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Teacher gets 6 years for sex with students

Old 02-19-08, 02:34 PM
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Teacher gets 6 years for sex with students

Today, Allenna Ward, 24, was indicted on five counts of criminal sexual conduct with a minor and six counts of lewd acts on a minor in a bi-racial boy toy sex scandal in Laurens County, South Carolina.

Ward’s alleged boy toys, all black, ranged in age from 14 to 15 year-old, some of whom were students at Bell Street Middle School in Clinton, where Ward taught until she was fired on February, 28.



Here is a more recent picture - I don't like the little girl / short hair / plain jane look (but a lot of guys here do)




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That gal should have no problems getting "dates" in prison.
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They should've at least bought her dinner first.
Logan's Steakhouse is right up the street.
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Why is the race being singled out?
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Are we sure this isn't just the plot synopsis for a porn movie called Danger-ass Minds?
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Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
Why is the race being singled out?

I can understand the bolding of the bi-racial student.
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Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
Why is the race being singled out?
OP mentioned it three times (once in thread title, twice in bold), but I didn't see it even mentioned once in the AP link.
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Old 02-19-08, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave7393
OP mentioned it three times (once in thread title, twice in bold), but I didn't see it even mentioned once in the AP link.

The AP link is boring: but Google her name and things like

This

come up.
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Old 02-19-08, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CPA-ESQ.
The AP link is boring: but Google her name and things like

This

come up.
That article is dated March 15, 2007. But apparently she confessed after that: http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/wireStory?id=3569145
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I laugh every time the word "victim" is used in these write-ups.
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Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
I laugh every time the word "victim" is used in these write-ups.
My question is when do they cease to become a victim? Ok...sure sex with 8 year old kids is terrible, but is the 16 year old "victim" of student/teacher sex scandals really a victim? I mean the 16 year old is more than likely having some kind of sex with his/her classmates anyway and more than likely it's consensual so why are they labelled as victims? Is a 17 year old a victim too? I'm not condoning sex with minors or anything like that, but what's the difference between a girl or guy that's 17 years and 364 days old compared to an 18 year old guy or girl? The answer is 1 day. Now, what's the difference between a guy or girl that's 16 compared to 18? Well, 2 years is the answer so it's a little bigger deal, but still it's not like they're 8 year old kids. I know if I was lucky enough to be banging some of my hot teachers when I was 16 I sure wouldn't consider myself a victim. Anyway, my point is that 8 year old kids that get molested by their pervert teachers are victims. 16 year old girls or guys that enter into a sexual relationship with their 22 year old first year out of college teachers aren't necessarily victims in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by lotsofdvds
I laugh every time the word "victim" is used in these write-ups.
There was this absolutely gorgeous student teacher in one my classes when I was fifteen. I thought about her victimizing me everyday, for the entire semester.
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My question is when do they cease to become a victim? Ok...sure sex with 8 year old kids is terrible, but is the 16 year old "victim" of student/teacher sex scandals really a victim? I mean the 16 year old is more than likely having some kind of sex with his/her classmates anyway and more than likely it's consensual so why are they labelled as victims? Is a 17 year old a victim too? I'm not condoning sex with minors or anything like that, but what's the difference between a girl or guy that's 17 years and 364 days old compared to an 18 year old guy or girl? The answer is 1 day. Now, what's the difference between a guy or girl that's 16 compared to 18? Well, 2 years is the answer so it's a little bigger deal, but still it's not like they're 8 year old kids. I know if I was lucky enough to be banging some of my hot teachers when I was 16 I sure wouldn't consider myself a victim. Anyway, my point is that 8 year old kids that get molested by their pervert teachers are victims. 16 year old girls or guys that enter into a sexual relationship with their 22 year old first year out of college teachers aren't necessarily victims in my opinion.
Yeah, I think the problem is they couldn't decide exactly where to draw the line so they drew it really high to err on the side of caution. I agree about the abitrary nature of the 17 vs 18 thing. The idea of "If you do this the day before this specified birthday you're a felon, but if you do it the next day you're completely innocent" has always been odd to me. I don't know what the right solution is... maybe a sliding scale of offense (meaning the lower the person's age from 18, the harsher the punishment)?
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Yeah, I think the problem is they couldn't decide exactly where to draw the line so they drew it really high to err on the side of caution. I agree about the abitrary nature of the 17 vs 18 thing. The idea of "If you do this the day before this specified birthday you're a felon, but if you do it the next day you're completely innocent" has always been odd to me. I don't know what the right solution is... maybe a sliding scale of offense (meaning the lower the person's age from 18, the harsher the punishment)?
Sure...I mean obviously there has to be a limit. Somebody chose 18 and that's as good a number as any. There has to be a limit or sickos would be banging kids left and right, but there's a difference between a 17 year old and an 8 year old. Like you said, though, under the current law, 1 day is the only thing that separates a fun night with an 18 year old and a possible jail sentence. Believe it or not but 16 and 17 year old people enjoy sex just as much as 18 year olds do, so the 16 year old victim in cases like these might actually enjoy the situation and don't consider themselves a victim. Was Traci Lords a victim? Aboslutely not. If anything the people she slept with and the porn industry...not to mention the people you bought her movies because they thought she was 18 were the victims. Just because somebody is under 18 doesn't automatically mean they're just innocent little kids that can do no wrong and anything they get themselves into is always the adult's fault.
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Well, for me the thing that bothers me the most is that a person who was entrusted with the care and teaching of a child (yes, they are children) has violated that trust for their own selfish reasons. I don't see how this could ever seriously be considered ok.

I'm just going to assume that those of you who are ok with this must not have a sixteen year old (or any aged) daughter.
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Originally Posted by Palaver
I'm just going to assume that those of you who are ok with this must not have a sixteen year old (or any aged) daughter.
Interesting that you didn't say son, especially since it would be more pertinent to this story.
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Interesting that you didn't say son, especially since it would be more pertinent to this story.
I was referring more to this quote than to the specific story itself:

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16 year old girls or guys that enter into a sexual relationship with their 22 year old first year out of college teachers aren't necessarily victims in my opinion.
But sons would work just as well. But for some reason, people tend to "get it" better when daughters are mentioned as opposed to sons for the obvious macho reasons.
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But sons would work just as well. But for some reason, people tend to "get it" better when daughters are mentioned as opposed to sons for the obvious macho reasons.
Because daughters are completely different than sons. And I say this as the father of two sons.
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Because daughters are completely different than sons. And I say this as the father of two sons.
True. I guess I've shown my bias as a father of a young daughter. I'm having trouble imagining a circumstance where it would acceptable for a person of authority to engage in this behavior with her while she was entrusted in their care.

Also, I still don't think it is acceptable for a 14 year old boy (as it relates to this story) to have this happen to him as well.
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The problem here is more than the age difference. The social relationship, of teacher and student, makes the sexual relationship inappropriate at best.

It creates an implication of coercion.

Besides, would the boys be expecting to get good grades because of the sex? If they do get a break on their grades, they are being cheated of their education, and taught that they can buy advancement with sex. If they don't get a break, they will feel cheated, and like their relationship with the teacher does not matter.

Not good, even if they were of age.
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