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Old 04-13-09, 10:38 AM
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Vacationed in Philadelphia the last five days...my impressions

Never been to Philadelphia before, so we were there all of last week for the World Championships of Irish Dancing (at the Kimmel Centre). I have to say, I loved the city! We stayed across the street at the Doubletree (downtown). I wasn't sure how I'd like it, so was a bit skeptical going in.

It's a very gay-friendly city, I noticed. Nope, I'm not gay, but found it interesting, and in case anyone else has ever thought about going and might be interested in that sort of thing. The food is fantastic. I'd never had a cheese steak before, and loved em! I love that everything was within walking distance (pretty much), including the tourist areas, shopping, historical monuments, Liberty Bell, etc.

We didn't use the local mass transit, as we had three teen girls, my wife, and myself, so we mostly stuck to cabs and walking.

We also spent a day in NYC, since we'd never been there, either. And within 15 minutes of arriving via bus, we saw a purse-snatching (or attempted, anyway) - some kid grabbed a ladies purse, and her husband/brother grabbed the purse as the would-be snatcher was running off. The helper somehow kept ahold of the purse and chased the kid through the streets, swing the purse and trying to catch up to the thief. What a way to start a trip to NY! Rained all day on us there, so the girls whined the whole time, but got to see Times Square, all the shops on 3rd, 4th, and 5th, Central Park, the Fred Perry Store (yes!), the big candy store (forgot the name), and the American Girl store, and many other shops, Statue of Liberty, etc. Was a nice day, but lots of girls whining about the rain. :-(

In any event, Philly is a great town, at least as a 4-5 day trip. Wish we could have stayed longer. Yes, there's a LOT of homeless, and my soft-hearted wife doesn't realize you can go broke just giving your change to the homeless there. I'm sure there's bad points to living there, but my wife wants to move there and live downtown. ;-)
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Why did you go to 4th Avenue? Did you go to the Kmart?
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So - are you a Pat's or Gino's man?!
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I really like Philadelphia. It's probably an interesting destination for someone traveling domestically, especially if you're into history and food (from cheesesteaks to arguably the US's best French restaurant). And for the sixth-most populous city in the US (and fourth-highest GDP), housing is surprisingly affordable.

The list of complaints is just as long, of course (city taxes, politics, crime).
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So - are you a Pat's or Gino's man?!
I had never had an authentic philly cheesesteak until this past new years. I went to the one that didn't have the "order in English" place. I got "wit whiz" and it was badass. I figured I'd have to have the real deal....although Sarconne's break and hoagies are so damn good that I could eat that every day......
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I'll reiterate/summarize what was said in the old cheesesteak debate thread: Pat's, Jim's, and Geno's are not the best steaks in Philly, but they've been around a long time and are about as authentic as it comes without being overly targeted towards tourists.
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I'll reiterate/summarize what was said in the old cheesesteak debate thread: Pat's, Jim's, and Geno's are not the best steaks in Philly, but they've been around a long time and are about as authentic as it comes without being overly targeted towards tourists.
I only meant "authentic" in that sense. I'm aware there are real places as well.
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worst sports fans in america
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worst sports fans in america
I'll doubly concur
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Why did you go to 4th Avenue? Did you go to the Kmart?
Just passed 4th Ave. The Kmart in Philly? The three story one? Yeah, we went on our last day, actually, to go buy another suitcase to bring home extra tourist crap we bought. Was pretty cool!

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So - are you a Pat's or Gino's man?!
I'll probably get beat up for saying this, but didn't go to either. Got mine from (dodging swings): Mama Mia's on Spruce Street. It was close-by. Loved the Cheesesteak, but have no idea how authentic it is. But their pizza and everything else was to die for! GREAT place to have a quick bite.

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I really like Philadelphia. It's probably an interesting destination for someone traveling domestically, especially if you're into history and food (from cheesesteaks to arguably the US's best French restaurant). And for the sixth-most populous city in the US (and fourth-highest GDP), housing is surprisingly affordable.

The list of complaints is just as long, of course (city taxes, politics, crime).
Loved visiting. Living there (downtown) might be a bit worse than my wife thinks, I'm sure, but I have to admit, the town instantly grew on us. My kids loved it!

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I had never had an authentic philly cheesesteak until this past new years. I went to the one that didn't have the "order in English" place. I got "wit whiz" and it was badass. I figured I'd have to have the real deal....although Sarconne's break and hoagies are so damn good that I could eat that every day......
Wish I had done more research on places to eat/see, but with three picky teenage daughters and a wife, not sure I would have gotten my way, anyway. ;-)

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I'll reiterate/summarize what was said in the old cheesesteak debate thread: Pat's, Jim's, and Geno's are not the best steaks in Philly, but they've been around a long time and are about as authentic as it comes without being overly targeted towards tourists.
Like I said above, have no idea how "authentic" it was, but had a cheesesteak from Mama Mia's on Spruce two days in a row, so that shit MUSTA been good! ;-)

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I'll doubly concur
Why bad sports fans? They just give up on their teams? Seemed like a decent sports town. Los Angeles fans HAVE to be up there as some of the worst. Most couldn't care less if their teams win/lose.
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I've heard it's always sunny there. Is that true?
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Falone's has the best cheese steaks in my opinion.
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The list of complaints is just as long, of course (city taxes, politics, crime).
Yeah, Philly is really a shithole, crime-wise. Wasn't someone stabbed to death in Center City just a few blocks from Independence Hall recently?
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JImmy Kimmel has a centre named after him?
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Why bad sports fans? They just give up on their teams? Seemed like a decent sports town. Los Angeles fans HAVE to be up there as some of the worst. Most couldn't care less if their teams win/lose.
Philly's sports' fans are uncivilized thugs.

L.A.'s sports' fans are intelligently discriminating.
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Wasn't someone stabbed to death in Center City just a few blocks from Independence Hall recently?
This is actually quite shocking and surprising, and as such I don't believe it. Only one person?
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Originally Posted by Jacoby Ellsbury View Post
worst sports fans in america
unintelligent observation. Also really boring and lazy.
I guess no one ever boos in other cities.

also despite only 1 world championship in the 28 years,
with the exception of the Sixers every team plays to nearly full capacity for every game.

Yeah terrible fans.

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I'll doubly concur
doubly wrong.

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Yeah, Philly is really a shithole, crime-wise. Wasn't someone stabbed to death in Center City just a few blocks from Independence Hall recently?
No one ever gets murdered in any other city.

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Philly's sports' fans are uncivilized thugs.

L.A.'s sports' fans are intelligently discriminating.
Have you ever been to a game in any other city, no one ever gets beat up or has a fight in any other stadiums that aren't philadelphia?
Wasn't someone murdered at a ballgame last week not in Phiily.

Nice going as it only took a few posts for people to come in and do nothing but
provide idiotic comments in a topic started by someone saying something nice
about his visit to the city were he mentioned nothing about sports and
therefore the "worst sports fans in america" was unwarranted


Not a good day to be insulting Philadelphia sports people.

There will be more people (fans) showing up for Harry Kalas Funeral then
what would show up for a championship parade in some cities.

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This is actually quite shocking and surprising, and as such I don't believe it. Only one person?
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And Philly sports' fans are as touchy as hell.

(Say something bad about them and they're ready to throw down on you. )
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No one ever gets murdered in any other city.
Of course, murders happen everywhere. My point was simply that a city that can't effectively police a few blocks around a huge tourist and historical attraction is, effectively, either broken or on the verge of being broken.
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And Philly sports' fans are as touchy as hell.

(Say something bad about them and they're ready to throw down on you. )
hey what do you mean by that!!?

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just kidding
It does get a bit tiring, since bad things don't just happen in Philly


I guess I'll never understand why it has become so typical to
insult Philadelphia.
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I've been only once to Philly and really liked it. It was in 2001 and it looked safe, at least the touristy places, for a big city.
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Of course, murders happen everywhere. My point was simply that a city that can't effectively police a few blocks around a huge tourist and historical attraction is, effectively, either broken or on the verge of being broken.
http://www.morganquitno.com/cit05pop.htm#CITIES

(See Section Two.)

I lived in Philadephia for 22 years and I was kind of happy to get out there. But some things I really liked, especially the people.
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Originally Posted by whotony View Post
hey what do you mean by that!!?

Spoiler:


just kidding
It does get a bit tiring, since bad things don't just happen in Philly


I guess I'll never understand why it has become so typical to
insult Philadelphia.
For some reason, out of Philly, a lot of people talk about Philadelphia fans being the worst. Websites of course, but also in newspapers and tv, in the East Coast and the West Coast.

http://www.bleacherbloggers.com/post...st-sports-fans

3.) Philadelphia Eagles fans: The only place where simultaneous love-hate for a professional team runs stronger and more volatile than in New York is Philadelphia. Listening to sports talk radio in Philadelphia is like watching an angry mob torching the stadium. Perhaps being starved of any professional championship in the city for the past 24 years has driven them over the edge. Of course, the incident of fans throwing snowballs and booing on Santa Claus deserves mention here, also, as does the court that was built into Veterans Stadium to process violent and unruly fans on the spot. When your stadium needs a judge, that's a bad sign. This puts Eagles fans squarely at No. 3.
That Santa incident is the one mentioned all the time when they are talking about philly's fans.
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That Santa thing happened over 40 years ago and isn't relevant to anything now.

And what is the definition of worse fans in that blog, I can't figure it out.

Eagles fans are as passionate towards the team as anyone and aren't any different then Raiders fans.

The court in the stadium was 10 years ago and was in the Vet not the new stadium.

How can any florida team not be seen as worst fan ever.
How many people show up for Marllin games 3000?

Phila fans are far from the worse.
They want results and when they don't get them they let you know.
Unlike cities like chicago or st. louis were they don't care if you win or lose.

Fans in those cities are stepford fans, cheer and cheer
no matter what, robots.

Oh well whatever, I gues there's no point to any of this.
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