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Old 10-11-08, 02:52 PM
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So is your city going to have enough salt for the winter?

Most of us will see our first snowfall here in the next month or so and I am already hearing on the news that city budgets don't have enough money for salt to get them through a winter. (As Jay Leno said the other day on the Tonight Show...snow? Who would have seen that coming!)

It seems the past couple years it's been slim picking around here...side streets will go for days...sometimes weeks, before any salt or plow truck will touch it, creating quite hazardous conditions. I can't imagine it even getting worse in Kansas City. I haven't heard how my city is preparing for the coming winter, how much salt they have/plan to get, but this isn't exactly one of the wealthiest cities in the nation.
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I think we'll be ok.
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salt? i think my city will get it's usual amount of salt this year, which is probably somewhere around zero.
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We don't use salt on the roads here. The environment is too fragile to handle it.
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We don't get snow, so we probally have a warehouse full of salt somewhere that FEMA delivered after Gustav. It sould be found in about 3 years.
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We don't use salt on the roads here. The environment is too fragile to handle it.
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59....OUCH!

I think that is a bit low, typically it is 62-64 at night during the winter.
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You laugh, but it's true! If we used salt on the roads, all the beautification would die!
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Old 10-11-08, 04:45 PM
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It hasn't snowed where I live since 1989 so help an ignorant person out...salt on roads?
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The salt attracts wildlife, which then eats the salt and snow, thus clearing the roads.
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They use that magnesium Chloride stuff that sticks to your windshield like glue around here. It saves on salt but the cost of wiper fluid skyrockets!


I thought they stopped using salt because it corroded the metal on vehicles.
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The salt attracts wildlife, which then eats the salt and snow, thus clearing the roads.
And providing food for the needy!
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Magnesium chloride is crazy expensive and ruins machinery. Rusts it out quick. I think there must have been some lobbying to get it to be used. We have a lot of natural red rock (cinder) around here so that is what we use. Very cheap and very effective.

But recently there has been some environmental movement to keep us from using red rock because it isn't good for the environment. I shit you not.
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There is never enough
Wow. Just wow.
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Back OT, up here in Fairbanks, winter laughs at your puny salt (salt is no longer effective at temperatures below -5F). In fact, salt is banned from Fairbanks roads from what I gather.
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59....OUCH!

I think that is a bit low, typically it is 62-64 at night during the winter.



speaking of rain, you guys get way too much. i think in 06-07, LA area got something like 3-4 inches that season.
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Old 10-11-08, 06:36 PM
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Old 10-11-08, 06:41 PM
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They use that magnesium Chloride stuff that sticks to your windshield like glue around here. It saves on salt but the cost of wiper fluid skyrockets!


I thought they stopped using salt because it corroded the metal on vehicles.

Wait till you see what that crap does to your brake lines.
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Old 10-11-08, 07:08 PM
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I'm not sure what we use here in VA. I assume it's salt. We normally don't have any issue with plows when it snows. It's not uncommon to hear one go by in the middle of the night when it snows. Then again when you're servicing 7,000 people it doesn't take THAT long.
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Old 10-11-08, 07:16 PM
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What is this "snow" that you speak of?
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Old 10-11-08, 07:18 PM
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I'm fairly confident Chicago won't run out as they never have. This piddly worthless suburb to the north called Evanston however is a joke and ran out early last year. Not only that they can't plow a damn thing.
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Old 10-11-08, 08:27 PM
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I'm not sure where we will be able to find salt here in Utah.
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Old 10-11-08, 09:23 PM
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Salt prices have gone nuts even faster than oil did this summer.

I work for a town and when yours is saying the budgets can't handle it, they aren't kidding this year. Last year we paid $40 a ton. This year the only place we even found any available was $135 a ton.

The companies are saying there are shortages or some shit like that. Even though most of Michigan and Ohio are sitting on top of salt. The Illinois Atty General is supposed to looking into price gouging.
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Old 10-11-08, 09:31 PM
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When I lived in the UP, they used sand. It is cheaper, and works fine. Plus much of it can be cleaned up after the thaw and re-used.

Around here they seem to only use salt, and always run out. Typically after the "last" big storm, they dump a ton of salt to use the last of it, then it snow again in a week, and there is no salt.
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