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Old 03-24-06, 12:42 PM
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School "504" experience.. ?

My son has been diagnosed with A.D.D and we've been trying to get him on the right medications to help him but as those who work with kids with this problem know it's really hard to find the right meds and the right amount of meds. His teachers all say he does his homework, participates in class, and he's a good student. Yet - he's not doing well as he "blanks" on tests. His math teacher says he will fail a math test horribly, but when she asks him how to do the problem he can explain it to her and do it right. She suggested, as did another teacher, we fill out a form "504" that will require the teachers and the school to get him extra time and leeway on tests and assignments. I was wondering if anyone on here has any experience with getting this going and what sort of pushback we can expect from the school?

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I have no experience whatsoever, but apparently Google Ads seems to think that Form 504 is used to get magazine subscriptions.

Good luck with your son.
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Originally Posted by General Zod
My son has been diagnosed with A.D.D and we've been trying to get him on the right medications to help him but as those who work with kids with this problem know it's really hard to find the right meds and the right amount of meds. His teachers all say he does his homework, participates in class, and he's a good student. Yet - he's not doing well as he "blanks" on tests. His math teacher says he will fail a math test horribly, but when she asks him how to do the problem he can explain it to her and do it right. She suggested, as did another teacher, we fill out a form "504" that will require the teachers and the school to get him extra time and leeway on tests and assignments. I was wondering if anyone on here has any experience with getting this going and what sort of pushback we can expect from the school?

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My dad had excellent luck with one of my brothers who was slow in math, by simply telling him that if he flunked a math test, he would be beaten into unconsciousness. But then, this was in the sixties, before there were any good drugs.
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I assume 504 is their term for IEP (Individualized Education Program) paperwork. If you have a diagnosis of ADD, you can go through the steps with the school to get your son accomodations that will help him maximize his abilities. There is some paperwork involved but the result will be a formalized IEP for your son which will outline the services he can get. Typically for ADD diagnosed kids the services include: extended time for test taking, a quiet area to take the test, a desk that is closer to the teacher and not in a position to allow him to get easily distracted, augmented homework assignments, possibly additional tutoring, etc.

Extended Time: Helps reduce anxiety while also negating some of the effects of being distracted.

Quiet Area for Test Taking: Rather straight forward...less distraction will allow your son to better display his ability / understanding of the knowledge.

Specific Seating: In the world of a child with ADD, most everything is a distraction. Sitting away from the windows and toward the front of the class and/or where the teacher normally works from will allow your son to better focus and be less likely to get distracted.

Augmented HW: Many times HW is a huge problem with children with ADD. If your son understands the concepts, then reducing the number of problems (ESPECIALLY in math, which is a very common problem area for kids with ADD) will not effect his learning, but will increase his HW completion.

Additional Tutoring: Children with ADD have a full range of IQ and learning ability. If your son is average or above average a traditional tutor may not be necessary, however a school psychologist / clinician may be able to teach him better ways to break down and process his work. If he can learn these skills early, they will effect his ability to learn / retain information better than any other intervention.

Do some leg work and learn about the services that are available to you. Most schools are very good at handling IEP's, but some slack. Make sure your son gets the right services. Feel free to drop me a line if you have any questions. I'm not an educator, but I've worked in the specialist programs within a school and can probably point you in the right direction.

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A few more points.....typically you'll get push back from teh school if you don't have a formal diagnosis. Working with an IEP is much more work for the school, but your son is entitled to the services under federal and state law.

Medication is merely a part of the overall solution. Even if you find a great medication, your son willl still need to develop coping skills, etc. Do you run into any problems at home with his behavior? Many times failure to have adequate coping skills results in flare ups at home (both from the parents and the child).

It would behoove you to talk to your son about this process if you choose to go forward. You might get more push back from him than the school. He needs to understand that it isn't that he is stupid or slow. He needs to work as hard or harder than the other students, but the hard work will pay off. Often times kids who have to work harder at school gain more from it because they are more invested.

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Originally Posted by General Zod
His teachers all say he does his homework, participates in class, and he's a good student. Yet - he's not doing well as he "blanks" on tests. His math teacher says he will fail a math test horribly
Kind of the opposite for my son... He does great on tests - but doesn't participate in class or do his homework. What would the opposite of ADD be?
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What would the opposite of ADD be?
SUBTRACT

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Thanks pedagogue. He is under the care of a doctor for his meds and condition. There are some small behavior problems but i'm glad to say he's really "grown out of them" over the last couple of years. He does get moody sometimes, but he's a a teenager and I expect that every now and then.

He was diagnosed with "Mild" A.D.D which is why we've been hesitatant to go with the 504. We didn't want him to feel different or anything and we thought he could work through it. I think at this point he just really needs the extra help the school can give him. Thanks again for posting the information, we'll review it and take action. We've got an appointment to talk to his councellor next week.
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My 8 year old is ADHD and is on one of those programs. As for the right meds, should you choose to go that route, just make sure you find one that doesn't keep him up at night or cause him to lose too much weight.

You can also try taking him to see an occupational therapist for individual attention for his issues.

I've deal with this for many years now so please feel free to email me any time if you have any questions you'd like to ask.

Best of luck to you.

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