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Old 10-21-05, 10:57 PM
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Question about Tokyo neighborhoods

I recently bet a friend of mine a small amount of cash when I told him that Akihabara was the 'Times Square' of Tokyo. He told me it was Shibuya which was verified by several websites. I ended up losing the bet.

Maybe I didn't go to Shibuya at night, but Akihabara seemed to be more like Times Square (with the street side vendors and all) over Shibuya.

I should have known better than to bet an animae fanboy.
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What is your question again?
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animae fanboy...
so you got to ask yourself who the real loser is
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Ah, sorry ... why is Shibuya considered the Times Square of Tokyo?
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I will ask my co-worker tomorrow. She is from Tokyo.
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Maybe Shibuya is considered the "Times Square" of Japan because it's a must see place when visiting Japan (or specifically the Tokyo area) just due to it's "wow" factor. It still floors me everytime I go there: the huge crowds, enormous TV screens on seemingly every building, etc.

Akihabara is more like the otaku capital these days, with the endless amounts of anime stores, electronics/computer stores, toy/hobby shops, cosplay establishments and porn stores. I love it there!
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Originally Posted by ChiTownAbs, Inc
Ah, sorry ... why is Shibuya considered the Times Square of Tokyo?

Abhay, email me and I will give you someone to contact... Have a friend who lives in Tokyo who you can contact via the bloomberg email system, if you don't have an answer by Monday. If you don't have access these days, I can dig out his regular email. Als, if you do have access you can message me there.
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I'll go with the "wow" factor quote about Shibuya.

I'm still trying to remember the name of the intersection that was huge. Hundreds of people would cross the street at every traffic light. I see it on tv and in movies and it looks like the same one we visited. Or is there more than one?
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Do a google search for pictures of Shibuya and Akihabara. There's no comparison. Shibuya has the electronic billboards and the lights. It's so much livelier with crowds of girls and boys. Akihabara is quite tame except the times when game consoles are being released. Even then there are no oversized TV screens to match the one in Shibuya. Akihabara is mostly boys -- anime geeks.
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I'm still trying to remember the name of the intersection that was huge. Hundreds of people would cross the street at every traffic light. I see it on tv and in movies and it looks like the same one we visited. Or is there more than one?
I don't know the name, but yeah, you are thinking of the main intersection that you see as soon as you walk out of the train station. That's the one they show in the movies, etc. It's jaw dropping when you first go outside of the station.

Akihabara is big and crowded, but really it's just a bunch of stores. They have a new Yodobashi Camera there that just opened thats pretty incredible though. It takes up nearly a whole city block. Amazing store.
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Pokemon.
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Gotta catch 'em all?
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Originally Posted by cultshock
They have a new Yodobashi Camera there that just opened thats pretty incredible though. It takes up nearly a whole city block. Amazing store.
Tokyo is one of those places I don't want to visit, because I'll never want to leave. Thanks for reinforcing this for me.
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Originally Posted by Buford T Pusser
I'll go with the "wow" factor quote about Shibuya.

I'm still trying to remember the name of the intersection that was huge. Hundreds of people would cross the street at every traffic light. I see it on tv and in movies and it looks like the same one we visited. Or is there more than one?

It's called "Scramble Crossing" or "Scramble Intersection".

Also, Akihabara is just electronic city - a place to buy electronics. that's it. Times Square would be Shibuya or Shinjuku. Definitely not Akihabara - which is not even close on a list of possibilities.
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Which area is SC/SI located?
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Originally Posted by Jason
Tokyo is one of those places I don't want to visit, because I'll never want to leave. Thanks for reinforcing this for me.
It's really tough to leave, let me tell you. I've been away from there for less than a week now, and I'm already going through withdrawl.

EDIT: Holy crap, what happened to Buford? (yeah I know, don't ask)
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Off topic, since I can add anything of fact to this discussion since I haven't been to either place.....

But whats the cost of living in Tokyo, especially close to Shibuya? Is it compared to lets say, NY or Socal which cost of living is off the charts, or is it more cost friendly? Just curious.

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Tokyo happens to be the most expensive city in the world. I personally fly there every year for work and I can tell you that for one to live decently in Tokyo (especially near the neighborhoods of Minato-ku, Omotesando, Shinjuku or Shibuya), one should be earning at least $50,000 a year.

Which explains why you see almost all "kaishains" or company men dozing off in trains as their commute to Tokyo from wherever they came from starts very, very early in the day and end late in the night. These people usually live an hour or more outside of the city, since it is cheaper to live outside of Tokyo.

Just to give you an example: a Romain lettuce may cost you $4-6 each. In Tokyo, this lettuce is cut into 4 and sold in quarters. A 1/4 of this lettuce would cost you $6.00!!!
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Thanks Cardiac161, this is great info.

Well my local Safeway has heads of lettuce for $1.50 with your Club Card.

Well looks like I will be visiting Tokyo on vacation only. I have recently thought about making a wild move and moving out of the country to experience life, different cultures, ect, and though about making this area a spot of interest. While I make pretty good money, I am am still a little ways from $50K, so it looks like I am passing, LOL. Thanks for the info though!!

How is the job market there? Is it tough, or are there lots of good jobs available?
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It's true that property is very expensive there, but the cost of lettuce example is a bit of an extreme one. I've found that overall, grocery prices are not that much higher compared to North America (this is based on what I've personally seen in grocery stores, and the opinion of my wife, who has shopped extensively in stores in both Japan and Cannada/US). Things like clothes, food, books/magazines, bus/train fare, electronics, automobiles are comparable if not in some cases cheaper. Of course, there are always the more exotic, exclusive, top name brand, etc things that seem more commonly seen for sale there, that may lead to the impression that buying things in Japan is expensive. But I'm talking about the more run of the mill, everyday kind of things. The one thing that I notice that is much more expensive in Japan are DVDs and CDs. (of course there are probably other examples, things that I have never shopped for there).

And it should be kept in mind that although property is expensive, salaries are also quite a bit higher on average (when I find out how much some of my wife's friends make, it blows my mind. Plus fat bonuses, twice a year). And borrowing money to buy or build (more common) a house is less costly. I wish I could have gotten an interest rate of little more than one percent when I bought a house. (an example from one friend, but I 'm not sure if thats the norm).
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Two movies from my trip (taken from my Olympus C-60, so quality isn't the greatest):

<a href=http://www.lat42.com/movies/shibuya.mov>Shibuya</a>

<a href=http://www.lat42.com/movies/akihabara.mov>Akihabara</a>

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