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Old 02-26-08, 05:14 PM
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puppy housebreaking problems

my friend and neighbor got a corgi puppy I mentioned in another thread. He's about 8 months now and he's still having a hard time house training. My friend is really getting frustrated and might give up the dog. The dog poops in his crate or in the house it seems out of spite.

Whenever he is scolded or if you busy and cannot play with him - he'll poop. If he is put in his crate during the day - he'll poop in it. He is walked often and is only crated during the time no one is home. He will go outside and poop and if put in the crate will still poop in it. If he had thumbs i think he would throw it.
Any ideas? The crate is already pretty small (its a cat carrier) he just can't be trusted to be left alone for any period of time.

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Old 02-26-08, 05:20 PM
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cut down on the food he's fed

I got nothing else
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Old 02-26-08, 05:27 PM
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A cat carrier? Are you kidding? That's too small to use as a crate. You're supposed to keep him from getting to the furniture, not preparing him to be veal.
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Old 02-26-08, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Numanoid
A cat carrier? Are you kidding? That's too small to use as a crate. You're supposed to keep him from getting to the furniture, not preparing him to be veal.
he's only 11 pounds - all other crates were too big.

going by recommended dosage by vet - don't want to starve him.

btw different crate sizes were tried - the last one and smallest one is the only one he would not poop multiple times in. The bigger ones it was just ugh too nasty.

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- don't want to starve him.
We can't help if you don't want help. I also vote for starving him.
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I don't think he's doing it out of spite, he's doing it out of fear.
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I don't think he's doing it out of spite, he's doing it out of fear.
There's only one way to be sure......


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I've got nothing for you...our Jack Russell is 8 and she will still poop in her cage when she's pissed at us for leaving for her. She actually does a lot of bad stuff out of spite, we've just learned to deal with it. And her cage is 5x10 foot in the garage, so it's not like she's cramped for space.
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Old 02-27-08, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by squidget
my friend and neighbor got a corgi puppy I mentioned in another thread. He's about 8 months now and he's still having a hard time house training. My friend is really getting frustrated and might give up the dog. The dog poops in his crate or in the house it seems out of spite.

Whenever he is scolded or if you busy and cannot play with him - he'll poop. If he is put in his crate during the day - he'll poop in it. He is walked often and is only crated during the time no one is home. He will go outside and poop and if put in the crate will still poop in it. If he had thumbs i think he would throw it.
Any ideas? The crate is already pretty small (its a cat carrier) he just can't be trusted to be left alone for any period of time.
I'll just add a few thoughts, first it sounds like the dog is picking up on his owners frustration and that is adding to the problem.

Dogs need a routine. If the crate is the correct size the dog should not be going inside of it. How many times a day is the dog fed? Is the dog let out soon after eating?

Whenever he is scolded or if you busy and cannot play with him - he'll poop.
This is a fear/submissive response. If the dog is always afraid of the owner then the problem is going to be very hard to solve.

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If he's pooping IN his crate, then you need professional help. Get a trainer.
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Old 02-27-08, 08:25 AM
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i have a mini dachschund and i crated him until 8 months... then i just cut off an area for him...


get wee wee pads for the dogs... then train.. if that doesnt work... get prof help
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shove his face in it
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Old 02-27-08, 11:33 AM
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If he's pooping IN his crate, then you need professional help. Get a trainer.

Most animal people need professional help. I'd recommend a phychologist, though.
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Old 02-27-08, 12:02 PM
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Most animal people need professional help. I'd recommend a phychologist, though.
I don't see how the scientific study of algae would help the dog
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My own field of study and I can't even spell it. No wonder they kicked me out of grad school.
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Old 02-27-08, 01:03 PM
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i say take a dump in his crate out of spite... see how he likes it.
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