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Old 05-13-11, 03:51 AM
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sports-sedan for 60-70K?

Friend and I were discussing which sports-sedan we would get if we had the cash.

Which would you choose and why?

Budget would be 60-70K.

I prefer a certified MB CLS63 AMG. He said a certified M5.

What do you think?

Has anyone driven either of these?
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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

...how about some pics and a poll? Not all of us are car know it alls.
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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

http://www.delorean.com/newbuild.asp

I figure, if you're going to blow 60K on a car, why not do it with some style?
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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

brand new CTS-V, and you'd be under budget and faster.
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No way you're getting either of those cars in that price range. 2012 cls 63 base price is 95K. 2012 M5 base price is just under 90K. Both would be well over 100K with options.

An Audi S4 would fit in your price range and is a great car.
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brand new CTS-V, and you'd be under budget and faster.
Those things are garbage. They're just big engines in a tin can.
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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

The new Jaguar XF is bad ass.

I would have to look at that first.

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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

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Those things are garbage. They're just big engines in a tin can.
I don't think so. The interior could use a bit of refining, but the current CTS-V is hardly a piece of shit.

Anyway, I'd probably get an new M 1-series and pocket the ~$15K difference.
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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

E55 amg

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I don't think so. The interior could use a bit of refining, but the current CTS-V is hardly a piece of shit.

Anyway, I'd probably get an new M 1-series and pocket the ~$15K difference.
Most times you get what you pay for. There's a reason why other 550+ HP sedans start at a minimum of 40-50K higher. They're engines with wheels and aren't in the same class as an M5 or CLS63.

I'll retract my garbage statement. A CTS-V is a great way to get behind the wheel of a HP monster for a relatively low price. Just don't expect the refinements that other 500+ HP sedans have.
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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

This will sound stupid, it's a product of where I live (near Ponte Vedra, FL), If you're under 50 you don't need to be rolling in an M5. There's something about them that screams mid-life crisis, especially the convertible.

The CLS63 AMG is a sexy ass car though.

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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

Originally Posted by RichC2 View Post
This will sound stupid, it's a product of where I live (near Ponte Vedra, FL), If you're under 50 you don't need to be rolling in an M5. There's something about them that screams mid-life crisis, especially the convertible.

The CLS63 AMG is a sexy ass car though.
They dont make an M5 convertable.
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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

Not a sedan but a Corvette Z06 just because it's as fast as Ferraris.
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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

another vote for the CTS-V.
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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

CTS-V or M3.
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What is it that you guys like about the CTS-V? Just that it's fast?

Completely disregarding the fact that they don't have near the bells and whistles, I think they're ugly as sin...especially compared to the M Series BMW's, Mercedes, Audis and other top luxury sports sedans. The front of it looks ridiculous.
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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

This one is easy: a 6-series BMW

(But barely, according to US News the average price paid is $69,990-$76,079).
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Obligatory comment about putting some of that $60-$70K towards penis enlargement instead.
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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

Originally Posted by E. Honda View Post
http://www.delorean.com/newbuild.asp

I figure, if you're going to blow 60K on a car, why not do it with some style?
Your kidding, right? I think the OP was asking for a performance sedan and not something that goes 0-60 in 10 sec. Maybe, with the performance option listed on that link with 197 HP it will do it in 8 secs.

The best cars for that price are the M3, S4, or The C- Class AMG and they all have well over 400HP. All will do 0-60 in the 4.5 sec range. The Caddy will blow them away with it's 550 HP but quality wise it sucks.
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Re: sports-sedan for 60-70K?

Bmw m5
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Your kidding, right? I think the OP was asking for a performance sedan and not something that goes 0-60 in 10 sec. Maybe, with the performance option listed on that link with 197 HP it will do it in 8 secs.

The best cars for that price are the M3, S4, or The C- Class AMG and they all have well over 400HP. All will do 0-60 in the 4.5 sec range. The Caddy will blow them away with it's 550 HP but quality wise it sucks.
S4 only has 333 HP and does 0-60 in like 4.9. It's not in the same class as the M3 or C class AMG. The S4 more competes with the regular 3 Series BMW but I think it's way better. I believe Audi is releasing an RS4 for 2012 which should have over 400 HP and compete with those 2 cars.
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They dont make an M5 convertable.
You're right. Confused it with another model, but original comment still applies.

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S4 only has 333 HP and does 0-60 in like 4.9. It's not in the same class as the M3 or C class AMG. The S4 more competes with the regular 3 Series BMW but I think it's way better. I believe Audi is releasing an RS4 for 2012 which should have over 400 HP and compete with those 2 cars.
I was told they're bringing the RS5 over in 2012, the RS4 afaik is pretty much dead in the states at this point.

The M and AMG are still faster, though I have a soft spot for the RS4 and am looking forward to the RS5.

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You're right. Confused it with another model, but original comment still applies.



I was told they're bringing the RS5 over in 2012, the RS4 afaik is pretty much dead in the states at this point.

The M and AMG are still faster, though I have a soft spot for the RS4 and am looking forward to the RS5.
That sucks. I currently drive an S4 and probably wouldn't be in the market for an RS4 anyway, but I know I have zero interest in the RS5--I like 4 doors. I'm happy with the power of the S4 and don't really need any more. Other than a few minor things, I doubt the RS4 would be much different except more HP.

I'm still confused what exactly the S7 is though. Isn't it pretty much the S4's big brother, which is basically the same as an RS4? Maybe they scrapped the RS4 and are more or less just calling it the S7.
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Originally Posted by whoopdido View Post
S4 only has 333 HP and does 0-60 in like 4.9. It's not in the same class as the M3 or C class AMG. The S4 more competes with the regular 3 Series BMW but I think it's way better. I believe Audi is releasing an RS4 for 2012 which should have over 400 HP and compete with those 2 cars.


Your right. I meant the RS4 which was last available in 2008 with 414 HP with performance similar to the M and AMG. I drove one on I-5 in CA in the rain going at 110mph and it felt like I was going slower. No drama whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by whoopdido View Post
What is it that you guys like about the CTS-V? Just that it's fast?

Completely disregarding the fact that they don't have near the bells and whistles, I think they're ugly as sin...especially compared to the M Series BMW's, Mercedes, Audis and other top luxury sports sedans. The front of it looks ridiculous.
I think the new CTS's are great looking, and the CTS-V and CTS-V Coupe just take it up another level. Add in the amazing powerplant, and reasonable price-point, and I think it's a given.

I've owned German cars for over a decade now, but I'm back in a Japanese car after an 18 year hiatus! Repair costs on an M3 or M5 could break your budget in no time flat (a blown tranny in my Porsche = $6K repair bill), whereas the Caddy is still reasonable to maintain.

Another car that no one here will agree with is the Lexus IS-F. Insane power, questionable looks, but an undeniable value (especially on the used car market).

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