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Old 07-14-06, 04:25 PM
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"When The Husband Takes Viagra; The Wife Takes Ambien"

I recently attended a seminar on marriage and relational counseling, and it got me thinking about how relationships, marriages, and divorces have changed over the last 30-40 years (or in the last 2 generations or so). I have some really interesting tidbits I took from the seminar, but i'll hold off for a bit, b/c I'd like to know what people think. Btw.......the title was a quote from a patient (not mine) about some rooted relational problems she was having with her husband.

So....do you think marriage/relationships have changed in the last 30-40 years, and do you think divorce has changed in that time period? Why/Why not?

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Old 07-14-06, 04:36 PM
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All I know is that when my wife takes an Ambien, you could rev a Harley next to her head and she'd never know it.
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I heard Ambien costs like $8 a pill..is that true?

Also...i heard you get some crazy ass hallucinations if you can fight the sleepiness.
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Ambien is definately some good stuff. I use to take it 2-3 years ago.

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Well since Ambien is basically like a roofie with the added bonus of amnesia, well, I call that a win/win!

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I think an obvious change over that time span has been the role of the wife in the relationship. Women have become more powerful not only in the business world but in the home as well. Marriage is more of an equal partnership now then it was a few decades ago when it was more common to have the male bread winner and female housewife.

I would also think that divorce rates have increased as well as infidelity. As a consequence I think the number of children with divorced parents living in single parent households have increased.
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Originally Posted by pedagogue
Ambien is definately some good stuff. I use to take it 2-3 years ago.

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What kinda effects did you get?
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I think a lot of people are getting married for the wrong reasons. But, that's nothing new.
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I took Ambien when I was also taking prednisone which caused insomnia. The only effect I got from Ambien was longer and deeper sleep. I suffered no weird side effects.
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Women should do what I say when I say to do it. But they don't.
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Originally Posted by kvrdave
Women should do what I say when I say to do it. But they don't.
after they take the ambien, they will
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What kinda effects did you get?
enlarged breasts

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Originally Posted by twikoff
after they take the ambien, they will
Good point.
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Society as a whole in the last 50 years has become more fixated on instant gratification. There's more emphasis on the short-term and less on the long-term. And I think it applies to relationships and marriages as well. People are less inclined to work on problems and ride them out than they were 50 years ago. The whole notion of marriage has laxed so divorces nowadays aren't such a big deal anymore.
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Originally Posted by pedagogue
Ambien is definately some good stuff. I use to take it 2-3 years ago.

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Did you have any problems with dependency?
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Originally Posted by Turd Ferguson
All I know is that when my wife takes an Ambien, you could rev a Harley next to her head and she'd never know it.
So it is a perfect combo for viagra...
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i've taken ambien on and off for a couple of years....helped me fall asleep i guess, but that was about it

as for dependency, my wife was pretty well hooked on it for a while....it wasn't good. it is definately habit forming, no matter what anyone says.

and yes, there are people who use it recreationally...which is pretty fucking stupid.
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Old 07-15-06, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SeekOnce
Society as a whole in the last 50 years has become more fixated on instant gratification. There's more emphasis on the short-term and less on the long-term. And I think it applies to relationships and marriages as well. People are less inclined to work on problems and ride them out than they were 50 years ago. The whole notion of marriage has laxed so divorces nowadays aren't such a big deal anymore.
Some of it likely is that, but I'm guessing part of it is also that its now acceptable to get divorced. In years gone by, people would stay in bad marriages because that the way it was, divorce was akin to a scarlet letter.

I agree that some people see divorce as a convient solution instead of working things out - but something don't work out and its now acceptable to part ways instead of being stuck living a life you hate.
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Did you have any problems with dependency?
nope, though I only used it for a few weeks, then here and there. Technically you are only suppose to use to short term b/c it wasn't developed for longterm use, though some doctors prescribe it more liberally for longer use.

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I believe, for many, that divorce is a short-term solution to a long term problem. Many of the contributing negative factors in a relationship aren't soley products of the relationship, but more a characteristic of a person (or persons), that is brought out in certain circumstances. So to put it plainly, some people suck at relationships because they continue to do shitty things, like a broken record.

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Old 07-15-06, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SeekOnce
Society as a whole in the last 50 years has become more fixated on instant gratification. There's more emphasis on the short-term and less on the long-term. And I think it applies to relationships and marriages as well. People are less inclined to work on problems and ride them out than they were 50 years ago. The whole notion of marriage has laxed so divorces nowadays aren't such a big deal anymore.

back in the old days the woman didn't have much options for living alone and so most times she would just live in a bad relationship
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Old 07-16-06, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by al_bundy
back in the old days the woman didn't have much options for living alone and so most times she would just live in a bad relationship

Now they have more options, live with someone else, and just live in a bad relationship.

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