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Old 02-21-06, 05:24 PM
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School Me on Des Moines

Taking my wife to Des Moines to see The Lion King in a few weeks. We are staying at the Embassy Suites on the River and I'd like to find a nice restaurant for dinner before the show. Any suggestions or ideas are welcome.

And, if there's anything worth checking out the day after...I've driven through Des Moines a few times, but I've never spent enough time there to get a feel for anything.
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5.5 hours from Chicago
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There are a bunch of places to eat downtown. Speghetti Works, Rock Bottom Brewery among others. I don't live in Des Moines anymore so I'm don't know of any new places. I lived there 3 years ago. But you can just walk around downtown and I'm sure you will find something. There is huge mall on the west side but you might have to take a bus there. A cab would be pretty expensive because it's a ways away from downtown. There is also Wells Fargo Arena downtown and they have Iowa Stars hockey the Dallas Stars farm team.

If I think of anything else I'll let you know.

Do you live in Iowa?
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No, I live in Kansas City.
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Most people when asking for restaurant suggestion don't want 100 branch chains. This guy might have, bu generally when loking for places to eat, they are looking for something nice and special that is native to that city.
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Originally Posted by deadlax
Most people when asking for restaurant suggestion don't want 100 branch chains. This guy might have, bu generally when loking for places to eat, they are looking for something nice and special that is native to that city.
I totally agree. Every time there is a thread on where to eat it's ... "fill in the global chain" place.
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Originally Posted by deadlax
Most people when asking for restaurant suggestion don't want 100 branch chains. This guy might have, bu generally when loking for places to eat, they are looking for something nice and special that is native to that city.

I didn't know Speghetti Works was in any other city. My deepest apologies.
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Court Ave. Brewing Co. and Raccoon River Brewery are two local restaurants downtown. So is Splash, a seafood place, Centro, an Italian place (it's local to Iowa, there's also one in Davenport).

In the East Village, not far from Embassy Suites there is Noodle Zoo. There is also the Royal Mile, a British place (try a Scotch Egg) and the Hessen Haus, a German place.

Over near Sec Taylor stadium (still downtown) is the High Life Lounge, a bar inspired by Miller High Life. Cheap food and it's a lot of fun.
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Originally Posted by majorjoe23
Court Ave. Brewing Co. and Raccoon River Brewery

Raccoon River is what I was thinking of but said Rock Bottom. Oops.
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Damn. El Scorcho has failed this thread. Where is his informative info?

Mr. Salty may have some tips as well.
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Why, yes I do, Buford!

I agree with the recommendation of Splash Seafood; it's one of the best restaurants in town. If you're flush with cash and don't mind spending it, you can't get better than 801 Steak & Chop House, which has some of the best steaks in the country. It's where all the big political candidates and national media eat during election season. Dinner for two, with wine, can easily top $100, though.

Another place I like is the Flying Mango, at 4345 Hickman Road. They have a nice selection of Cajun food and smoked meats.

For shopping, definitely check out the new mall, Jordan Creek Town Center. It's about 20 minutes from downtown. Great place, as far as malls go.
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Stay far FAR away from Spaghetti Works. That place is fucking nasty. The Royal Mile, Hessen Haus, Splash and Centro are all really good. 801 Steak and Chop is supposed to be good, but I haven't eaten there. For a "nice" dinner, I would say Splash, Centro or 801. Royal Mile and Hessen Haus have good food and are fun, but are more casual.

As for events, depends on what you want to do. There's usually Live music and stuff going on downtown, plus bars and clubs. If you want to do some shopping, Jordan Creek Mall out west is nice, but it doesn't really have anything you don't have in KC, I don't think.
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Not a restaurant selection, but the next day you could show her your romantic side and take her around the Bridges of Madison county. It's just a short trip from Des Moines. You could always stop by the Northside Cafe in Somerset for some eats as well. It's the cafe they used in the movie. Of course if you hate the movie, forget everything I just said.
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Des Moines (French for 'Of the Monks') (pronounced /dɪˈmɔɪn/ in English, /demwan/ in French) is the capital city of the U.S. state of Iowa. It was incorporated on September 22, 1851, as Fort Des Moines, until it was shortened to "Des Moines" in 1857.[1] It is also the county seat of Polk County. According to the 2000 census, the population of the city is 198,682.

Des Moines is located in the south central part of the state. The Des Moines River and the Raccoon River meet just south of the downtown and serve as the city's primary water supply.

Many insurance companies are headquartered in Des Moines, including the Principal Financial Group, Equitable of Iowa, Allied Insurance, ARAG Legal Insurance, and American Republic Insurance Company. Long known as the "Hartford of the West," Des Moines replaced Hartford, Connecticut, as the number one city for insurance in the United States in 2004. As a center of financial and insurance services, the metro area appears to be well poised for continued growth.

In 1907, the city adopted a city commission government known as the "Des Moines Plan," consisting of an elected mayor and four commissioners who were responsible for public works, public property, public safety, and finance. This form of government was scrapped in 1950 in favor of a council-manager government, and tweaked in 1967 so that four of the six city council members were elected by ward rather than at-large.

Like many cities, Des Moines began losing people to its suburbs after reaching a peak population of 208,982 in 1960. Construction of the Interstate Highway System during the late 1950s and 1960s, capped off with the completion of Interstate 235 in 1968, made access to the suburbs easier.

The skyline of downtown Des Moines changed during the 1970s and 1980s as several new skyscrapers were built. Until then the 19-story Equitable Building, dating back to 1924, was the tallest building in the city. That changed as the 25-story Financial Center was completed in 1972 and the 36-story Ruan Center was completed in 1974. They were later joined by the 30-story Marriott hotel (1981), the 18-story Hub Tower (1985), and Iowa's tallest building, Principal Financial Group's 44-story tower at 801 Grand (1990). This time period also saw the opening of the Civic Center of Greater Des Moines (1979), the Des Moines Botanical Center (1979), the Polk County Convention Complex (1985), and the State of Iowa Historical Building (1987). The Des Moines skywalk system also began to take shape during the 1980s. By the beginning of 2006, the skywalk system was over three miles (5 km) long and connected most major downtown buildings.

Des Moines made national headlines during the Great Flood of 1993. Heavy rains throughout June and early July caused the Des Moines and Raccoon Rivers to rise above flood stage levels. The Des Moines Water Works was submerged by floodwaters during the early morning hours of July 11, 1993, leaving an estimated 250,000 people without running water for 12 days and without drinking water for 20 days.

The extensive redevelopment of the downtown area has continued in recent years. The new Science Center of Iowa and the Iowa Events Center opened in 2005, while the new central branch of the Des Moines Public Library, designed by David Chipperfield, is scheduled to open April 8, 2006. In 2002 the Principal Financial Group and the city of Des Moines announced plans for the Principal Riverwalk, which will run along both sides of the Des Moines and feature new trails, pedestrian bridges across the river, a fountain and skating plaza, and a "civic garden" in front of the Des Moines City Hall. Several existing downtown buildings have either been converted or are being converted to loft apartments and condominiums in an effort to attract more residents to the downtown area. This trend is highlighted by the success of the "East Village" district of shops, studios, and housing between the capitol district and the Des Moines river.

Fueled in part by recent development in Des Moines, the suburbs are growing at a faster pace than the city. West Des Moines, in particular, now has over 50,000 people and is home to the Jordan Creek Town Center, the largest shopping center in Iowa, as well as several Wells Fargo office complexes, including a new corporate campus that is scheduled for completion in 2007.

Geography
Des Moines is located at 41°35'27" North, 93°37'15" West (41.590939, -93.620866)GR1.

According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 200.1 km˛ (77.2 mi˛). 196.3 km˛ (75.8 mi˛) of it is land and 3.8 km˛ (1.5 mi˛) of it is water. The total area is 1.88% water.

Metropolitan area
The Des Moines Metropolitan Statistical Area consists of five central Iowa counties: Polk, Dallas, Warren, Madison, and Guthrie. The area had a 2000 census population of 481,394 and an estimated 2004 population of 511,878 [2]. The Des Moines-Newton-Pella Combined Statistical Area consists of those five counties plus Jasper and Marion counties; the 2000 census population of this area was 550,659. (Before metropolitan areas were redefined in 2003, the Des Moines metropolitan area only consisted of Polk, Dallas, and Warren counties.) Recently, Des Moines annexed certain parcels of land in the northeast, southeast, and southern corners of Des Moines, particularly areas which border the recent highway "bypass" that has been constructed.

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Suburbs
Des Moines's suburbs include Altoona, Ankeny, Bondurant, Carlisle, Clive, Grimes, Johnston, Norwalk, Pleasant Hill, Polk City, Urbandale, Waukee, West Des Moines, and Windsor Heights.

In 2003, Forbes magazine ranked the Des Moines metropolitan area 8th on its list of "Best Places For Business And Careers," based on the cost of doing business, housing affordability, educational attainment, crime rate, and the number of Ph.D.'s per 100,000 residents. [3]

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Demographics
As of the censusGR2 of 2000, there are 198,682 people, 80,504 households, and 48,704 families residing in the city. The population density is 1,012.0/km˛ (2,621.3/mi˛). There are 85,067 housing units at an average density of 433.3/km˛ (1,122.3/mi˛). The racial makeup of the city is 82.29% White, 8.07% Black or African American, 0.35% Native American, 3.50% Asian, 0.05% Pacific Islander, 3.52% from other races, and 2.23% from two or more races. 6.61% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race.

There are 80,504 households out of which 29.5% have children under the age of 18 living with them, 43.7% are married couples living together, 12.6% have a female householder with no husband present, and 39.5% are non-families. 31.9% of all households are made up of individuals and 10.2% have someone living alone who is 65 years of age or older. The average household size is 2.39 and the average family size is 3.04.

In the city the population is spread out with 24.8% under the age of 18, 10.6% from 18 to 24, 31.8% from 25 to 44, 20.4% from 45 to 64, and 12.4% who are 65 years of age or older. The median age is 34 years. For every 100 females there are 93.8 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there are 90.5 males.

The median income for a household in the city is $38,408, and the median income for a family is $46,590. Males have a median income of $31,712 versus $25,832 for females. The per capita income for the city is $19,467. 11.4% of the population and 7.9% of families are below the poverty line. Out of the total population, 14.9% of those under the age of 18 and 7.6% of those 65 and older are living below the poverty line.

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Government

Des Moines currently operates under a council-manager form of government. The council consists of a mayor (who, as of 2005, is Frank Cownie), two at-large members, and four members representing each of the city's four wards.

A plan to merge the governments of Des Moines and Polk County was rejected by voters during the November 2, 2004, election. The consolidated city-county government would have had a full-time mayor and a 15-member council that would have been divided among the city and its suburbs. Each suburb would have still retained its individual government but had the option to join the consolidated government at any time. Although a full merger was soundly rejected, many city and county departments and programs have been consolidated.

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Transportation
Most residents of Des Moines get around the region by car. Interstate 235 cuts through the city, and Interstate 35 and Interstate 80 both pass through the Des Moines metropolitan area. U.S. Highway 65 and Iowa Highway 5 form a freeway loop to the east and south of the city. U.S. Highways 6 and 69 and Iowa Highways 28, 141, and 163 are also important routes to and within the city.

Des Moines's public transit system, operated by the Des Moines Metropolitan Transit Authority, consists entirely of buses, including regular in-city routes and express and commuter buses to outlying suburban areas.

Downtown Des Moines features a 3.5 mile-long (5.6 km) skywalk system, allowing people to move between buildings without going out of doors.

Greyhound Bus Lines and Jefferson Lines run long-distance, inter-city bus routes to Des Moines. The nearest Amtrak train station is in Osceola, about 40 miles (64 km) south of Des Moines. Trains on the route that passes through Osceola, the California Zephyr, go east to Chicago, Illinois and as far west as Oakland, California.

The Des Moines International Airport (DSM), located in the southern part of Des Moines, on Fleur Drive, offers non-stop service to destinations within the United States, including to major hub airports such as Chicago O'Hare, Atlanta Hartsfield and Dallas-Ft. Worth International Airport. Despite its name, there are no direct flights, as of 2005, between the airport and destinations outside of the United States.

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Colleges and universities
AIB College of Business
College of Podiatric Medicine and Surgery
Des Moines University
Des Moines Area Community College
Drake University
Grand View College
Hamilton College
Mercy College of Health Sciences
Simpson College
William Penn University
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Culture
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Media
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AM radio stations
WOI-AM 640, NPR affiliate (generally talk)
KPSZ 940, Christian music and programming
WHO 1040, news, talk radio, University of Iowa sports
KWKY 1150, Christian talk, music
KRNT 1350, "Great Songs, Great Memories"
KXNO 1460, sports talk, Iowa State University sports
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FM radio stations
KJMC 89.3 "K-Jam" Urban Contemporary
WOI-FM 90.1, NPR Affiliate (Generally music) Classical, Jazz, Public Broadcasting
KJJY 92.5, country music
KIOA "Oldies 93.3", oldies
KGGO 94.9, classic rock
KHKI 97.3 "The Hawk", country music
KWQW 98.3 "Wow FM", talk radio (Formerly KRKQ 98 Rock)
KZZQ Positive Hits "Q99.5 KZZQ" Christian CHR
KMXD 100.3 "My 100", mixture of 1980s, 1990s, and current hits
KSTZ "Star 102.5," hot adult contemporary
KAZR "Lazer 103.3," hard rock music
KLTI "Lite 104.1," soft adult contemporary
KCCQ 105.1 "Channel Q," Modern Rock
KDRB "106.3 the Bus," blend of classic hits, similar to Jack FM (changed from its previous hip-hop and R&B format on April 1, 2005)
KNWI 107.1 "Life 107.1" Christian Music
KKDM 107.5 "Kiss 107 FM," Contemporary Hits/Top-40
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Television stations
WOI 5, local ABC affiliate
KCCI 8, local CBS affiliate
KDIN 11, local PBS member station, Iowa Public Television network flagship
WHO 13, local NBC affiliate
KDSM 17 local Fox affiliate
KPWB 23 local WB affiliate
KFPX 39 local i affiliate
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Print
Des Moines Register, newspaper
Cityview, an alternative weekly newspaper
Des Moines Business Record
Juice, a weekly publication from the Register targeted toward the 25- to 34-year-old demographic

Points of interest
Iowa State Fair and Grounds
Downtown Attractions
Iowa State Capitol, featuring a genuine gold-covered dome
The Iowa Events Center
East Village Shopping Area
Science Center of Iowa and IMAX theatre Court Ave
Des Moines Botanical Center
Downtown Farmer's Market
Principal Riverwalk
Des Moines Art Festival
Des Moines Civic Center
Hoyt Sherman Place
Sherman Hill Neighborhood, historic district just north of downtown
Des Moines Art Center, designed by I.M. Pei and other international architects
The Blank Park Zoo
Arie den Boer Arboretum
Lilac Arboretum and Children's Forest
Merle Hay Mall, one of Iowa's oldest and largest shopping malls
Terrace Hill, home of the governor of Iowa
Jordan Creek Town Center, central Iowa's newest and largest mall
Adventureland, a regional theme park
Prairie Meadows, a casino and thoroughbred raceway in Altoona
Valley West Mall
Southridge Mall
Recreational Trail System
Grays Lake Park
Saylorville Lake
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Sports
The Iowa Cubs baseball team of the Pacific Coast League, the Class AAA affiliate of the major-league Chicago Cubs. They play their home games at Principal Park (formerly Sec Taylor Stadium).
The Des Moines Dragons basketball team played in the IBL from 1997-1998 season until the end of the 2000-2001 season. They played at Veterans Memorial Auditorium.
The Des Moines Menace soccer team plays in Waukee.
The Des Moines Buccaneers of the United States Hockey League play at 95KGGO Arena (formerly the Metro Ice Sports Arena and Buccaneer Arena) in neighboring Urbandale.
The Iowa Stars of the American Hockey League play at Wells Fargo Arena (part of the Iowa Events Center).
The Iowa Barnstormers of the Arena Football League moved to New York in 2000 and are now the New York Dragons.
Drake University hosts the nationally known Drake Relays each April.

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Notable natives
Bill Bryson, author
Stephen Collins, actor
Thomas M. Disch, author
Rory Freeman, star on television show Survivor: Vanuatu
Tana Goertz, star on television show The Apprentice 3
David Anthony Higgins, actor, Malcolm in the Middle
Steve Higgins, producer of Saturday Night Live
Cloris Leachman, actress
The McCaughey septuplets, the first surviving set of septuplets, were born in Des Moines to a couple from nearby Carlisle.
Kyle Orton, Chicago Bears quarterback (from nearby Altoona)
Chris Pirillo, television personality and technology figure
Brandon Routh, star of the upcoming film Superman Returns (from nearby Norwalk)
All of the members of Slipknot, especially Corey Taylor, a nu metal band.
Bill Stewart, well known jazz drummer with Pat Metheny Group.
Stephen Stucker, actor, best known for his role as the air traffic controller in the 1980 movie, Airplane!
Kevin Tapani, Major League Baseball player
Tionne "T-Boz" Watkins, member of the singing group, TLC.
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I had to give a non-fiction book report in elementary school, and got laughed at by everyone in the class for saying it wrong. Damn you, Dezz Moynezz.
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Thanks for all of the tips. And thanks to El Scorcho for taking the thread topic literally.
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Bring takeout from Oklahoma Joe's.

Problem solved.
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It's Duh Moyne.

The Cheesecake Factory in the Jordan Creek Mall is a pretty good standby, along with Joe's Crab Shack, and your wife will like the Gargantuan-ness of it, too.

Not too glamorous, but not too bad, either.

Des Moines is okay. I wouldn't go there for a great night on the town, though. Avoid Pumpers (don't know the new name) and you won't get your chest cavity caved in, or get shot, or get turned away at the door for being an amputee.
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Originally Posted by DarkestPhoenix
The Cheesecake Factory in the Jordan Creek Mall is a pretty good standby, along with Joe's Crab Shack, and your wife will like the Gargantuan-ness of it, too.
I still just don't understand people who insist on sticking with major chain restaurants. Tygan and his wife can eat at a Cheesecake Factory or Joe's Crab Shack in Kansas City, and they're going to be just like the Cheesecake Factories and Joe's Crab Shacks in a thousand other cities.

The whole fun of traveling is experiencing things that are unique to your destination. Otherwise, you might as well stay home.

Splash, by the way, is practically across the street from Tygan's hotel.
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mmmmmm Oklahoma Joe's
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I knew El Scorcho would step up to the plate.
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Damn, El Scorcho = Rand McNally.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Salty

The whole fun of traveling is experiencing things that are unique to your destination.
Then why the hell would you come to Des Moines?
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To see the world's biggest cheeto?
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Originally Posted by Mopower
Then why the hell would you come to Des Moines?
To escape Kansas City.

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