For L. Ron so loved the world that he sent Tom Cruise...
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Wow.. Is this real? Is he being serious? Just wow...
Why do you think the Church of Scientology wants the video GONE. They know how wacked Tom is. But they love his wallet. And they love the many new members he sucks in every year.
Why do you think the Church of Scientology wants the video GONE. They know how wacked Tom is. But they love his wallet. And they love the many new members he sucks in every year.
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Ok Tom is loopy.
I disagree with this. They don't want bad publicity and this video getting all the exposure is bound to give them bad publicity. I'm sure they would love to show it to potential brainwashees, but now that it's circulating they need to get into damage control, so they want to minimize the exposure of the video. It's a very private little club they like to run. This is just too public.
Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
Why do you think the Church of Scientology wants the video GONE. They know how wacked Tom is. But they love his wallet. And they love the many new members he sucks in every year.
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I'm sure they wouldn't mind showing it to their own followers, but they want to prevent outsiders from seeing how much of a freakshow Tom is. As more people see it, more people will associate it with CoS. Which is good, because it would be a parallel truth.
For example, they made up the Freedom Medal of Valor, just for Tom. It's a clear example of a church which caters to the wealthy members like Tom, making them think they are special, when in fact, they laugh at the dumbasses behind closed doors that Tom can't even get into.
For example, they made up the Freedom Medal of Valor, just for Tom. It's a clear example of a church which caters to the wealthy members like Tom, making them think they are special, when in fact, they laugh at the dumbasses behind closed doors that Tom can't even get into.
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Originally Posted by DVD Polizei
I'm sure they wouldn't mind showing it to their own followers, but they want to prevent outsiders from seeing how much of a freakshow Tom is. As more people see it, more people will associate it with CoS. Which is good, because it would be a parallel truth.
For example, they made up the Freedom Medal of Valor, just for Tom. It's a clear example of a church which caters to the wealthy members like Tom, making them think they are special, when in fact, they laugh at the dumbasses behind closed doors that Tom can't even get into.
For example, they made up the Freedom Medal of Valor, just for Tom. It's a clear example of a church which caters to the wealthy members like Tom, making them think they are special, when in fact, they laugh at the dumbasses behind closed doors that Tom can't even get into.
I have no clue where Tom ranks in the Scientology club. It's all rumors at this point. It's pretty clear that he's not the brightest bulb in the sky despite his ability to act on film.
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"The way to make a million dollars is to start a religion." - L. Ron Hubbard
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Originally Posted by Anubis2005X
I found him to be rather glib in that video...
Ha ha.... in all seriousness, it's easy to laugh at this... but I do have to say he's dedicated to his beliefs...and I give him that. The all or nothing approach when it comes to our personal convictions isn't something we see too often nowadays...it's all about convenience and having a title to boast about. I may not agree with him, but his determination is unquestionable imo.
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I wonder how we'll see a news clip of all the members found dead in bunkbeds with jump suits and nike cortez tennies.
I also loved the scene where he challenges anyone who apposes... wow!
I also loved the scene where he challenges anyone who apposes... wow!
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He can't even finish a sentence. He fills the end of each sentence with, "you know", because he doesn't know what to say.
He is not only a raving lunatic, he comes across as colossally stupid, uneducated, and ignorant.
He is not only a raving lunatic, he comes across as colossally stupid, uneducated, and ignorant.

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kinda prefer this speech more NSFW
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Originally Posted by Artman
The all or nothing approach when it comes to our personal convictions isn't something we see too often nowadays....
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Originally Posted by Artman
but I do have to say he's dedicated to his beliefs...and I give him that. The all or nothing approach when it comes to our personal convictions isn't something we see too often nowadays....
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The interesting thing is how these Hollywood actors who are into Scientology seem to be regular folks. (Even Tom Cruise seemed alright until a few years ago, around the time of his divorce with Nicole.)
Now I just found out Jason Lee is a member. It's so hard for me to imagine that the character of Earl - a regular guy who probably reminds us all of someone we know - is played by a guy who also believes in an alien named Xenu.
A common argument from some is that the story behind Scientology is no less bizarre than Christianity, Judaism or Muslim. But I say that if we just compare the religions as stories and nothing more, Scientology still comes across as a really, really bad sci-fi story. Even if you think all religions are fantasies, the Bible does not read like it was written by Ed Wood.
Now I just found out Jason Lee is a member. It's so hard for me to imagine that the character of Earl - a regular guy who probably reminds us all of someone we know - is played by a guy who also believes in an alien named Xenu.
A common argument from some is that the story behind Scientology is no less bizarre than Christianity, Judaism or Muslim. But I say that if we just compare the religions as stories and nothing more, Scientology still comes across as a really, really bad sci-fi story. Even if you think all religions are fantasies, the Bible does not read like it was written by Ed Wood.
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There is some more video here.
http://wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=3394
Ok this is just scary. Him saluting L. Ron's portrait..classic.
http://wwtdd.com/post.phtml?pk=3394
Ok this is just scary. Him saluting L. Ron's portrait..classic.
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I read some of those excerpts from the unauthorized biography and one said that Tom got a little peeved when he got to the top of the Scientology ladder only to find out the entire belief system is about aliens. Then he presumably got another injection of whatever shit they have him hooked on and he got over it. Now they think Katie's baby is the reincarnation of L. Ron Hubbard. How could anyone <i>not</i> think this shit is absolutely nuts? And now they've converted Will Smith? Anyone else think they really ARE pod people and the real Tom Cruise and Will Smith have turned into dust?
#44
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Originally Posted by rennervision
A common argument from some is that the story behind Scientology is no less bizarre than Christianity, Judaism or Muslim. But I say that if we just compare the religions as stories and nothing more, Scientology still comes across as a really, really bad sci-fi story. Even if you think all religions are fantasies, the Bible does not read like it was written by Ed Wood.
Give Scientology a couple thousand years and we'll have scholars devoting their lives to classifying which of Hubbard's rantings are to be taken literally and which were merely meant as instructive metaphors.
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Originally Posted by rennervision
The interesting thing is how these Hollywood actors who are into Scientology seem to be regular folks. (Even Tom Cruise seemed alright until a few years ago, around the time of his divorce with Nicole.)
Now I just found out Jason Lee is a member. It's so hard for me to imagine that the character of Earl - a regular guy who probably reminds us all of someone we know - is played by a guy who also believes in an alien named Xenu.
A common argument from some is that the story behind Scientology is no less bizarre than Christianity, Judaism or Muslim. But I say that if we just compare the religions as stories and nothing more, Scientology still comes across as a really, really bad sci-fi story. Even if you think all religions are fantasies, the Bible does not read like it was written by Ed Wood.
Now I just found out Jason Lee is a member. It's so hard for me to imagine that the character of Earl - a regular guy who probably reminds us all of someone we know - is played by a guy who also believes in an alien named Xenu.
A common argument from some is that the story behind Scientology is no less bizarre than Christianity, Judaism or Muslim. But I say that if we just compare the religions as stories and nothing more, Scientology still comes across as a really, really bad sci-fi story. Even if you think all religions are fantasies, the Bible does not read like it was written by Ed Wood.
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It *used* to be that they held the "alien" knowledge back until you were fairly high in the ranks.
Is that still true? Are people really that clueless? The "alien" stuff has been common knowledge for years now, I thought.
Any religion that involves "secret" doctrines that aren't meant to be known by the general public is, by *definition*, dangerously manipulative and worthy of censure.
Sadly, I think that includes Mormons (and the we're-not-a-religion Masons) as well.
Is that still true? Are people really that clueless? The "alien" stuff has been common knowledge for years now, I thought.
Any religion that involves "secret" doctrines that aren't meant to be known by the general public is, by *definition*, dangerously manipulative and worthy of censure.
Sadly, I think that includes Mormons (and the we're-not-a-religion Masons) as well.
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you know we have our own Scientologist right here in this forum. I know its hard to believe but TheEditKing was once forcibly converted into the ranks of Xenu!
His harrowing tale here:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=428158
His harrowing tale here:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=428158
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#48
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Originally Posted by biermacht
This trait is all too familiar with fanatical people. Either they be religious fanatics or conspiracy theorists we see them a lot in everyday life.
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/S...testimony.html
There are other stories just like this one. Start at chapter 5, where she is indoctrinated. It gets worse from there.
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Originally Posted by dork
True, Wood would have known that no one would buy the idea of people rising from the dead, others living to almost a thousand, talking animals (and on occasion plants), walking on water, conjuring baked goods out of thin air, etc.
