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Old 11-19-10, 01:15 PM
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Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

I posted something in the sports forum and it got no responses, and this is technically a different question.

I'm looking at getting either a Trek 3900 Disc hardtail mountain bike (MSRP $549)

or a Specialized Hardrock Disc hardtail mountain bike (MSRP $500)

I have test ridden both models, and they seem comperable. But I can get the Specialized for $440 (last year's model) and the Trek is full MSRP unless I can find a sale.

I can get the Specialized at a shop that is within riding distance of my house. (thus service for it is close by, though for other things; accessories, parts, etc... the shop is pretty light in stock)

For the Trek I would have to go out of town - 20 minutes or so away (albiet to a much better stocked/equipped shop).

As for personal tastes... I like the Trek better asthetically, and I've had Trek in the past.

Any thoughts? Suggestions? Other brands to look at?
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

Either bike would do you well....The Specialized has slightly higher reviews than the Trek on MTBreviews.com. But you can never go wrong with a Trek.

Other brands? Gary Fisher instantly comes to mind.
The Advance is at your pricepoint: http://fisherbikes.com/bike/model/advance-disc
But I like the Wahoo better: http://fisherbikes.com/bike/model/wahoo-disc

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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

I love my Fisher.
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

Mountain bikes are like your cock. Do you want one that's "specialized"? Do you want one that's a "trek"? Or do you want one that's Giant?

I think we all know the answer.
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

When I used to ride, I rode a Specialized Stumpjumper. Excellent bike. Either way they are comparable so unless there is a spec or feature stopping you, get the Specialized.
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

Originally Posted by Brian Shannon View Post
Either way they are all comparable so unless there is a spec or feature stopping you, get the one that looks coolest.
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

Originally Posted by Mabuse View Post
Mountain bikes are like your cock. Do you want one that's "specialized"? Do you want one that's a "trek"? Or do you want one that's Giant?

I think we all know the answer.
Sadly the only Giant mtb at that pricepoint is fugly. I like their road bikes though....
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

I don't know those specific models, but as a general rule (at least at higher pricepoints), if anything Specialized is better than Trek. Given that you can get it cheaper and closer, seems like a no-brainer.

Gary Fisher is basically a Trek, BTW.

In full suspension bikes, Giant has been killing it lately, making great bikes at reasonable prices. But no idea what their $500 hardtails are like.
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

Originally Posted by covenant View Post
Either way they are all comparable so unless there is a spec or feature stopping you, get the one that looks coolest


Sure, because looking cool is much more important than comfort, performance, quality of materials . . .

Thanks for reminding us how most people shop!
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

What's the deal with the "29"s that I'm seeing on the sites? Gary Fisher has a line of Trek 29s, but they are a bit above my price level. Specialized has the Hardrock in a 29... again, a bit above my price level.

Thanks for all the other input.
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

29" wheels. I think they look badass...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/29er_(bicycle)

Advantages
Larger wheels roll over obstacles more easily due to decrease in approach angle
29” wheels are less prone to sinking in soft material such as sand and mud
The longer contact patch increases cornering and straight line traction
The larger wheels tend to raise the allowable height of the bottom bracket, cranks and chain wheels improving ground clearance
29" bikes tend to offer taller riders a more "natural" frame geometry[6]
Most of these claims have yet to be objectively investigated. Small scale, unpublished studies (including one done by Pepperdine University, reportedly at the request of Gary Fisher) exist but both proponents and detractors of 29" wheels are generally unimpressed with their scientific rigor. Long debates over how to conduct a "fair" test of the efficiency of 29" vs 26" mountain bikes have raged online, but no serious efforts have been made to conduct a large-scale, scientific study.

Drawbacks
Increased wheel weight and rotating mass – the spokes, rim, and tire are all larger.
Longer spokes and rim result in a more laterally flexible wheel.
Longer spokes and increased angle between hub flange and rim result in a weaker wheel.
Many types of bicycle tires, rims and forks do not come in 29"-compatible versions, though the expanding popularity of the size is reducing this problem.
Smaller riders (i.e. less than 5'5" tall) may not be able to find a 29" bike with a geometry suitable for them. Numerous examples exist of custom bikes built for very small riders with 29" wheels, but in many cases smaller riders face significant geometry tradeoffs, especially with regard to toe overlap, handlebar height, and standover.

also badass:

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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

Thanks.
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

test ride them and get what you like better. probably pretty similar bikes reliability-wise. personally, i wouldn't get a specialized because i don't care for the company behaviors in the past and they do tend to use some proprietary technologies here and there that might make upgrades and replacements a pain in the future.

in any case, if you buy aluminum buy new so you get full replacement warranty.
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

The Specialized has a slightly better build and is $100 less. Seems like the clear choice to me.
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

I ended up with this one:

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Trek Gary Fisher 29er Marlin. Got it for $549 which is $50 off MSRP and what I would have paid for the 3900 disc.

I test rode both the 3900 disc and the Marlin and definitely liked the feel of the Marlin better. I haven't had a chance to get out there and really ride it yet, but so far I'm happy with my choice. And I found that I can fold my seat down, take the front tire off and get the whole thing in my trunk, which means I can take it up into the mountains and not have to worry about getting a bike rack... unless a friend wants to take a bike too... but the friend I'm talking about has an SUV, so he would drive in that case.

Thanks for all the advice!
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

Nice choice. The Fisher's have a "G2" geometry that is slightly different from the norm, and I really like my Fisher 29er.



As for your original question, it is basically Ford vs. Chevy. All that matters is getting a bike that you will ride. Components can be replaced, and upgraded.
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

you actually going mtn biking?

i have an old klein adept race, i love it, but haven't gone for a while been meaning to go.

looks like a good bike OP!
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

Yeah, great choice!
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

is that a superfly 100? i just bought a Roscoe. I think I got a good price. It seems to be a niche bike that not too many people want.
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

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is that a superfly 100? i just bought a Roscoe. I think I got a good price. It seems to be a niche bike that not too many people want.
Superfly SS
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

non-suspension...downhill pain?
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

Downhills become more about technique than just "point and shoot" with a shock or shocks. In Michigan, what we would consider a downhill would not even be classified elsewhere.

Plus eliminating the shock dropped 2.4 pounds from the bike weight (>10%)
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

does that niner fork maintain the g2 geometry of the fisher? i know the a2c and rake are unique on the g2.
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

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does that niner fork maintain the g2 geometry of the fisher? i know the a2c and rake are unique on the g2.
No, it does not "maintain" the G2.

It is difficult/impossible to but a G2 fork outside of eBay or custom. Bontrager is supposed to be releasing a G2 Switchblade, but it has been expected "any day" for over a year.

The Niner fork speeds up the steering a bit, but not to the point it is twitchy or poor handling.

I rode the Fox G2 shock from April to October, then swapped to the rigid 2 days before a 6 hour race. There was no issues with handling, however my wrists were a bit sore!
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Re: Mountain Bikes - Trek vs. Specialized

I have a Specialized Rockhopper Disc.
It does me very well, so I'd recommend a Specialized bike.

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