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Old 06-29-06, 05:51 PM
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leaving before BB comes around = bad etiquette?

is it wrong to decide when you want to leave, then keep playing hands before the big blind comes around, at which point you get up and leave? (basically to get as many free looks at cards as possible) is it bad table etiquette?
Old 06-29-06, 05:54 PM
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Nope. You paid for those cards in the past round of blinds, so don't feel guilty for your free looks. You never know when it can pay off.

I was right before the BB once at a 2/4 table at a casino, and waited for my last hand. Had AQ os. Raised and got a few callers. Flopped 2 pair, and then the nut boat on the turn. Made like $60 and then left. Nothing better than that.
Old 06-29-06, 06:28 PM
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In a NL game it is proper etiquette to announce your intentions of leaving in X many minutes/hands if you've taken a shitload of money off of other players. You don't want to carry the "he took our money and ran" image with you in case you decide to come back.

In a limit game, nobody gives a shit.
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Originally Posted by El Scorcho
In a NL game it is proper etiquette to announce your intentions of leaving in X many minutes/hands if you've taken a shitload of money off of other players. You don't want to carry the "he took our money and ran" image with you in case you decide to come back.

In a limit game, nobody gives a shit.
In poker, isn't that exactly what you want to do, take their money and run?

I can see etiquette coming into effect here. If anything, the next time you come back, and you get recognized, you would be more likely to get action. As in that they would want their money back?
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No. It is normal.
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Originally Posted by gimmepilotwings
In poker, isn't that exactly what you want to do, take their money and run?

I can see etiquette coming into effect here. If anything, the next time you come back, and you get recognized, you would be more likely to get action. As in that they would want their money back?
If you're playing for any seriously meaningful stakes and you hit-n-run, you could end up with a knuckle sandwich at some of the seedier places. People hate losing. They especially hate not having a chance to get it back, even more so if you were completely lucky and didn't even outplay them.
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Doesn't make much sense to leave right after the blind has gone by you. Any poker player should see that.
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No, it is standard, and makes the most sense. Always leave before the BB gets to you.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
Nope. You paid for those cards in the past round of blinds, so don't feel guilty for your free looks. You never know when it can pay off.
I'm glad I stayed a few more hands when I was in a similiar situation. Dealt AKo UTG at a $2/$4 NL game. Raise to $20, and the loosest caller at the table calls and everyone else folds. Flop comes K and 2 rags. I bet like $60, and he calls. Turn is another K and I push my remaining stack (around $250 before the hand started, so about $170 here). he calls, and has middle pair. River doesn't help him, and I double up to around $510.
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I just finished reading "The Professor, The Banker, and The Sucide King" and the author actually mentioned that all the pros do this. He told a situation where Jennifer Harmon sat at Lederer's seat at a game so Lederer could move to another game. She waited until the BB was at her right to get up and leave.
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Originally Posted by El Scorcho
In a NL game it is proper etiquette to announce your intentions of leaving in X many minutes/hands if you've taken a shitload of money off of other players. You don't want to carry the "he took our money and ran" image with you in case you decide to come back.

In a limit game, nobody gives a shit.
This seems like an overly courteous gesture to me. In fact, I always make sure I don't do anything to indicate that I'll be leaving when the BB gets to me. If you start racking your chips, but then suddenly play a hand strongly, it could be a pretty solid tell that you're got a big hand. Then again, it could be a reverse tell also. I would never tell anyone, or indicate as much, in a casino. In a home game, assuming it is a friendly game, I would probably let people know that I would be leaving at a certain time, or after a certain number of orbits (and, of course, just before it was my BB).
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Some people have a tendency to play differently when it is their last hand or round. So be sure to pay attention to your hand selection late in your session. To answer the OPs original question, no, it is not bad etiquette to leave just before your blinds. It is smart poker! It's not bad etiquette at any time to leave, you are never obligated to stay and give others a chance at their money. In fact, one time I was dealing 10-20 and a guy came and posted in middle position(not smart) and wound up winning a large pot(around $400), went and got a rack and left immediately. He was playing way above his normal limit and didn't want to lose anymore. The only time it would work against you is if you do this in a home game, you probably won't get invited back.
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I like to straddle my last hand UTG before the BB hits me. Especially in a limit game where straddling is fucking pointless other than pissing off the local nits.

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