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Old 12-25-08, 05:04 PM
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With Santas Like These...

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COVINA, Calif. A man dressed as Santa who had been having marital problems opened fire at a Christmas party, leaving more than three people dead in a home that then caught fire, authorities said.

Hours later, police found the body of the suspect, Bruce Jeffrey Pardo, 45, at the home of his brother early Thursday in the Sylmar area of Los Angeles. Police said he killed himself but would not say how.

"He was going through some type of marital problems, and we believe that this residence is a relative's residence," Lt. Pat Buchanan said of the house that burned.

Police initally said three people were dead in the shootings and fire late Wednesday. Ed Winter of the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office said Thursday that investigators sifting through the ashes of the house found "several" more bodies, but would not say how many.

The bodies were too badly burned to immediately determine whether they died in the shootings or the fire, Winter said. "We have multiple bodies inside," Winter said. "They're extremely charred and burned."

Spray of bullets
The gunman arrived at the party in Covina late Wednesday and immediately opened fire with a handgun, Buchanan said. Witnesses told police that the man took off the Santa suit and left the scene of the burning house in street clothes.

Winter said the search through the destroyed home would take at least until the end of the day.

Jan Gregory, a neighbor, said about 25 people were at the party when the gunshots rang out and people started running by the house.

She said she saw a teenage boy run from the house screaming, "They shot my family."

Buchanan says three other people were injured. A woman in her 20s and an 8-year-old girl had gunshot wounds that were not life-threatening, and a third person had a broken ankle.

Police received several 911 calls with reports of shots fired at 11:30 p.m. Wednesday night, and were still hearing gunshots after they arrived and found the house in flames, Buchanan said.

Home destroyed
At first, firefighters were held back by police because shots were still being fired, though it may have been ammunition burning in the blaze, fire Captain Mike Brown said.

Firefighters had extinguished the blaze by about 1:30 a.m. Thursday, fire Captain Mike Brown said.

The two-story home on a cul-de-sac was destroyed in Covina, a quiet suburb 25 miles east of Los Angeles.

"This neighborhood is really quiet," said Jeffrey Barrientos, who lives half a block from the house that burned. Barrientos said the neighborhood's residents were mostly retirees and elderly people.

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Ok, no Christmas Parties for me this year. Gonna have to ask everyone if they have marital problems before they cross my thresshold or before I go over to their house.
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Aw man, this is sad as can be.


[Back in Otter mode]

NOT FLORIDA!
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Tis the season..........
Must be hard when your an 8 year old and a dude dressed as Santa ends up shooting you. That would probably seriously scra that kid for life.
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What a fuckwad. Seriously.
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On the news tonight they said he started shooting and then used a home-made flamethrower which started the fire. Six people dead because a of a whackjob.
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...and three people are still missing. Including the shooters ex-wife.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081225/D95A1DSG0.html
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i was going to post this, but it's very sad indeed
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They must have been naughty.
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In-laws roasting on an open fire.......
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Those fuckers at that party had it coming.
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...suspect, Bruce Jeffrey Pardo, 45, at the home of his brother early Thursday in the Sylmar area of Los Angeles. Police said he killed himself but would not say how.
Of course he didn't... He's dead...

Writers are teh suck.

As for the situation, that's extremely horrific.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081226/...santa_shooting

COVINA, Calif. A ninth body was found Friday morning at the charred site of a Christmas Eve massacre where a recently divorced man dressed as Santa shot indiscriminately at partygoers and destroyed his former in-laws' house with a homemade blowtorch.

The attacker, Bruce Pardo, reached a Dec. 18 settlement with his ex-wife, who along with her parents was believed to be among the dead. His lawyer and a fellow church usher were among those who said they had never seen anything to indicate he was capable of such a brutal crime.

Pardo's attorney, Stanley Silver, said his client seemed cheerful when he left a message two days before the shooting and was trying to pay $10,000 to finalize the divorce proceedings.

"All of my dealings with him were always pleasant and cheerful," Silver said. "I'd never encountered him when he was ... angry or unpleasant at all."

Pardo left the scene of the killings and was found dead Thursday, of a single bullet to the head, at his brother's house.

The body of his ninth victim was found Friday morning when investigators resumed searching what was left of the two-story home on a cul-de-sac in Covina, 25 miles east of Los Angeles.

Eight bodies were recovered Thursday from the destroyed house; it was not yet known where the gunfire or the flames killed them. None of the dead or missing has been identified.

The bloodbath began about 11:30 p.m. Wednesday when an 8-year-old girl attending a Christmas Eve party answered a knock at the door. A man dressed as Santa and carrying what appeared to a present pulled out a handgun and shot her in the face, then began shooting indiscriminately as partygoers tried to flee.

The gift-wrapped box Pardo was carrying actually contained a pressurized homemade device he used to spray a liquid that quickly sent the house up in flames. Police said Pardo had recently worked in the aerospace industry.

Pardo, 45, had no criminal record and no history of violence, according to police, but he was angry following last week's settlement of his divorce after a short marriage.

A court summary of the divorce case shows that Sylvia Pardo filed for a dissolution of marriage on March 24, 2008. The summary indicates she and Bruce Pardo reached a settlement on Dec. 18 and were separated after about two years of marriage.

Court documents show Sylvia Pardo got the couple's dog, the wedding ring and $10,000 in the settlement agreement, while he got the house. In June, the court ordered Bruce Pardo to pay $1,785 a month in spousal support and put him on a payment plan of $450 a month for $3,570 that was unpaid.

Pardo's attorney said the man had trouble making the payments after he lost his job in July, but spousal support was waived in the settlement signed earlier this month.

Investigators seeking further information about Pardo's motives have begun searching his home in the suburban Los Angeles community of Montrose.

Christmas lights decorated the roof of Pardo's home and plastic nutcracker soldiers and striped candy canes poked out of the neatly trimmed lawn. A black Cadillac Escalade and a white Hummer were parked in the driveway.

Neighbors frequently saw Pardo working on his lawn and walking his dog, a big, brown Akita. Pardo served regularly as an usher at evening Mass at Holy Redeemer Catholic Church in Montrose, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Jan Detanna, the head usher at the church, was stunned when told about the violence.

"I'm just this is shocking," Detanna told the Times. "He was the nicest guy you could imagine. Always a pleasure to talk to, always a big smile."

Two people wounded in the attack are expected to recover: the 8-year-old who was shot and a 16-year-old girl shot in the back. A 20-year-old woman broke her ankle when jumping from a second-story window and was recovering.

David Salgado, a neighbor, said he saw the 8-year-old victim being escorted to an ambulance by four SWAT team members as flames up to 40 feet high consumed the house.

"It was really ugly," Salgado said.

Another neighbor, Jan Gregory, said she saw a teenage boy flee the home, screaming, "`They shot my family.'"

When the fire was extinguished early Thursday, officers found three charred bodies in the living room area.

"They were met with a scene that was just indescribable," police Chief Kim Raney said. Investigators found five more bodies amid the ashes later in the day. Coroner's Lt. Larry Dietz said the ninth body was found Friday morning.

Following the shootings, Pardo quickly got out of the Santa suit and drove off, witnesses told police. He went to his brother's home about 25 miles away in the Sylmar area of Los Angeles. No one was home, so Pardo let himself in, police said.

Police were called to the home early Thursday, and officers found Pardo dead. Two handguns were found at the scene, and two more were discovered in the wreckage of his former in-laws' house.

A car that Pardo apparently parked near his brother's home exploded Thursday evening and more ammunition was found in it, Los Angeles police Sgt. Francisco Wheeling said. She had no immediate details on what set off the explosion. No one was hurt.
I'm glad I'm an atheist who is cranky, mean, sarcastic and can be an asshole when the situation arises. It's these perpetually nice bastards who go off the deep end that worry me.
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I'm glad I'm an atheist who is cranky, mean, sarcastic and can be an asshole when the situation arises. It's these perpetually nice bastards who go off the deep end that worry me.
No shit. Even going way back, Charles Whitman was an Eagle Scout, and far too many of these bastards are these smiling, good-natured, neighborly, repressed, angry white men. And this guy went to church? Regularly? I'm shocked!

But fuck this guy, this asshole who dressed up as Santa, rang a doorbell, and shot an eight-year-old girl in the face who answered the door on Christmas Eve. At least he killed himself.
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Since this happened here in SCAL it has been all over the news and I've seen lots of interviews with neighbors saying Bruce Pardo was a really nice guy who helped everyone, attending church regularly, and always had a smile.

Divorce does strange things to people. Emotions run very high and the legal system is extremely unfair to men. Personally I'm surprised we don't see more of this type of thing. Fortunately most people are level-headed enough to deal with it and move on but obviously he was in a blind rage. I can't imagine someone being able to justify this action no matter what's happened to them - so I think it's just outright rage. I'm glad he killed himself but would much have preferred he just jumped off a cliff somewhere.

I just saw this update:

COVINA, Calif. (AP) - A man who showed up dressed as Santa Claus at his ex-wife's parents' Christmas Eve party and killed at least eight people reached a divorce settlement with her days earlier.

Court documents show that Bruce and Sylvia Pardo finalized their divorce Dec. 18 after about two years of marriage. She got $10,000, their dog and her wedding ring in the settlement. He kept the house.

Bruce Pardo's attorney, Stanley Silver, says his client was still trying to pay the $10,000 as recently as Tuesday.

He says his client also fell behind on spousal support payments after he lost his job in July.
Doesn't sound unreasonable to me.. She gets $10k, a dog, and a ring and he keeps the house? If there's equity in the house it would seem he got off easily enough. Probably a mix between the divorce and losing his job.

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the plot thickens...


Sources close to the family say Bruce Jeffrey Pardo, who allegedly opened fire and killed nine people on Christmas Eve, had tried to keep secret from his new wife a child he had fathered years ago.
By Tami Abdollah and Ari B. Bloomekatz
12:05 PM PST, December 26, 2008
The gunman dressed in a Santa Claus suit who opened fire at a Christmas Eve party in Covina, killing nine holiday revelers, had kept secret from his wife a child that he had fathered years ago, sources close to the family said today.

Investigators said Bruce Jeffrey Pardo, 45, had been divorced earlier this year, and they believe the divorce was one of the main factors that drove him to go to the home of his former in-laws on Christmas Eve with the gun and explosives.

But one incident that led to that divorce was a long-held detail of his past that Pardo hid from his wife.

About nine years ago, he and a girlfriend had a child. As a 1-year-old, the boy fell into a pool, nearly drowning. As a result, the child was left physically handicapped. Although Pardo did not support his son financially, he claimed the boy as a dependent for seven years on his tax returns.

When Pardo's wife found out about it from a family member, she demanded he stop claiming his son as a dependent. The situation helped lead to the divorce, sources close to the family said.


Pardo and his ex-wife, Sylvia, met in 2004 through a colleague of Pardo's. Sources today said the 17-year-old son of that colleague died in the Christmas Eve shooting.

Pardo wooed Sylvia, and the two married in January 2006. Around that time, they moved into a home in Montrose to start their new life together with Sylvia's three children from a previous marriage and an Akita.

Their union lasted only two years. Sylvia moved out in January and were divorced the next month after she cited irreconcilable differences.

Other details about Bruce Pardo also emerged today. He was an engineer at Northrop Grumman Corp. who had been fired eight months ago, and he had claimed on his company profile that he had a master's degree from USC. But sources close to the investigation said that while he had been enrolled there, he never received the degree.

Investigators said the shooting likely had been planned over a period of several months.

Shortly before 11:30 p.m. Wednesday, Pardo, dressed as Santa Claus, approached the front door of his ex-wife's parents' home with a large, wrapped package. Inside the two-story home at the end of a quiet cul-de-sac, his ex-wife, her parents and about two dozen others were enjoying their annual holiday party.

An 8-year-old girl ran to answer his knock. When the door swung open, Pardo shot her in the face with a semiautomatic handgun, stepped into the house and opened fire on the revelers. Amid the chaos, he doused the house with a flammable liquid contained in the package -- a pressurized fuel tank, about 2 1/2 feet tall.

Partygoers fled in panic as the house on Knollcrest Drive went up in flames. They ran to neighbors' homes and frantically called 911. A young woman, according to a neighbor, leaped out of a second-floor window, breaking her ankle.

The 8-year-old girl and a 16-year-old girl who was shot in the back survived and were transported to local hospitals with non-life-threatening injuries, officials said.

The 16-year old is the daughter of Pardo's ex-wife and has been discharged from Los Angeles County-USC Medical Center. The 8-year-old, who is also a relative, was in stable condition today in the hospital's intensive care unit, said County-USC spokeswoman Adelaida De La Cerda.

"She's alert, she's doing fine. They're doing whatever they can so she's not more traumatized than she is already," De La Cerda said. A social worker has been called to help the girl, who has been visited by her mother.

The shooting rampage was thought to be the worst single killing spree in the county this year. Overall, homicides have remained at relatively low levels compared to previous years. The investigation, which began quickly and continued into Christmas Day, led to two other Southern California homes: Pardo's and his brother's, where Pardo was found dead.

It revealed a flammable device like the one Pardo took into the Covina home -- police said they'd never seen anything like it -- and incredulous reactions from people who knew Pardo as a reliable church usher and good, but quiet, neighbor.

Authorities still have not identified all the victims, although his former wife and her parents are thought to have been killed.

As flames engulfed the Covina house on Christmas Eve and into Christmas morning, police kept firefighters at bay, believing the gunman might still be in the area. About 80 firefighters battled the blaze for an hour and a half before extinguishing it, said Los Angeles County Fire Capt. Mike Brown. The second floor of the house fell to the ground. Palm trees swayed eerily in the smoke.

Pardo had left the scene quickly, driving to his brother's house about 40 miles away in Sylmar. Shortly before 3:30 a.m., the brother summoned Los Angeles police, saying he had come home to find Pardo dead with a gunshot wound to the head.

When arriving officers ran Pardo's name through a law-enforcement database, they were alerted that he was wanted by Covina police. By 9 a.m., a pair of Covina detectives had arrived at Pardo's tan stucco house in Montrose and cordoned it off with tape. A wreath was hung on the front door and candy canes adorned the fence. An SUV and a military-style Hummer were parked in the driveway.

At midafternoon Thursday, authorities approached the house with guns drawn, shouting, "We're police! We have a search warrant!" When no one responded, they used a battering ram to get in.

More than two hours later, officers carried away four shotguns, a handgun, wrapping paper and a fuel tank like the one Pardo used in the attack. A label on the red tank read, "WeFuelFun.com," the website of a company that specializes in fueling devices for all-terrain vehicles.

Covina Police Lt. Pat Buchanan, a 30-year police veteran, said the tank Pardo used in the attack was "nothing that we or the arson team had ever seen."

Recently, Pardo had been living in the Montrose home alone, said Det. Antonio Zavala. Buchanan said he "was apparently going through a bad time in his marriage."

Neighbors said Pardo had lived in the house with his wife, Sylvia, 43, and her three children until she and the children moved out. . The family was often seen walking their dog in the neighborhood.

Pardo, several neighbors said, was a quiet, unassuming man who enjoyed tending his garden and regularly ushered at the evening Sunday Mass at Holy Redeemer.

"Bruce?" said an incredulous Jan Detanna, the head usher at the church, when told about the attack by a reporter on the phone Thursday. "I'm just -- this is shocking. He was the nicest guy you could imagine. Always a pleasure to talk to, always a big smile."

Bong Garcia, Pardo's next-door neighbor, said he last saw Pardo between 9 and 10 p.m. Christmas Eve. Pardo, who was dressed in regular clothes, said he was on his way to a party.

Pardo's former wife and her parents, Joseph Ortega, 80, and Alicia Ortega, 70, are believed to be among the dead. Authorities said Thursday afternoon that the bodies found in the house were so badly burned that dental records would be needed to identify them. The Ortegas lived in a bucolic neighborhood -- their street lined with large homes with swimming pools, valued upward of half a million dollars.

Tom Minter, 78, who lives a few doors down from the Ortegas' house, was washing dishes when he heard a loud bang. Soon after, police SWAT officers rushed a man and two women who had been at the party into his home, sat them down in the hallway and turned off all lights in the house, Minter said. Both women were crying and the man was talking into his cellphone, saying 'They're all dead, he shot them all,'" Minter recalled.

Gazing at the scene of destruction on Christmas morning, Frank Castillo, 46, stood at the yellow police tape barrier trying unsuccessfully to obtain information about relatives he said had been at the party. "I want to make sure [they] are OK," he said, choking back tears.

The bizarre case continued to unfold into Thursday night. Bright lights brought in by police illuminated the crime scene in Covina. In searching the rental car in Sylmar, the L.A. County sheriff's bomb squad found a suspicious object. As they attempted to render the object safe, the car erupted in flames, said Los Angeles Police Sgt. James Bender.

Later, police evacuated houses close to Pardo's in Montrose, concerned that he might have left behind bombs.

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Divorce does strange things to people. Emotions run very high and the legal system is extremely unfair to men. Personally I'm surprised we don't see more of this type of thing. Fortunately most people are level-headed enough to deal with it and move on but obviously he was in a blind rage. I can't imagine someone being able to justify this action no matter what's happened to them - so I think it's just outright rage. I'm glad he killed himself but would much have preferred he just jumped off a cliff somewhere.
There's blind rage and then there's calculated rage. This dude is definitely in the the latter category. Dressing up like Santa and then shooting at kids. Bringing a tank of flammable liquid to burn down a house. He didn't just grab a gun and drive over to this house. He planned quite an elaborate scheme to send some sort of message.

This story makes me wonder why he got married in the first place. He was middle-aged and should have a certain amount of wisdom by that time about marriages and their failure rates. I also wonder why his wife divorced him.

Yes, it sounds like he lost just about everything he had in this world and that can drive a person over the brink. Maybe they should have let him keep the dog.

Edit--Thanks, D.Pham00, for the update. I figured there would have to be more to this story than just a nice, church-going guy inexplicably cracks up.

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There's blind rage and then there's calculated rage. This dude is definitely in the the latter category. Dressing up like Santa and then shooting at kids. Bringing a tank of flammable liquid to burn down a house. He didn't just grab a gun and drive over to this house. He planned quite an elaborate scheme to send some sort of message.

This story makes me wonder why he got married in the first place. He was middle-aged and should have a certain amount of wisdom by that time about marriages and their failure rates. I also wonder why his wife divorced him.
maybe the secret child from a previous relationship had something to do with it.
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maybe the secret child from a previous relationship had something to do with it.
Yeah, I just read your update.

About nine years ago, he and a girlfriend had a child. As a 1-year-old, the boy fell into a pool, nearly drowning. As a result, the child was left physically handicapped. Although Pardo did not support his son financially, he claimed the boy as a dependent for seven years on his tax returns.

When Pardo's wife found out about it from a family member, she demanded he stop claiming his son as a dependent. The situation helped lead to the divorce, sources close to the family said.
That's sounds like a petty thing to get divorced over, but that's just me. So, the guy cheated on his taxes? The guy had a secret love child from his past? Maybe there's still more to the story.
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The dude was a complete scumbag. Not paying child support yet claiming the child as a dependent? For seven years? Also it's suspected he planned this attack for months.

Obviously his life was a self-created hell, culminating in some weak-ass killing spree and the ultimate wuss-out, suicide.

I'd love to give him a few jabs with a pitchfork in hell ...
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Yeah, I just read your update.



That's sounds like a petty thing to get divorced over, but that's just me. So, the guy cheated on his taxes? The guy had a secret love child from his past? Maybe there's still more to the story.
i think it'd be a big deal to hide that you had a child from a previous relationship from your current wife. Not to mention, claiming said child on tax return. Tax fraud might not be that high on reasons for divorce, but it also shows that he's not a responsible father, because he never supported his son financially. and also, he lied about having a master's degree.

i mean, things pile up here, and if someone can't be trusted to say the truth in these matters, then i wouldn't have faith in them saying the truth in other matters as well.
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i think it'd be a big deal to hide that you had a child from a previous relationship from your current wife. Not to mention, claiming said child on tax return. Tax fraud might not be that high on reasons for divorce, but it also shows that he's not a responsible father, because he never supported his son financially. and also, he lied about having a master's degree.

i mean, things pile up here, and if someone can't be trusted to say the truth in these matters, then i wouldn't have faith in them saying the truth in other matters as well.
I'm certainly not defending this guy's actions or trying to explain them away...just trying to understand it. I agree you can't trust someone who hides his past, but maybe he just chose not to reveal the bad aspects of his life in hopes that he could get a "fresh start" with his new wife. I'd like to hear what the mother of his son has to say. Did she seek child support? Did she want this guy in her son's life? (Maybe this guy was somehow responsible for the son's accident and the mother didn't want him around anymore.)

(Latest news--the murderer had $17,000 taped to his leg when he went to the Christmas party and had bought a plane ticket to Canada...no restraining order from his ex-wife...he had set up some explosive devices that could be triggered to go off in his car and Santa suit (?)...)

For sure, he was one twisted guy. My question is--was he always twisted or did he evolve into this twisted mess of a human? And why did he come to be this way? On the local news they keep having these brief little interviews with his ex-girlfriend of four years who says he was a nice guy and she couldn't dream he would do something like this. She also says that he received a masters from CSUN and was an active and good member in his church.
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^to add to it:

COVINA, Calif. – Law enforcement officials in Southern California say the gunman who killed nine people in a Christmas Eve bloodbath at his ex-in-laws' Covina home intended to flee to Canada but was severely burned before he killed himself.

Police said Friday that after the shooting, 45-year-old Bruce Jeffrey Pardo used a homemade device to spray racing fuel around the home and that the vapor was ignited by a pilot light or candle. He suffered third-degree burns on both arms when it exploded.

Authorities say Pardo's Santa suit actually melted onto his body before he fled.


After Pardo shot himself to death at his brother's home, authorities found $17,000 on him and a plane ticket for a flight from Los Angeles to Canada.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081226/...santa_shooting

and if he didn't want it found out, why the hell did he claim the son on the income tax? and starting new is one thing, but this is a pretty damn big thing to leave out.

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lol @ the plane ticket to Canada instead of Mexico
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lol @ the plane ticket to Canada instead of Mexico
Maybe he was afraid of running into some of the distant relatives of the people he had just slaughtered.

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