Penn Gillette: There Is No God (NPR)
11-22-05, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Pistol Pete
Not to be picky, but you still have not answered Deftone's question. Why not just deal with the subject directly?
Originally Posted by shoppingbear
OH! Hit me where it HURTS, mock the SMILEY FACES... 
Hopefully no one else is getting offended that I don't agree with Penn (not to mention, I generally don't put much stock in what an entertainment celebrity thinks... otherwise I'd have to listen to Tom Cruise and Madonna, just to be fair
). 
Almost everyone in this thread is discussing it without being derisive... at least we can count on you, Def, for that "I'm so much cooler/smarter/better than the person I disagree with" aspect, eh? EDITED because one of the guys emailed and said Deftones is offended enough to complain about me and my responses elsewhere on the 'net...
Like I said, sometimes it's hard to talk about stuff like this on a forum like this. 
Sorry to anyone else who was offended, none meant.
Originally Posted by shoppingbear
Honestly, I'm tempted, but it would take long posts, and long discussion, which would be frustrating if there were heaps of non-serious responses. Some like yourself seem to want a serious discussion, but from what I know of Def, he just wants a reason to make fun of someone. After thinking about it, I choose to not be that someone.
As for those who ask, How does this topic ever come up, in my experience the agnostics or athiests bring it up because they know I'm willing to discuss it (in REAL LIFE, at least.. ). I have a couple of athiests at work who honestly start debates/discussions on religion and Christianity on a regular basis. One of them says he likes the way I explain my viewpoint, and he likes the debate. Stuff like that happens to me all the time in real life.... usually on some day/evening/event where I'm hoping for nothing but light, fluffy conversation. Which is all I come to DVDTalk for, come to think of it. 
As for those who ask, How does this topic ever come up, in my experience the agnostics or athiests bring it up because they know I'm willing to discuss it (in REAL LIFE, at least..
). I have a couple of athiests at work who honestly start debates/discussions on religion and Christianity on a regular basis. One of them says he likes the way I explain my viewpoint, and he likes the debate. Stuff like that happens to me all the time in real life.... usually on some day/evening/event where I'm hoping for nothing but light, fluffy conversation. Which is all I come to DVDTalk for, come to think of it. 
11-22-05, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by movielib
There was so much of it and for so long that i just can't dismiss it so casually.
But OK, I'll judge Christianity by Jesus. Jesus said all who didn't believe in him would be sent to an everlasing place of torment. Call me crazy but I just can't get past that.
But OK, I'll judge Christianity by Jesus. Jesus said all who didn't believe in him would be sent to an everlasing place of torment. Call me crazy but I just can't get past that.
But he is giving EVERYONE the chance for eternal life. It is not an exclusive club where you have to jump thru hoops to get in. You just have to believe that the Son of God, who created everything, is the only way to be reconciled with God the Father. I know, it's so easy, yet so hard.
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11-22-05, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by WildcatLH
This thread doesn't need to be locked, but the posts of a certain member need to be deleted and that certain member needs to be banned.
11-22-05, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BadlyDrawnBoy
That's something the lord would not approve of.
Come on, God never had a problem with people being naked (see Genesis). He had a problem with Adam lusting after Eve, well before they were married!
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11-22-05, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Deftones
Because she can't . It's an unwinable argument. She's only singled me out because of something that happened with her pookie bear somewhere else 
This is just code for I have no valid argument and that I can't back up my "faith" based position on religion. Let's face it, you've got nothing. This has nothing to do with making fun. You confuse my attack on your stance as that. 
It's nothing more than an attempt to get you to back up what you said. You can't even do that, though. You are the one laughing at what I said. I am honestly trying to find out what evidence you believe that the Bible is more than a collection of stories passed down from generation to generation. Until you can provide concrete proof that it isn't, your position has no validity.
. It's an unwinable argument. She's only singled me out because of something that happened with her pookie bear somewhere else This is just code for I have no valid argument and that I can't back up my "faith" based position on religion.
Let's face it, you've got nothing. This has nothing to do with making fun. You confuse my attack on your stance as that. It's nothing more than an attempt to get you to back up what you said. You can't even do that, though. You are the one laughing at what I said. I am honestly trying to find out what evidence you believe that the Bible is more than a collection of stories passed down from generation to generation. Until you can provide concrete proof that it isn't, your position has no validity.
11-22-05, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
Come on, God never had a problem with people being naked (see Genesis).
11-22-05, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MJKTool
I wish Geoff knew what kind a shit you talk about him at the Island.
Now you're just making shit up. I know you want to go out in a blaze of glory, but really - you're just embarrassing yourself.
11-22-05, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mrpayroll
Come on, God never had a problem with people being naked (see Genesis). He had a problem with Adam lusting after Eve, well before they were married!
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11-22-05, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bandoman
Now you're just making shit up. I know you want to go out in a blaze of glory, but really - you're just embarrassing yourself.
