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Old 09-07-05, 09:51 AM
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Turning the ignition with the car already running?

Ok say you let some rather clueless person drive your car and they turn the key with the engine running. What kind of damage does that do?
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I think it will damage the starter if you do it long enough.

And I've been that clueless person on more than one occasion.
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It'll damage the starter motor if it happens too often.

Or, on most modern computer controlled cars, it'll do nothing at all, since the starter won't engage if the engine is already running.
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What do you mean damage? How else do you check to see if the car is already running?
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Try pressing the accelerator to see if the car is running. Duh

Unfortunately, I do that a couple times a year. Brain farts. What can I say? The car has been doing fine since 1999, so I'd say from experience, the rare slip-up won't kill the starter. Just try not to do it too often.
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Originally Posted by johnglass
And I've been that clueless person on more than one occasion.
Pfc. Garlick, is that you???
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I've done on more than one occassion.
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I admit I've done it a few time too. My truck's still running though.
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thats a relief, thanks!
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Originally Posted by talemyn
Pfc. Garlick, is that you???
It's a simple rule. If the engine's humming,.....it's already started.
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Originally Posted by talemyn
Pfc. Garlick, is that you???
First thing I thought of too.
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Originally Posted by Numanoid
How else do you check to see if the car is already running?
Check the tach. If it's on zero the car is not running.
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I did this for the first time since I've started driving almost 15 years ago. I totally felt like crap afterwards....
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Originally Posted by Phil L.
Check the tach. If it's on zero the car is not running.


Not all cars have a tach.
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i do it on purpose, because i like the sound
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My friend who has a 1990 Pontiac Bonneville, can take his keys out of the ignition while the car is running and it won't shut off.
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Originally Posted by zekeburger1979
My friend who has a 1990 Pontiac Bonneville, can take his keys out of the ignition while the car is running and it won't shut off.
Two ways to do this:
1. Broken ignition lock. The keys aren't supposed to come out with the car in run, but the locking mechanism to hold the key in there can break and the key will then slide right out.
2. Some alarms or auto car starter systems have this as a feature. You actually shut off the ignition and pull the key out and the car can continue to run. Generally called "Quick Stop" mode. Usually you have to press a button on the remote before turning the ignition off, and usually this comes with an interlock to prevent the engine going above idle or to prevent the gear shifter from working without the key in the lock. It also usually has a timer to turn off the engine after some amount of time anyway, in case you get delayed.
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Originally Posted by zekeburger1979
My friend who has a 1990 Pontiac Bonneville, can take his keys out of the ignition while the car is running and it won't shut off.
my sister's old old camry (late 80s) had this *feature* too
should be be driving down the road.. take a sharp turn
and the keys would fall out onto the floor
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Originally Posted by Otto
Two ways to do this:
1. Broken ignition lock. The keys aren't supposed to come out with the car in run, but the locking mechanism to hold the key in there can break and the key will then slide right out.
2. Some alarms or auto car starter systems have this as a feature. You actually shut off the ignition and pull the key out and the car can continue to run. Generally called "Quick Stop" mode. Usually you have to press a button on the remote before turning the ignition off, and usually this comes with an interlock to prevent the engine going above idle or to prevent the gear shifter from working without the key in the lock. It also usually has a timer to turn off the engine after some amount of time anyway, in case you get delayed.
3. Cars with aftermarket turbos usually have this feature to allow the turbo to cool down.
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I just did it today at the after filling up my brand new Accord. A $50 fill up.

I couldn't even feel the engine running like I could with my Taurus.
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No damage to the starter. Just an awful sound.
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Originally Posted by garolo


I just did it today at the after filling up my brand new Accord. A $50 fill up.

I couldn't even feel the engine running like I could with my Taurus.
you fill your car with gas while its running?
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Originally Posted by MJKTool
you fill your car with gas while its running?
Nah, I started it up to listen to my new XM radio while waited for the guy to come back with the CC slip to sign. After signing it and putting my wallet back in my pocket I "started" it back up again.
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New cars wont use keys to start the cars,just to open the doors.And you just push the on button to start the car.The buttons are iluminated so that you will know you have pushed it already.So cars are so damn silent these days you do make the mistake like that
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Originally Posted by talemyn
Pfc. Garlick, is that you???

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