Penn Gillette: There Is No God (NPR)
11-22-05, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Pistol Pete
Maybe because they really don't want to be proselytized? Here's a typical exchange:
CHRISTIAN: I think that intelligent design should be taught in school.
ATHEIST: Religion belongs in theology class. Science belongs in science class.
CHRISTIAN: But evolution is a theory. Shouldn't alternatives be taught as well?
ATHEIST: Alternative scientifc theories, sure. ID is not science.
CHRISTIAN: Sure it is. Besides you can't prove evolution. Like religion, science requires a level of faith.
ATHEIST: Scientific theories are not conclusively proved. The models are built to match the best available evidence. New evidence may yield an new model. There is no faith involved.
CHRISTIAN: You are just anti-christian!
ATHEIST: ???
or more commonly in the south:
CHRISTIAN: Have you been saved.
ATHEIST: (oh boy) From what?
CHRISTIAN: Eternal damnation! You do realize that you immotal soul will burn in hell unless you are saved! Let me tell you about Jesus...
ATHEIST: No thanks. I have my own beliefs.
CHRISTIAN: But Jesus can save you!
ATHEIST: I'm really not interested. Please leave me alone.
CHRISTIAN: You will BURN! Do you want that?
ATHEIST: ???
Religion, like politics, should never be discussed in polite company.
edit - Fixed spelling.
CHRISTIAN: I think that intelligent design should be taught in school.
ATHEIST: Religion belongs in theology class. Science belongs in science class.
CHRISTIAN: But evolution is a theory. Shouldn't alternatives be taught as well?
ATHEIST: Alternative scientifc theories, sure. ID is not science.
CHRISTIAN: Sure it is. Besides you can't prove evolution. Like religion, science requires a level of faith.
ATHEIST: Scientific theories are not conclusively proved. The models are built to match the best available evidence. New evidence may yield an new model. There is no faith involved.
CHRISTIAN: You are just anti-christian!
ATHEIST: ???
or more commonly in the south:
CHRISTIAN: Have you been saved.
ATHEIST: (oh boy) From what?
CHRISTIAN: Eternal damnation! You do realize that you immotal soul will burn in hell unless you are saved! Let me tell you about Jesus...
ATHEIST: No thanks. I have my own beliefs.
CHRISTIAN: But Jesus can save you!
ATHEIST: I'm really not interested. Please leave me alone.
CHRISTIAN: You will BURN! Do you want that?
ATHEIST: ???
Religion, like politics, should never be discussed in polite company.
edit - Fixed spelling.
(Something on TV refers to religion.)
ATHEIST: Wow, some people are stupid. How could anyone believe in an imaginary guy in the sky?
CHRISTIAN: (either keeps silent or leaves)
OR...
(Something on TV refers to religion.)
ATHEIST: Wow, some people are stupid. How could anyone believe in an imaginary guy in the sky?
CHRISTIAN: Well, I believe in God.
ATHEIST: Oh.
(Awkward silence until one of them leaves.)
11-22-05, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MJKTool
On the 7th day God created the Island. The Island became full of assholes, and thus like in Noah's day God was saddened. So God proceeded to expose the Island for the evil that it is, and he proceeded to strike a blow against it and the fucks that lived in it!
I seeee you, you motherfuckers!
I seeee you, you motherfuckers!
11-22-05, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MJKTool
On the 7th day God created the Island. The Island became full of assholes, and thus like in Noah's day God was saddened. So God proceeded to expose the Island for the evil that it is, and he proceeded to strike a blow against it and the fucks that lived in it!
I seeee you, you motherfuckers!
I seeee you, you motherfuckers!
11-22-05, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MJKTool
On the 7th day God created the Island. The Island became full of assholes, and thus like in Noah's day God was saddened. So God proceeded to expose the Island for the evil that it is, and he proceeded to strike a blow against it and the fucks that lived in it!
I seeee you, you motherfuckers!
I seeee you, you motherfuckers!
11-22-05, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MJKTool
Chicken shit. Why did you just edit your post. You know you called me ass. No balls Bando.
You're not worth getting suspended over. You know how I feel about you, no need to get everyone else involved. But you don't really give a shit about anyone else, it seems.
11-22-05, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MJKTool
On the 7th day God created the Island. The Island became full of assholes, and thus like in Noah's day God was saddened. So God proceeded to expose the Island for the evil that it is, and he proceeded to strike a blow against it and the fucks that lived in it!
I seeee you, you motherfuckers!
I seeee you, you motherfuckers!
btw....this is a personal attack.
kthanksbye.
-p
11-22-05, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bandoman
You're not worth getting suspended over. You know how I feel about you, no need to get everyone else involved. But you don't really give a shit about anyone else, it seems.
11-22-05, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by maxfisher
I should've put a disclaimer on my post. I wasn't trying to disprove Christianity, and was just speaking to the subgroup of Christians who insist every single word of the Bible is 100% factually correct. I was raised in a church that taught that the Bible was written by God and was completely devoid of human error on any level. Their refusal to admit ANY level of human influence on the Bible was the main thing that drove me away from that particular church.
And to answer your courtroom question: if each of the 3 witnesses reported the cars being different colors, yes, I'd say one or more of them was false. They might be correct in stating who was at fault, but there would obviously be some human error involved in their testimonies, which was the only point I was going for in my previous post.
And to answer your courtroom question: if each of the 3 witnesses reported the cars being different colors, yes, I'd say one or more of them was false. They might be correct in stating who was at fault, but there would obviously be some human error involved in their testimonies, which was the only point I was going for in my previous post.
That being said, to say (not saying you said this) that the Bible has to be 100% accurate to be the Word of God is nitpicking. God is in control of EVERYTHING (Good and Bad). He's not up there in the clouds, worrying that some minor details in the Bible are not 100% accurate.
The message of Jesus Christ is the only thing that is important for every person that is born. There is nothing inaccurate about his teachings, they were relevant then and they are relevant now. The rest of the Bible is just a history lesson of mankind, which leads up to Jesus' message that God (The Creator) desires to reconcile with everyone that He created.
Chris
11-22-05, 01:18 PM
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in the words of Sir Robert Williams
Jesus in a camper van He said sorry to
Leave you but I've done all I can
I suppose even the son of God
Gets it hard sometimes
Especially when he goes around
Saying I am the way
Jesus in a camper van He said sorry to
Leave you but I've done all I can
I suppose even the son of God
Gets it hard sometimes
Especially when he goes around
Saying I am the way
11-22-05, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MJKTool
Well I certainly dont give a shit about you or your little race of misfits
Oh wait, he was talking about us..
11-22-05, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 12thmonkey
In before the ban........... 
He said that he was "through with this place".
Yet I dont know why he wont leave.
11-22-05, 01:18 PM
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• uberjoe •
This thread is making me cry.
This thread is making me cry.
Person 1: This thread makes Baby Jesus cry.
Person 2: There is no Jesus, you fucking idiot!
Person 1: You're going to BURN IN HELL!
Person 2: Go shove a unicorn up your ass.
Person 1: Go marry a goat.
das
11-22-05, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Kittydreamer
So as far as why I feel that the bible is true accurrate is this....countries, peoples, books, records, pictures and campfire tales all tell the same stories. Sure a few words here and there are different and maybe a few names have been changed but over all, it's the same. Do you really think that many people over that many mile through all of those years are wrong? I sure don't. It's a personal belief that I hold deep in my heart. I just wish I could share the feeling with you.
Ah, the 50,000,000 Elvis Fans Can't Be Wrong theory!
I absolutely think you should be able to believe whatever you want, religion or no, but I don't think that that's a good reason that you gave. If I got a bunch of people to spend two thousand years travelling around the world holding people's heads under water until they believed that squirrels are psychic, that wouldn't be a good reason for someone else to hold up as proof that it's true. The best reason that you can give is that you, in your heart, believe it to be true, independent of what anyone else thinks. If every person on earth suddenly renounced the bible all at once but you still felt that it was true, then you'd be a real believer.
11-22-05, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by das Monkey
Typical Exchange:
Person 1: This thread makes Baby Jesus cry.
Person 2: There is no Jesus, you fucking idiot!
Person 1: You're going to BURN IN HELL!
Person 2: Go shove a unicorn up your ass.
Person 1: Go marry a goat.
das
Person 1: This thread makes Baby Jesus cry.
Person 2: There is no Jesus, you fucking idiot!
Person 1: You're going to BURN IN HELL!
Person 2: Go shove a unicorn up your ass.
Person 1: Go marry a goat.
das
