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Old 11-10-05, 02:11 AM
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Did I break any laws? Motorcycle/Schoolbus incident

So I'm on my motorcycle this afternoon on my way to a friend's house. I'm in a subdivision stuck behind a schoolbus. Schoolbus keeps stopping and unloading kids, flashing yellow/red lights, all that. I know damn well you aren't supposed to pass a bus with flashing lights. Think of the children.

Well, I am getting tired of being stuck behind this bus. So I take advantage of my motorcycle status. I switch off the moto and dismount. Walking alongside the moto, I push it up on the sidewalk and WALK past the schoolbus. At this point, keep in mind I am doing nothing more than pushing an inantimate object on a sidewalk. It could have been a lawnmower or a bicycle or a Rubiks cube. Whatever. I remain on the sidewalk and get a couple of houses past the bus. Then I push the moto back onto the street, mount up, start up, and ride away.

Well, this pisses off the bus driver because he hunts me down in the subdivision as I am parking. Stops and tells me, "Next time you do that I am going to get your license plate number and report you to the police. That was illegal." I just nod in a yes sir I understand manner. I didn't want to make any waves since I knew I might have been in a gray area to begin with.

Could I have just waited it out behind this schoolbus all the way to my destination? Sure. Did I do anything wrong? Doubtful. Were children in danger? Hardly.

I ask the forum, did I do anything wrong? Was the bus driver just being overzealous? Am I an impatient asshole? Should I have pissed on his bus?
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Here's the statute:

545.066. PASSING A SCHOOL BUS; OFFENSE. (a) An
operator on a highway, when approaching from either direction a
school bus stopped on the highway to receive or discharge a student:
(1) shall stop before reaching the school bus when the
bus is operating a visual signal as required by Section 547.701;
and
(2) may not proceed until:
(A) the school bus resumes motion;
(B) the operator is signaled by the bus driver to
proceed; or
(C) the visual signal is no longer actuated.
(b) An operator on a highway having separate roadways is not
required to stop:
(1) for a school bus that is on a different roadway;
or
(2) if on a controlled-access highway, for a school
bus that is stopped:
(A) in a loading zone that is a part of or
adjacent to the highway; and
(B) where pedestrians are not permitted to cross
the roadway.
(c) An offense under this section is a misdemeanor
punishable by a fine of not less than $200 or more than $1,000,
except that the offense is:
(1) a Class A misdemeanor if the person causes serious
bodily injury to another; or
(2) a state jail felony if the person has been
previously convicted under Subdivision (1).
(d) The court may order that the driver's license of a
person convicted of a second or subsequent offense under this
section be suspended for not longer than six months beginning on the
date of conviction. In this subsection, "driver's license" has the
meaning assigned by Chapter 521.
(e) If a person does not pay the previously assessed fine or
costs on a conviction under this section, or is determined by the
court to have insufficient resources or income to pay a fine or
costs on a conviction under this section, the court may order the
person to perform community service. The court shall set the number
of hours of service under this subsection.
(f) For the purposes of this section:
(1) a highway is considered to have separate roadways
only if the highway has roadways separated by an intervening space
on which operation of vehicles is not permitted, a physical
barrier, or a clearly indicated dividing section constructed to
impede vehicular traffic; and
(2) a highway is not considered to have separate
roadways if the highway has roadways separated only by a left turn
lane.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995. Amended
by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 1438, 9, eff. Sept. 1, 1997; Acts
2003, 78th Leg., ch. 1325, 19.06(a), eff. Sept. 1, 2003.
It would all come down on how the judge inteprets the statute, if you went to court over it.
Old 11-10-05, 03:15 AM
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Pee in his butt.
Old 11-10-05, 03:50 AM
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If you walked your bike far enough, i think everything should be ok.

A warning from a officer present on scene at most...

but if the bus rev's at you, its fair game to race him.
Old 11-10-05, 08:06 AM
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I'd think the key word in the statute would be 'operator'. Once your bike was turned off, you're no longer an operator, hence the statute doesn't apply to you. Look at it this way: if you were drunk and a short way from your house and decided to walk your bike home, could a cop ticket you for drunk driving?
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Should have done a wheelie past the bus...

Actually pretty smart idea...walking the cycle past the bus. I'd say you are fine. But thats my interpretation.

Some bus drivers love the control they think they have.
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I once got reamed by a school bus driver because I rode my bicycle past the bus -- on the sidewalk.

Bus drivers make about $8 an hour and are usually huge losers that can't get any other job. This is their ONE piece of power in the world and sometimes it goes to their heads.


On question: when you actually passed the bus, was the "STOP" sign out or in. If in, you can absolutely pass them.
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... there's probably a law prohibiting pushing a motorized vehicle on a pedestrian walkway ...
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I had a boss that rode a scooter to work that did things like this. He would get stopped at a red light, get off his scooter, walk it across the crosswalk, and take off.

9 times of of 10, a cop will side with a bus driver when it comes to passing a stopped school bus. A court may think otherwise, but if push came to shove, you'd definitely get a ticket.
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Originally Posted by BradJ
... there's probably a law prohibiting pushing a motorized vehicle on a pedestrian walkway ...
Party pooper.
Old 11-10-05, 09:39 AM
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It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong to me. The bus driver just has a small wee wee and has to flex his authority at you to feel like a man.

I haven't seen a law in any state where it is illegal to WALK past a stopped school bus.

If it were possible to blanace your car on your nose and walk down the sidewalk past the school bus, that would be fine too (as long as the car's engine was off)
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It might be illegal to push your motorcycle on the sidewalk, but I'd have a hard time believing you could get in trouble for the passing the bus part.

What kind of bike are you riding that to get off an push is no big deal?
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I would say that what you did was perfectly legal. But that's just because it makes sense to me. Next time, I say you just put a banana in his tailpipe.
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What the bus driver should have done was pull over after picking up the kids and allowed you to pass.
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Originally Posted by Numanoid
I once got reamed by a school bus driver because I rode my bicycle past the bus -- on the sidewalk.
Lucky you...I only got a peck on the cheek.
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Originally Posted by 4KRG
It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong to me. The bus driver just has a small wee wee and has to flex his authority at you to feel like a man.
Yeah, what he said.

I read your story to my mom and she thought it pretty "shitty" of the bus driver to give you grief over it.
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Well, this pisses off the bus driver because he hunts me down in the subdivision as I am parking.
Personally, I would report him. If he still had kids on the bus and he went off route to hunt you down I'm sure that's a violation of the rules they work under. Even if he didn't have kids on the bus it's not their personal property to do w/ as they please. It doesn't seem like a person w/ this type of attitude is someone you want around kids on a regular basis anyway.

Also why didn't you pass him when he was driving between stops? Do you mean to say he had the flashers on all the time? Seems like that would be against the rules as well.

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You got off lucky. He could have opened the doors and set his small army of ravenous zombie schoolkids on you.
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To the people who are sating it's illegal to push a motorcycle on the sidewalk, what do you do if you run out of gas? You can't very well walk it in the road.

Not trying to be a smartass . . . genuinely curious.
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Originally Posted by talemyn
To the people who are sating it's illegal to push a motorcycle on the sidewalk, what do you do if you run out of gas? You can't very well walk it in the road.

Not trying to be a smartass . . . genuinely curious.
You curb it and leave to get gas, or in a residential area ask a homeowner if you can leave it in a driveway.....
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I vote for "impatient asshole".....wait, no poll?

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Originally Posted by Duran
It might be illegal to push your motorcycle on the sidewalk, but I'd have a hard time believing you could get in trouble for the passing the bus part.

What kind of bike are you riding that to get off an push is no big deal?
I have a Honda Nighthawk 750. It's not that big a deal to push it being that I am 6'1" and 200 pounds.

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Well, this pisses off the bus driver because he hunts me down in the subdivision as I am parking. Stops and tells me, "Next time you do that I am going to get your license plate number and report you to the police. That was illegal." I respond, "Your mom's illegal." So the bus driver gets even more pissed and tells me, "Oh, you're goin' down now, mister!" So I counter with, "That's what she said."
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Originally Posted by DRG
Well, this pisses off the bus driver because he hunts me down in the subdivision as I am parking. Stops and tells me, "Next time you do that I am going to get your license plate number and report you to the police. That was illegal." I respond, "Your mom's illegal." So the bus driver gets even more pissed and tells me, "Oh, you're goin' down now, mister!" So I counter with, "That's what she said."
Yeah that's what I SHOULD have said!
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The bus driver was definately on a power trip. I'm not sure if they could do anything even they got your license plate #s. I would think an officer would need to witness it and cite you. Can I write down the plate numbers of someone that runs a red light and turn him in for a ticket?

Originally Posted by Numanoid
I once got reamed by a school bus driver because I rode my bicycle past the bus -- on the sidewalk.
In many areas, riding a bicycle on the sidewalk is illegal.

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