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Old 03-19-06, 03:33 PM
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Help me minimize how screwed I get by this eBay "Buyer"

Hi All-

Well, I have my first eBay "situation" after about 200 successful transactions as buyer and seller.

Here's the setup: I was selling make-up (laugh laugh, my wife's doing). Anyway, auction closes 5 days ago, and today I receive an email from the buyer that they have been computerless for a week, someone else must have bid on this auction without consent or knowledge and because she just spent 300 on train tickets she can't afford to pay.

Here's the problem: I checked her feedback. She buys a good amount of makeup *and* it happens to be the same brand that we sold. Odds of her really being fake bid are incredibly low. Plus, the price the makeup sold for is lower than other auctions for the same thing, so it isn't just a silly ridiculous bid.

Oh, and she also has a neg from a few months ago where the seller gave her 90 days to pay, the girls rebuttal is that she had a "situation" and the seller refused to understand.

Detail: So I've contacted the spurned seller to get info on the "situation" the girl claimed. No word back yet, and it was November so possible they won't remember.

Goal: I don't want to get negged if I demand payment, and I'm flexible, I also don't want to squeeze cash if she doesn't want to pay. However, I don't want to eat the fees.

What are my options? How does EBAY deal with a situation like this? What can I do to avoid screwage?
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just file a non-paying bidder form. they can't in their right mind neg you for that.
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or have her pay your fees and part ways.

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Old 03-19-06, 03:51 PM
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Yeah, been a member since '99 and first time I'm dealing. Just reading about non-paying bidder now. Blah.
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How much are the fees? If it's a few dollars cut your losses and just call it a day. If the negative is that important to you then just take it this once and tell your wife to get her own damn account.
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Oh, she has her own. Stupidity and balancing a "feeless" paypal acc't and a "fee" one led to this. Anyway, I'm not prepared to lay down on it, even for a few cents.
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File a Non-Paying Bidder and then Neg her AFTER it closes. If she negs you back, so what. 1 Neg out of 200 feedbacks is nothing. I have over 400 feedbacks and have 3 Negs, all retalitory ones. The good thing about ebay is you can atleast post a follup to feedback so you can explain why you have a Neg, being that she wa sa deadbeat.

Keep in mind if she has had a few NPB's filed on her in the past, this one MAY get her kicked off ebay so she couldn't leave you feedback. Food for thought.
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Yup, three NPBs and the member gets kicked off. I'd assume she has at least one in the past due to the negative feedback from that seller...and there could very well be another one from somebody who was in the same boat as you (wanted their fees back, but didn't want to post a negative feedback for fear of retaliation).

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Yeah, definitely has 1, we'll be 2, and 2 other auctions just closed where she won makeup in the same line of the same brand. Effer. Now I'm on a mission.
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Perhaps a "gee, I'm not sure if you know this or not, but somebody just bid on the same line we were selling"
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Oh, I've contacted the other people. We'll see. The last seller who got burnt is encouraging me to see this forward, and I'm 100% certain I'm going to file against her. Sure she can just open a new account once this one gets closed, but I'm going to do my best to try to get rid of this person from the community.
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Sorry for your loss.

How did someone else bid with her account?

Were any other bids placed with that account?
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Yeah, all for the same cosmetics line, magically. If she pulls this on all of us, I'll have us all file and dumped. If she pulls it on me, well, busted. Regardless, I'll get my fees back one way or the other.

Irony is that the item sold below average it has been going for, so I'd almost welcome the relist.
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Next time get someone to bump that bid up so you get the fair market value.
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Shill bidding is a crime and you can get kicked out of the community.
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Yeah, gotta remember that
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For shame.
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Put the makeup on and send her a pic showing what she is missing out on.
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Or just send a photo of Leatherface all dolled up. Think the makeup/wig scene.
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Ok, give me some guidance. I filed the claim and the girl keeps going on AND ON AND ON about how she's not going to pay because she didn't bid. How does a dispute end? Or do she and I simply trade responses for the next 40 years?

She's clearly said that she won't pay. Why won't it end?
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Neg her and take your neg like a man.
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Originally Posted by Breakfast with Girls
Neg her and take your neg like a man.
Oh, I'll take my neg, but I want my damned fees back and I just don't understand why the fucking dispute console keeps making me respond to her annoying pleas.
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your pretty much screwed.....it sucks but ebay & paypal won't do jack shit....they may give you seller fees back but that's about it.
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How do you minimize getting screwed?

GET OVER IT, that's how. You're letting some worm of a woman stress you out over, what, 2 bucks in fees? 5 bucks?

Just file the NPB, then be sure to file for the Final value Fee credit 7 or 10 days later and move on.

This is coming from someone who has sold thousands of items on ebay.

Don't worry, be happy. The only way you "win" is to not let it bother you.
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Her password, etc. is her responsibility so that is not a valid argument. Be sure you forward all of her e-mails to ebay and paypal. She is basically admitting to not owning up to her end of the deal. Then neg the crap out of her. You CAN get your fees back from eBay.

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