:40 PM
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EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

So here we have a class that teaches students how to work as emergency medical technicians, saying that its students should not be exposed to people with medical problems. What nonsense!


http://denver.cbslocal.com/2011/09/2...sy-disruptive/

Student Says She Was Forced To Drop Class After Seizure

September 29, 2011

ASPEN, Colo. (CBS4) – A former student at Colorado Mountain College says she was forced to drop a class because she had a seizure.

Channing Seideman was in the middle of an emergency medical technician class when she had an epileptic seizure. She said faculty members asked her to drop the class, saying the episode was too distracting to other students and there could be more.

Seideman said it was a violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act and she’s filed a complaint against the school.

She doesn’t want other people to experience the same thing.

“They’re allowed to have a seizure in class. They don’t have to get kicked out. It’s kind of just paving the way for other people with disabilities or epileptics,” Seideman told CBS4.

Colorado Mountain College did not return calls from CBS4. It told the Aspen Times it cares about all its students.
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

So, a person needs CPR out in the field, but now we're supposed to keep a seizure-prone student as a reliable EMT resource?
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

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So, a person needs CPR out in the field, but now we're supposed to keep a seizure-prone student as a reliable EMT resource?
That wasn't the issue in this case. But I do see your point.
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

Originally Posted by DVD Polizei View Post
So, a person needs CPR out in the field, but now we're supposed to keep a seizure-prone student as a reliable EMT resource?
Not sure if your serious or not, however I would agree. Its too much of a liability too have some one like that in a job like this
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

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But I do see your point.
So do I. DVD Polizei, please put on some pants.
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

Yes, I'm serious.

[pants back on]

This woman is a dumbass. Can't wait for a quad to start bitching about not being able to be an EMT.

"But wait! I CAN give CPR. Just have somebody through my body on that man's chest! See, it works. Kinda. Maybe. Sorta."
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

Taking a class does not mean she wants to do this for a living. It means she wants to learn the material. If she's going to get thrown out of ANY class for having a seizure, she could get thrown out of all of them.

I mean, I have taken advanced anatomy classes, but nobody in their right mind wants to pay me to use a scalpel.

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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

People with epilepsy aren't even allowed to drive in many states because of the possibility they'll have a seizure behind the wheel and kill somebody, but they should be allowed to work in a life and death profession? Imagine the person having a seizure while trying to save a life and then that person dies.

I'm sorry, but there are some disabilities that should just prevent you from working certain jobs. Call it discrimination of you want... I call it common sense. I don't think she should be thrown out of the class just because it makes the others uncomfortable though. If anything, THOSE people should be thrown out. If you can't handle the sight of someone having a seizure, how they hell can you handle all the much worse things an EMT sees on a daily basis?
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

We don't know the actual reason she was kicked out. We have the reporter restating what the woman says the faculty told her.
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

I've always wondered why there were not more retarded people performing brain surgery.

also wondered why there are no deaf mutes working as hostage negotiators.

Hopefully this girl will pave the way for these people to be able to do these jobs as well.
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

WTF? grundle's opening sentence has nothing to do with the article?!
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

Originally Posted by foofighters7 View Post
also wondered why there are no deaf mutes working as hostage negotiators.
or negotiators with tourettes
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

My buddy went to bartending school. He didn't want to be a bartender, it just interested him. I get that there's a bit of a difference between bartending school and EMT school, I'm sure there are other people out there attending classes simply to learn something. While I agree that this woman is probably too risky to have the EMT job, it should be up to the people hiring for that job to disqualify her. She should still be able to continue on with the schooling.

Of course, I can already see what would happen if she did pass the EMT course, and then she gets denied the job. "I'm qualified, the school says so. It's an outrage you aren't hiring me."
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

The classes are probably limited, so should somebody who can actually perform the duties of an EMT, be turned away for an in-denial seizure-prone woman who watches too many medical TV shows?
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt View Post
WTF? grundle's opening sentence has nothing to do with the article?!
Is this your first grundle thread?
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

Originally Posted by DVD Polizei View Post
The classes are probably limited, so should somebody who can actually perform the duties of an EMT, be turned away for an in-denial seizure-prone woman who watches too many medical TV shows?
Is the class going to start over when they bring in her replacement? Or, are you saying the school should start pre-screening the students, making sure there isn't anything that could possibly get in the way of completing their tasks?
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Or, are you saying the school should start pre-screening the students, making sure there isn't anything that could possibly get in the way of completing their tasks?
If there are more applicants than class slots, why not?
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People with epilepsy aren't even allowed to drive in many states because of the possibility they'll have a seizure behind the wheel and kill somebody, but they should be allowed to work in a life and death profession? Imagine the person having a seizure while trying to save a life and then that person dies.

I'm sorry, but there are some disabilities that should just prevent you from working certain jobs. Call it discrimination of you want... I call it common sense. I don't think she should be thrown out of the class just because it makes the others uncomfortable though. If anything, THOSE people should be thrown out. If you can't handle the sight of someone having a seizure, how they hell can you handle all the much worse things an EMT sees on a daily basis?
Exactly.
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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

Just how competitive do some of you think Colorado Mountain College is?
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...I don't think she should be thrown out of the class just because it makes the others uncomfortable though. If anything, THOSE people should be thrown out. If you can't handle the sight of someone having a seizure, how they hell can you handle all the much worse things an EMT sees on a daily basis?
Hey, she can be there and flip around out all she wants on the floor...just not in a student capacity. Maybe that would be a good learning tool for EMT students, but currently, she's being a dumbass by thinking she is qualified and having 3 school employees take leave, and causing unreasonable drama for the school itself. And I'd rather have a non-seizure prone person giving CPR on me than this woman. Sorry, I figure if I only have a few minutes to live, I'm going with the MORE QUALIFIED PERSON who can apply compressions at a stable rate for a few minutes at the least.

I'm sure she can do other things, but EMT is not one of them. She can still get into other aspects of medical care.

I was reading in another article that a student who has ADHD, also had a previous complaint at this school. Of course the EMT Seizure Girl came to her cause rather quickly.

If you ask me, CMC better create a secondary Special Needs School, where they can promptly send these students.

Overall, these students are going to more than likely cause more regulations and rules, which will further keep actual qualified people from taking courses they would like to take, in lieu of hard-headed idiots who think they are just like everyone else.

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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

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Taking a class does not mean she wants to do this for a living. It means she wants to learn the material. If she's going to get thrown out of ANY class for having a seizure, she could get thrown out of all of them.

I mean, I have taken advanced anatomy classes, but nobody in their right mind wants to pay me to use a scalpel.

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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

Think about it people. Wouldn't you like for everyone around you to have some education about emergency medical treatment? Even if they weren't doing it for a living, I would like people near me to know what to do if I had a heart attack, or got hit by a car.

I don't see why so many of you think she shouldn't be allowed to take the classes because of her disability.

Even a spaz can be useful in an emergency.
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I don't see why so many of you think she shouldn't be allowed to take the classes because of her disability.
The only disability I see is that she's female. I mean come on, women in the work force? Keep em at home, I say.
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The only disability I see is that she's female. I mean come on, women in the work force? Keep em at home, I say.
That's horrible!






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Re: EMT class says its students shouldn't be exposed to people with medical problems.

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The only disability I see is that she's female. I mean come on, women in the work force? Keep em at home, I say.
I think women should work

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