Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > General Discussions > Other Talk
Reload this Page >

Penn Gillette: There Is No God (NPR)

Other Talk "Otterville"

Penn Gillette: There Is No God (NPR)

Old 11-22-05, 01:11 PM
  #151  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Malvern, PA
Posts: 5,010
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Pistol Pete
Maybe because they really don't want to be proselytized? Here's a typical exchange:

CHRISTIAN: I think that intelligent design should be taught in school.
ATHEIST: Religion belongs in theology class. Science belongs in science class.
CHRISTIAN: But evolution is a theory. Shouldn't alternatives be taught as well?
ATHEIST: Alternative scientifc theories, sure. ID is not science.
CHRISTIAN: Sure it is. Besides you can't prove evolution. Like religion, science requires a level of faith.
ATHEIST: Scientific theories are not conclusively proved. The models are built to match the best available evidence. New evidence may yield an new model. There is no faith involved.
CHRISTIAN: You are just anti-christian!
ATHEIST: ???

or more commonly in the south:

CHRISTIAN: Have you been saved.
ATHEIST: (oh boy) From what?
CHRISTIAN: Eternal damnation! You do realize that you immotal soul will burn in hell unless you are saved! Let me tell you about Jesus...
ATHEIST: No thanks. I have my own beliefs.
CHRISTIAN: But Jesus can save you!
ATHEIST: I'm really not interested. Please leave me alone.
CHRISTIAN: You will BURN! Do you want that?
ATHEIST: ???


Religion, like politics, should never be discussed in polite company.


edit - Fixed spelling.
I agree with both these convos. However, I have also experienced a third convo when with a group of people (which I as an agnostic do not partake):

(Something on TV refers to religion.)
ATHEIST: Wow, some people are stupid. How could anyone believe in an imaginary guy in the sky?
CHRISTIAN: (either keeps silent or leaves)

OR...

(Something on TV refers to religion.)
ATHEIST: Wow, some people are stupid. How could anyone believe in an imaginary guy in the sky?
CHRISTIAN: Well, I believe in God.
ATHEIST: Oh.
(Awkward silence until one of them leaves.)
Goldblum is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:11 PM
  #152  
Arse Member
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 226
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by MJKTool
On the 7th day God created the Island. The Island became full of assholes, and thus like in Noah's day God was saddened. So God proceeded to expose the Island for the evil that it is, and he proceeded to strike a blow against it and the fucks that lived in it!

I seeee you, you motherfuckers!
hey you're still an asshole. good for you.
dulli is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:11 PM
  #153  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Posts: 15,108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Bandoman
You are acting just as juvenile here as you did there.
Chicken shit. Why did you just edit your post. You know you called me ass. No balls Bando.
MJKTool is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:12 PM
  #154  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Looking for my pants...
Posts: 2,029
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by MJKTool
On the 7th day God created the Island. The Island became full of assholes, and thus like in Noah's day God was saddened. So God proceeded to expose the Island for the evil that it is, and he proceeded to strike a blow against it and the fucks that lived in it!

I seeee you, you motherfuckers!
Yes, that's how it goes I hear....
La Bella Rose is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:12 PM
  #155  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Posts: 15,108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by dulli
hey you're still an asshole. good for you.
And you're dad still sucks the cock. Good for him whoever the fuck you are.
MJKTool is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:13 PM
  #156  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Work. Or commuting. Certainly not at home.
Posts: 17,816
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by MJKTool
On the 7th day God created the Island. The Island became full of assholes, and thus like in Noah's day God was saddened. So God proceeded to expose the Island for the evil that it is, and he proceeded to strike a blow against it and the fucks that lived in it!

I seeee you, you motherfuckers!
And you call us immature...
wildcatlh is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:13 PM
  #157  
Enormous Genitals
 
Bandoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: a small cottage on a cul de sac in the lower pits of hell.
Posts: 35,414
Received 312 Likes on 190 Posts
Originally Posted by MJKTool
Chicken shit. Why did you just edit your post. You know you called me ass. No balls Bando.

You're not worth getting suspended over. You know how I feel about you, no need to get everyone else involved. But you don't really give a shit about anyone else, it seems.
Bandoman is online now  
Old 11-22-05, 01:14 PM
  #158  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 24,516
Received 97 Likes on 64 Posts
GuessWho is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:15 PM
  #159  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Words
Posts: 28,204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by MJKTool
On the 7th day God created the Island. The Island became full of assholes, and thus like in Noah's day God was saddened. So God proceeded to expose the Island for the evil that it is, and he proceeded to strike a blow against it and the fucks that lived in it!

I seeee you, you motherfuckers!
Uhm....you can't talk about that over here, per geoff.

btw....this is a personal attack.

kthanksbye.

-p
NotThatGuy is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:15 PM
  #160  
DVD Talk Hero
 
das Monkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 35,881
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
das Monkey is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:15 PM
  #161  
DVD Talk Reviewer
 
Pointyskull's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Formerly known as "12thmonkey"/Frankfort, IL
Posts: 7,712
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Originally Posted by MJKTool
And you're dad still sucks the cock. Good for him whoever the fuck you are.
In before the ban...........
Pointyskull is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:16 PM
  #162  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Posts: 15,108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Bandoman
You're not worth getting suspended over. You know how I feel about you, no need to get everyone else involved. But you don't really give a shit about anyone else, it seems.
Well I certainly dont give a shit about you or your little race of misfits
MJKTool is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:16 PM
  #163  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 3,835
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This thread is making me cry.
uberjoe is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:16 PM
  #164  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Posts: 15,108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by pedagogue
Uhm....you can't talk about that over here, per geoff.

btw....this is a personal attack.

kthanksbye.

-p
Ask me if I give a shit!

gosuckadickbye
MJKTool is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:17 PM
  #165  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MA
Posts: 17,003
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I think I would like this thread better if christians and atheists were calling eachother names...
Rockmjd23 is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:18 PM
  #166  
Guest
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Glendale, next to L.A.
Posts: 18,486
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by maxfisher
I should've put a disclaimer on my post. I wasn't trying to disprove Christianity, and was just speaking to the subgroup of Christians who insist every single word of the Bible is 100% factually correct. I was raised in a church that taught that the Bible was written by God and was completely devoid of human error on any level. Their refusal to admit ANY level of human influence on the Bible was the main thing that drove me away from that particular church.

And to answer your courtroom question: if each of the 3 witnesses reported the cars being different colors, yes, I'd say one or more of them was false. They might be correct in stating who was at fault, but there would obviously be some human error involved in their testimonies, which was the only point I was going for in my previous post.
I am a Christian and I believe 100% that the Bible is NOT fully accurate. How can it be? It was written a long time ago, by a lot of different people, sometimes many years after the actual events happened. They didn't have MySpace back then where they could update their lives every minute of every day.

That being said, to say (not saying you said this) that the Bible has to be 100% accurate to be the Word of God is nitpicking. God is in control of EVERYTHING (Good and Bad). He's not up there in the clouds, worrying that some minor details in the Bible are not 100% accurate.

The message of Jesus Christ is the only thing that is important for every person that is born. There is nothing inaccurate about his teachings, they were relevant then and they are relevant now. The rest of the Bible is just a history lesson of mankind, which leads up to Jesus' message that God (The Creator) desires to reconcile with everyone that He created.


Chris
mrpayroll is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:18 PM
  #167  
BDB
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Palm Springs and Los Angeles
Posts: 21,589
Received 33 Likes on 33 Posts
in the words of Sir Robert Williams

Jesus in a camper van He said sorry to
Leave you but I've done all I can
I suppose even the son of God
Gets it hard sometimes
Especially when he goes around
Saying I am the way
BDB is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:18 PM
  #168  
DVD Talk Reviewer
 
Pointyskull's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Formerly known as "12thmonkey"/Frankfort, IL
Posts: 7,712
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Originally Posted by MJKTool
Well I certainly dont give a shit about you or your little race of misfits
Bando has a little race of misfits? COOL!
Oh wait, he was talking about us..
Pointyskull is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:18 PM
  #169  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: At the beach
Posts: 6,090
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 12thmonkey
In before the ban...........
Thats what he wants anyway.

He said that he was "through with this place".

Yet I dont know why he wont leave.
happycamper is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:18 PM
  #170  
DVD Talk Hero
 
das Monkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 35,881
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
uberjoe

This thread is making me cry.
Typical Exchange:

Person 1: This thread makes Baby Jesus cry.
Person 2: There is no Jesus, you fucking idiot!
Person 1: You're going to BURN IN HELL!
Person 2: Go shove a unicorn up your ass.
Person 1: Go marry a goat.

das
das Monkey is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:18 PM
  #171  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Gil Jawetz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: I was here but I disappear
Posts: 8,407
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Kittydreamer
So as far as why I feel that the bible is true accurrate is this....countries, peoples, books, records, pictures and campfire tales all tell the same stories. Sure a few words here and there are different and maybe a few names have been changed but over all, it's the same. Do you really think that many people over that many mile through all of those years are wrong? I sure don't. It's a personal belief that I hold deep in my heart. I just wish I could share the feeling with you.

Ah, the 50,000,000 Elvis Fans Can't Be Wrong theory!


I absolutely think you should be able to believe whatever you want, religion or no, but I don't think that that's a good reason that you gave. If I got a bunch of people to spend two thousand years travelling around the world holding people's heads under water until they believed that squirrels are psychic, that wouldn't be a good reason for someone else to hold up as proof that it's true. The best reason that you can give is that you, in your heart, believe it to be true, independent of what anyone else thinks. If every person on earth suddenly renounced the bible all at once but you still felt that it was true, then you'd be a real believer.
Gil Jawetz is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:20 PM
  #172  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Kittydreamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 13,605
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
*strips naked and runs through the thread*
Kittydreamer is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:20 PM
  #173  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Posts: 15,108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by happycamper
Thats what he wants anyway.

He said that he was "through with this place".

Yet I dont know why he wont leave.
Didnt I tell you to shut up saggy?
MJKTool is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:20 PM
  #174  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 3,835
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by das Monkey
Typical Exchange:

Person 1: This thread makes Baby Jesus cry.
Person 2: There is no Jesus, you fucking idiot!
Person 1: You're going to BURN IN HELL!
Person 2: Go shove a unicorn up your ass.
Person 1: Go marry a goat.

das
uberjoe is offline  
Old 11-22-05, 01:21 PM
  #175  
Enormous Genitals
 
Bandoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: a small cottage on a cul de sac in the lower pits of hell.
Posts: 35,414
Received 312 Likes on 190 Posts
Originally Posted by das Monkey
Typical Exchange:
Person 1: Go marry a goat.

das
I find this intruiging...
Bandoman is online now  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.