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Old 04-02-07, 05:45 PM
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Police say Seattle pedophile's website is legal

Although they wish it wasn't.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,262700,00.html

Seattle-Area Pedophile Has 'How-to' Web Site for Men Seeking Little Girl Activities
Friday , March 30, 2007

A Web site created by a pedophile is a virtual "how-to" manual, complete with the best places in western Washington state to see little girls, and tips on how to avoid getting caught by the police.

The site, titled "Seattle-Tacoma-Everett Girl Love," has been around for a few years. The police know all about it, yet they say they can't shut it down because the site is legal.

"As disturbing and offensive as we find this, there's no evidence of a crime, or even suspicion of illegal activity," said Rebecca Hover of the Snohomish County Sheriff's Department.

The man who runs it, 45-year-old Jack McClellan, has never been convicted of a sex crime, which means he can attend any family-friendly events where children are present, and take all the pictures he wants for his Web site. He also lives close to a school bus stop.

McClellan says his purpose is to promote association, friendship and legal, consensual hugging and cuddling between men and pre-pubescent girls. He admitted to FOX News that his "age of attraction" is between 3 and 11 years old.

"I guess the main thing is I just think they're cute, a lot cuter than women. I admit there is kind of an erotic arousal there," McClellan said.

"It makes me happy simply. Like I said, I think girls are cute, beautiful, just children in general make me happy ... being around lots of them. ... I'm doing what anyone else would do with a hobby. If someone's into birds they're taking pictures of birds. I'm convinced that none of these images are illegal."

McClellan wants to bring pedophiles out of the closet and give them a way to get some relief, by going out and being around little girls. He suggests a number of places, such as plays at elementary schools, parks, swimming pools and libraries.

"I really think a lot of this pedophilia hysteria is overblown. I think there are a lot of people like me. They have the attraction but they're not going to do anything physical because of the laws. It just makes me happy to attend these events."

McClellan said that for pedophiles, just being around children is almost like a "legal high" that makes them happy.

But "I can understand the fear," he added. "I hope that what I'm doing is setting myself up as an example that it is possible to have these attractions and not be out of control."

But he said while it's OK to look, it's not OK to touch, given the many state laws in place to protect children against that.

"I know it sounds kind of crazy, but there's kind of a code of ethics that these pedophiles have developed and what it is ... the contact has to be completely consensual, no coercion, if you're going to do it," McClellan said.

Parents are understandably outraged. FOX News spoke to the mother of an 8-year-old girl whose picture appeared on the Web site. The picture was taken at a dance recital.

"I needed to get those pictures off of there. I didn't want the pedophile community having any visibility to my daughter or her friends or any of the children that were on that site," said parent Ann Cialoa. "Whether it's a physical threat, a perceived threat, whatever threat it is. It's our jobs as parents to protect our kids from threats, and he is a threat, and people like him are a threat."

Some legal experts have said the best course of action for parents who see their kids' pictures on sites like these, is to get a temporary restraining order against McClellan and demand that his Web site be taken down.

"You have one in your face and you can't do anything about it because there's not a law to protect them from that," Cialoa said. "It's scary, and the fact that we're going to wait around for him to violate before we do something."

Neighbors of McClellan's say there's a man who rides his bike around town at night and peeps into others' windows. They believe that may be McClellan.

"You'll notice that every single person in this neighborhood has very large attack dogs," said neighbor Melissa Henry.

The Web site was taken down by the Internet service provider after FOX News called the company about it this week. The company is investigating whether any material on the site is illegal.

At least one area school has sent McClellan a letter saying if he comes onto school property or attends their functions, they will consider it trespassing and will have him arrested.

Police and prosecutors are watching him closely to see if he crosses the line. A handful of state legislators are looking at drafting a new law to deal with such Web sites. But until they do, McClellan is free to continue pushing pedophilia.

FOX News' Robert Shaffer and Dan Springer contributed to this report.
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In my neck of the woods, Mr. McClellan's house would mysteriously burn to the ground....
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Bwahahaha!!!!!

American "tolerance" at its worst, or is that "best".. bwwaahahah!!!!
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That's sick. I'll bookmark it, but I'll be outraged the entire time.
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What would you call a guy like this 150 years ago?

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Originally Posted by Groucho
What would you call a guy like this 150 years ago?

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That is absolutely true.

I've tried to follow the history of the change, but it isn't real obvious.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
What would you call a guy like this 150 years ago?

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He admitted to FOX News that his "age of attraction" is between 3 and 11 years old.
The upper end of the spectrum, perhaps, but the lower end may have been pushing it a tad, even 150 years ago.
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If you rearrange Jack McClellan, it actually spells Michael Jackson.
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Originally Posted by Vandelay_Inds
Ahhh, enlightened liberalism.
Do you have an advanced degree in misinterpretation?
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and the Feds bust Tommy Chong for selling glass pipes on-line.....

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"As disturbing and offensive as we find this, there's no evidence of a crime, or even suspicion of illegal activity,"

No suspicion of illegal activity?
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Originally Posted by Premise
"As disturbing and offensive as we find this, there's no evidence of a crime, or even suspicion of illegal activity,"

No suspicion of illegal activity?
I thought the same thing. But in our country you can write about how to make bombs, poison people so it looks like a natural death, etc. Given that, I can understand why he said that.
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Originally Posted by Max Bottomtime
McClellan says his purpose is to promote association, friendship and legal, consensual hugging and cuddling between men and pre-pubescent girls. He admitted to FOX News that his "age of attraction" is between 3 and 11 years old.

McClellan wants to bring pedophiles out of the closet and give them a way to get some relief, by going out and being around little girls. He suggests a number of places, such as plays at elementary schools, parks, swimming pools and libraries.
WTF, if some mofo like this got near my child, I would beat him until I broke my hand.
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Originally Posted by crazyronin
In my neck of the woods, Mr. McClellan's house would mysteriously burn to the ground....
No kidding.
Old 04-02-07, 09:01 PM
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The posting of pics of other people's kids w/o their parents' permission is wrong. At least with that, legal experts did say that court orders can be obtained to take it down.

But as long as people's rights aren't being violated, it is a fair form of free speech.

Consider how many examples there are of popular media (movies, books, video games, etc) depicting illegal activities in fine detail. It's perfectly legal because they aren't violating people's rights, but that doesn't stop some people (victims and criminals) from assigning blame on these things.

It is the same thing in which some Iman might 'motivate' some terrorist acts but it is really the terrorists who should be held accountable.

But the other thing is that people are hardly consistent with their outrage because they tend to single out only certain things like pedolit or radical Muslim clerics.
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Whether it's legal or not, doesn't mean shit. It violates the web hoster's TOS. The bitch be shut down.

Although I agree, it would be nice to have this guy in prison. I read some of his web pages and they were sick--the word "predator" really takes meaning when you read his diaries. Makes me paranoid to even have kids in this world these days.
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I hope he 'accidently' gets shot a couple dozen times, or maybe on the wrong end of a mack truck.

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Seattle-Area Pedophile
Just show me how to get there....

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I would rather have a pedophile be open and honest about it, and have a webpage or whatever, than have them keep it a secret. It's easier to keep tabs on them in the first case, and more than likely the ones out in public aren't the real monsters.
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Originally Posted by Breakfast with Girls
I would rather have a pedophile be open and honest about it, and have a webpage or whatever, than have them keep it a secret. It's easier to keep tabs on them in the first case, and more than likely the ones out in public aren't the real monsters.
Did you even read the article? It's a website assisting other pedophiles (not public) conducting pedophile activities.
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Originally Posted by Breakfast with Girls
I would rather have a pedophile be open and honest about it, and have a webpage or whatever, than have them keep it a secret. It's easier to keep tabs on them in the first case, and more than likely the ones out in public aren't the real monsters.
I really can't argue with that. It's just rather sickening a pedophile, with the use of the internet, can dramatically expand his/her reach to others who may not have thought about such possibilities that are being discussed on these websites. It's a bad catalyst which creates a continuing and expanding dangerous atmosphere.

At what point does a society say, "Ok, this just can't be talked about in a public arena such as the internet. Talk about it in your home. But not in public."

Yes, we have a plethora of other "bad" topics on the net, but Pedophilia should be the first to go down the toilet of public expression.

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No URL in the article?
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Originally Posted by Goldblum
Did you even read the article?
Seems to me that BwG is one of the few who did....
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How is this any different than the guys on Dateline's To Catch a Predator? Technically they never had sex with a minor either (never had the chance to!), but they were arrested anyway.
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Originally Posted by Seantn
How is this any different than the guys on Dateline's To Catch a Predator? Technically they never had sex with a minor either (never had the chance to!), but they were arrested anyway.
Depends on the state. Most of those guys on Dateline go to jail because they entered the house with intent to have sex with a minor. Sometimes it's because they sent pics of their privates or had a sexual conversation online with someone posing as a minor.

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