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Old 03-13-06, 03:28 PM
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Anyone here own or lease a Hybrid car?

I was thinking of leasing or getting a new car but with the costs of gas and stuff i was thinking of getting a hybrid.

just wondering if you are saving money with a hybrid...

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Old 03-13-06, 03:32 PM
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I read somewhere that you have to own a Prius for 6 years before you would be saving money on gas. But that's if you bought the Prius. Lease is probably different.

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Yeah, I've heard of it.
Old 03-13-06, 03:39 PM
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I don't think the hybrids are worth it now. But I'm sure they will be better in a few years.

Check out this site for car mileages.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymanu.htm

And keep in mind when they talk about "in the city", that usually means no traffic or red lights or stop signs.
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There are many articles about this subject. Consumer reports for instance in their auto issue. The bottom line is donít purchase a hybrid to save money on gas buy a hybrid to decrease gas consumption and push the demand for hybrid technology. If you want to reduce cost; buy a fuel efficient car. Youíll save on the sticker price and have efficient fuel consumption that will also save you money.
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unless you drive 50,000 miles a year, it's not worth it
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Honda Civic's are great on gas
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Originally Posted by Ranger
Check out this site for car mileages.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymanu.htm

And keep in mind when they talk about "in the city", that usually means no traffic or red lights or stop signs.
I wish I can get 26mpg "in the city" for my 06 Accord. That is totally bullshit. I get around 17-18mpg in NYC. When I did my roadtrip to Florida last week, I average 29-30mpg highway only going @ 70mph. When I was doing 80-85mph, I average 26-27mpg. Nothing close to the 34mpg in the EPA estimate.
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Originally Posted by zuffy
I wish I can get 26mpg "in the city" for my 06 Accord. That is totally bullshit. I get around 17-18mpg in NYC. When I did my roadtrip to Florida last week, I average 29-30mpg highway only going @ 70mph. When I was doing 80-85mph, I average 26-27mpg. Nothing close to the 34mpg in the EPA estimate.
On the highway, if you limited your driving to 55 mph which is the max speed in the EPA highway test, you'd come closer

(I know, completely unrealistic, I'm just sayin' . . .)
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Originally Posted by OldDude
On the highway, if you limited your driving to 55 mph which is the max speed in the EPA highway test, you'd come closer

(I know, completely unrealistic, I'm just sayin' . . .)
People will run you off the road doing 55mph in the highway.
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Originally Posted by Talkin2Phil
Consumer reports for instance in their auto issue.
Except that CR posted a revision that completely takes the bite out of their first article.

http://www.infozine.com/news/stories...iew/sid/13481/
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Originally Posted by zuffy
People will run you off the road doing 55mph in the highway.
Of course. I drive 80 too.

But it is one of the reasons the EPA ratings are so unrealistic.

Also in the fuel economy test, accessories (radio, headlights, a/c or heater, etc.) are all turned off. Those suck power and affect real world fuel economy, but aren't measured in the test.

The city test does include stop and go driving, but the acceleration profile is exactly defined, and may not be very realistic (except for granny), most real drivers are probably more aggressive.

The car companies oppose making the test more realistic because the result is also used to compute their CAFE. Since it is known to be wildly optimistic, the EPA derates it, but not by enough, to make it only optimistic.
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Originally Posted by stevevt
Except that CR posted a revision that completely takes the bite out of their first article.

http://www.infozine.com/news/stories...iew/sid/13481/
Thanks for the link. I was considering the Honda Civic Hybrid before reading the first CR article.
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Originally Posted by stevevt
Except that CR posted a revision that completely takes the bite out of their first article.

http://www.infozine.com/news/stories...iew/sid/13481/
From the article:

"The error does not affect the main message of the story, which is that most hybrids do not save their owners money in the first few years, and that the benefits and costs of hybrids vary significantly, depending on the model. Because of the wide range of hybrid vehicles available, it's especially important for consumers to look carefully at all aspects of a vehicle before buying."
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The article also doesn't mention the tax break you get when buying one. We bought the Toyota Highlander Hybrid last year and got about 600 dollars more back on our taxes because of it. It's only a first year deal, but it's something.
I will say the gas savings aren't that great, but when you switch from a GMC Envoy to it, it definitely seems better.
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don't forget you paid $3000 - $5000 more for the hybrid
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Originally Posted by Mopower
I read somewhere that you have to own a Prius for 6 years before you would be saving money on gas. But that's if you bought the Prius. Lease is probably different.
I'm not sure I understand what this is saying, how would you not be saving money on gas in the first 6 years owning a Prius?
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hybrids carry a premium over "regular" cars and you need to drive a lot of miles at current gas prices to save money with a hybrid. If you are concerned about the environment, buy a Honda Civic. They are cheaper than a hybrid and get great milege.
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With the popularity of Hybrids, the makers keep raising the prices. I was seriously considering the Honda Civic hybrid, but wound up going with a Saturn ION which was my backup choice for some other reasons than just fuel economy. If you're interested in gas mileage, the conventional Civic is very good and you'll save about 5 grand on the purchase price vs. the hybrid. I crunched a lot of numbers and found out that I would not be making enough savings in gas per month to justify the increased price of the loan per month I'd be paying for the car. I'd lose more out of pocket per month with a hybrid than I would with a conventional car. Sad, but true. If gas hits $4.00 a gallon, the hybrid would probably be worth it.

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