Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > General Discussions > Other Talk
Reload this Page >

Best way to learn Japanese?

Other Talk "Otterville" plus Religion/Politics

Best way to learn Japanese?

Old 10-08-05, 06:39 PM
  #1  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: The sprawling metropolis of Manassas Park, VA USA
Posts: 3,616
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Best way to learn Japanese?

Besides dropping yourself in the middle of Japan Peace Corps style, what is the best way to learn some Japanese? Would it be best to learn Kanji first? Or to study a dialect like Kansai?
Old 10-08-05, 07:02 PM
  #2  
Guest
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,699
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Go start some shit in Japan. Prison teaches fast.
Old 10-08-05, 07:12 PM
  #3  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: City of the lakers.. riots.. and drug dealing cops.. los(t) Angel(e)s. ca.
Posts: 54,199
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Lots and lots of Anime. ~*^_^*~
Old 10-08-05, 07:17 PM
  #4  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: LA
Posts: 1,388
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I've been looking to an online service to learn Japanese myself. www.yesjapan.com seems promising but so far I've just looked at some of their demo videos.
Old 10-08-05, 07:27 PM
  #5  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
tasha99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: the North
Posts: 5,888
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
Maybe you could take a class, or hire a tutor. You should learn kanji last, after hiragana and katakana. I learned Japanese by being an exchange student, and my comprehension improved dramatically when I got a Japanese boyfriend. Do what all cunning linguists do--date someone who speaks the language.

*Lol, I need to slow down. I was just about to ask what sort of project the Peace Corps would be doing in Japan.
Old 10-08-05, 07:37 PM
  #6  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: In the Universe.
Posts: 2,923
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Pimsleur. One of the most known language learning methods around. I'm sure you can purchase the cds on EBay for a heavy discount.
Old 10-08-05, 07:42 PM
  #7  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 5,416
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by jiggawhat
Pimsleur. One of the most known language learning methods around. I'm sure you can purchase the cds on EBay for a heavy discount.


Picked up the V1 tapes at B&N's bargain bin.
Old 10-08-05, 09:45 PM
  #8  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Maxflier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 11,803
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have the first set of Pimsleur CD's. They are indeed great, i just can never find enough time to stick with the lessons.
Old 10-08-05, 10:11 PM
  #9  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 17,205
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
How fluent do you want to be? I don't think you'll be at conversation level with a weekly course. You need to take college level Japanese classes everyday for 3+ years (with summers in Japan if possible). After the 3 years, you'll need nine months of intense reading study.

Anything short of that, and you'll just be sprouting phases like "One crepe please"
Old 10-08-05, 10:21 PM
  #10  
DVD Talk God
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Directionally Challenged (for DirecTV)
Posts: 123,178
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by ChiTownAbs, Inc
You need to take college level Japanese classes everyday for 3+ years (with summers in Japan if possible).

Speaking from experience, that's not enough. Like you alluded to - you really need to go there and immerse yourself in it.
Old 10-08-05, 10:31 PM
  #11  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 17,205
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Red Dog
Speaking from experience, that's not enough. Like you alluded to - you really need to go there and immerse yourself in it.
When I went to Japan last year, I met a guy around my age that is very fluent in Japanese. He started in high school and did a year abroad during his sophomore college (after taking 1 solid year of Japanese at the college level, plus the 3-4 years during high school). After undergrad, he spent 9 months doing reading study, and then some other things. When I met him, he was teaching a course in Japanese at a Kyoto University while doing research on his PhD from University of Chicago.

Today, he can converse very fluently in both languages. I just drooled over the employment possibilites for him ... and sadly, he wants to teach.
Old 10-08-05, 10:46 PM
  #12  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
tasha99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: the North
Posts: 5,888
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
You could join the army as a 98G, but while your recruiter will tell you, "Sure, you'll get Japanese," you'll really get Arabic. Sucker . . .

I speak from experience, having joined the army to further my Japanese studies and travels, only to end up in Korea (which I actually enjoyed after I quit being so pissed about it.)
Old 10-08-05, 10:48 PM
  #13  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 9,446
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The best way to learn any language is full emersion
Old 10-08-05, 10:55 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Milford
Posts: 989
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
definitely, Japanese grammar is quite backwards of english; highly doubtful you'd learn with ANY sort of fluency by yourself
Old 10-08-05, 10:58 PM
  #15  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Lighten up, Francis! (Funland)
Posts: 26,856
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ChiTownAbs, Inc

Anything short of that, and you'll just be sprouting phases like "One crepe please"


Japanese crepes.



My nine-year-old daughter wants to learn how to speak Japanese.

Any good instruction for that age?
Old 10-08-05, 11:42 PM
  #16  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 17,205
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
oh man ... i wonder if there are classes for kids that young ... maybe check the local japanese embassy.
Old 10-09-05, 12:50 AM
  #17  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
tasha99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: the North
Posts: 5,888
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
My town has a Japanese immersion school for K-5.
Old 10-09-05, 01:12 AM
  #18  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Heat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 16,701
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by CPT
Go start some shit in Japan. Prison teaches fast.
I was just about to suggest this. Yes, go to Japan and commit some crime - something that will put you in prison, but not for more than 3 to 5 years. I recommend carjacking.

Good luck!
Old 10-09-05, 01:42 AM
  #19  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 11,747
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by CPT
Go start some shit in Japan. Prison teaches fast.
He asked about learning Japanese, not turning Japanese.
Old 10-09-05, 01:54 AM
  #20  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Formerly known as "brizz"/kck
Posts: 23,425
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by lordwow
The best way to learn any language is full emersion
and if that fails, you could always go the full immersion route...
Old 10-09-05, 01:20 PM
  #21  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: union grove, wi
Posts: 1,536
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Which is harder, to read japanese or to speak it?
Old 10-09-05, 01:34 PM
  #22  
DVD Talk Hero
 
TomOpus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 33,879
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
Originally Posted by lordwow
The best way to learn any language is full emersion
Originally Posted by brizz
and if that fails, you could always go the full immersion route...
Old 10-09-05, 01:50 PM
  #23  
DVD Talk Special Edition
 
mapasu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: FL
Posts: 1,296
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
renshuu ikanakereba ikenai...
Old 10-09-05, 05:36 PM
  #24  
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 3,393
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by lordwow
The best way to learn any language is full emersion
What's the best way to learn spelling? lol
Old 10-09-05, 06:11 PM
  #25  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Working for Gizmonic Institute
Posts: 10,430
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by tasha99
Do what all cunning linguists do--date someone who speaks the language.
*move to adult?*












Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.