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Old 09-03-05, 11:01 AM
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I would love to hear what evidence Kanye has to back up his statement that Bush doesn't care about blacks.
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MSNBC is rerunning the concert starting right now.
I wonder if they will edit out this fool.
Old 09-03-05, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PJsig08
Kanye spoke his mind,
Kanye has shit for brains then.

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Old 09-03-05, 11:20 AM
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Well I think Kayne is a worthless piece of shit. Its the blacks that are looting, raping, murdering etc etc etc. kind of funny how they pull the race card out when they are the racist and prejudice group down there. Hell we shouldnt bother helping as long as they keep acting like fucking animals
Old 09-03-05, 11:56 AM
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I don't like Bush. But even I think the blame needs top be pointed at the mayor and governor. Why the hell didn't the governor call in the national guard on day freakin' 1?
Old 09-03-05, 12:49 PM
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Because only white people can be racist?
Old 09-03-05, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by leepyswetr
I always suspected Chris Tucker was white, and now you've confirmed it. Thanks!
[Smokey]Da fuck you talkin' bout, boy? Dayaaaaaam. You best shut the fuck up. Nah nah, Kanye's just bullshittin'. You know this, maaaaan![/Smokey]
Old 09-03-05, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Myster X
Because only white people can be racist?
The Governor is white.

To be fair to Blanco, there were 4000 Guardsman deployed in-state in preparation for the storm, and they were on-site just about as fast as you could have expected them. They were, however, improperly deployed and utilized early on.
Old 09-03-05, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockmjd23
I would love to hear what evidence Kanye has to back up his statement that Bush doesn't care about blacks.
he picked blacks to be his 2 secretaries of state
whoops, that shows he likes blacks
Old 09-03-05, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgingCars
Why the hell didn't the governor call in the national guard on day freakin' 1?
She did.

"New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson offered Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco help from his state's National Guard on Sunday, the day before Hurricane Katrina hit Louisiana. Blanco accepted, but paperwork needed to get the troops en route didn't come from Washington until late Thursday."

Everyone dropped the ball here, I think, in one way or another. For now, let's just worry about the dead and the sick.

As for Kayne...while I think he's wrong, this is what happens when we as a nation don't sit down and honestly look at the role race and racism still plays in society today. If not now, when?

RS
Old 09-03-05, 03:02 PM
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Kanye West =
Sorry.
Old 09-03-05, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dork
So what? Fuck Heather Locklear for playing the race card and fuck her new album. But mostly I'll fuck Heather Locklear.
This is really funny.
Old 09-03-05, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RMSpuhler
She did.

"New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson offered Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco help from his state's National Guard on Sunday, the day before Hurricane Katrina hit Louisiana. Blanco accepted, but paperwork needed to get the troops en route didn't come from Washington until late Thursday."

Everyone dropped the ball here, I think, in one way or another. For now, let's just worry about the dead and the sick.

As for Kayne...while I think he's wrong, this is what happens when we as a nation don't sit down and honestly look at the role race and racism still plays in society today. If not now, when?

RS
I currently work at one of the news magazines on one of the three networks and I will say this: it's so much worse than what you're seeing on tv. The government really dropped the ball and it angers me that there are so many people dying because of lack of food, water, and medication. If reporters can get there, why can't the government?

When you see city blocks populated by only black people who are crying into the camera, you can't help but think that race is an issue.
Old 09-03-05, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by remjim
I currently work at one of the news magazines on one of the three networks and I will say this: it's so much worse than what you're seeing on tv. The government really dropped the ball and it angers me that there are so many people dying because of lack of food, water, and medication. If reporters can get there, why can't the government?

When you see city blocks populated by only black people who are crying into the camera, you can't help but think that race is an issue.
I just don't see it. Is it really a racial issue? Do you really think people are sitting back thinking "well, they're black so we'll take our time and yes, we're so stupid to think nobody will care" or that maybe, just maybe NO was hit by a cat 4 hurricane resulting in a disaster area involving 90,000 square miles and 100,000 people which means something that is beyond anything we've ever dealt with? Let's keep in mind that New Orleans is nearly 70% black...when this sort of disaster hits here, it was inevitable that most of the people would be black. Perhaps the hurricane is racist too for picking such a densely african american city?

I mean seriously people...look at what is going on. White, black, green, red I have no doubt we'd be having problems no matter where this took place. People talk as if what's going on is a normal occurance. Let's have a little perspective about what's going on here. Mistakes have been made but it seems like people seem to forget the enormous level of disaster that's going on here. I just don't know when evacuating, housing and feeding 100,000 people from a horrid and inpenetrable disaster zone became an overnight, easy thing to do.

Then as evidence, people use the wording in a couple of FRENCH news papers as evidence of our US leader's racism??? I just don't get it.

Kanye made some severly boneheaded statements and that's all there really is to it. The only thing I can do is laugh at how stupid it was. It boggles my mind that people can really think this way it defies logic. Does racism exist? Surely it does. Is our President intentionally dragging his feet because he doesn't like them black people? Give me a freakin break.
Old 09-03-05, 04:38 PM
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Kanye's comments are hilariously stupid. He can barely string three consecutive words together. The most offensive part, however, was when he said that when blacks are involved aid comes "as slowly as possible," effectively undercutting the Red Cross plea. He then backpeddled and said that Red Cross was hard at work but it's clear he has no idea what Red Cross does or who they are.

And all these comparisons to 9/11 and how fast services responded are ludicrous. The damage there was limited to a few blocks and the streets were clear. Plus FDNY don't walk off the job like NOFD, apparently.

However, I feel that there is DEFINITELY a class issue at play here. The lack of understanding of how immobil a poor city really is is staggering. I've spoken to people here with money who say "I would have just evacuated." I ask them what if they didn't have their car and money and if instead of living in Manhattan, right near the tunnels, they lived somewhere way out in Queens with lots of distance between them and escape. They are literally stunned: They hadn't even thought of it.

But the lack of planning and coordination is the biggest problem here, and that's a doozy. Of course, it's tied to class as well, with such a poor city no one really cares to make and fund good plans.
Old 09-03-05, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gil Jawetz
Kanye's comments are hilariously stupid. He can barely string three consecutive words together. The most offensive part, however, was when he said that when blacks are involved aid comes "as slowly as possible," effectively undercutting the Red Cross plea. He then backpeddled and said that Red Cross was hard at work but it's clear he has no idea what Red Cross does or who they are.

And all these comparisons to 9/11 and how fast services responded are ludicrous. The damage there was limited to a few blocks and the streets were clear. Plus FDNY don't walk off the job like NOFD, apparently.

However, I feel that there is DEFINITELY a class issue at play here. The lack of understanding of how immobil a poor city really is is staggering. I've spoken to people here with money who say "I would have just evacuated." I ask them what if they didn't have their car and money and if instead of living in Manhattan, right near the tunnels, they lived somewhere way out in Queens with lots of distance between them and escape. They are literally stunned: They hadn't even thought of it.

But the lack of planning and coordination is the biggest problem here, and that's a doozy. Of course, it's tied to class as well, with such a poor city no one really cares to make and fund good plans.
I couldn't agree more. I just think that race and class seem to go hand in hand. But yes, I probably should've said class instead.

"I just don't know when evacuating, housing and feeding 100,000 people from a horrid and inpenetrable disaster zone became an overnight, easy thing to do."

I don't think anyone here has said it was easy; what's frustrating and ridiculous is that New Orleans isn't in some third world country. Food and supplies exist a mere state away and could have been dropped off days earlier.
Old 09-03-05, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SuprVgeta
@ Mike Myers AND Chris Tucker's reaction to Kanye West's dumbarse comment, you could tell they were just like OMG... what is this guy saying. You have to be the DUUUMMMBBEESST sob to express something like that on a televised FUNDRAISER.
Yeah, that was the best part, Chris Tucker looked like he was in one of his movies... "Rush Hour 3: Kanye's Improv".
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Originally Posted by crazyronin
A federal dept. is funded, lets say, for $10 million. The head of that dept. requests a budget next year of $15 million. Congress decides that it should only get $14.3 million.

Where is the <b>CUT</b>?
oh for christ's sake. call it whatever the fuck you want to call it. the money was requested and it was denied.
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Originally Posted by WestEndRiot
oh for christ's sake. call it whatever the fuck you want to call it. the money was requested and it was denied.
I'll note that crazyronin's numbers appear to be completely made up. In one of these threads, I posted an article that demonstrates that there were actual, less-money-this-year-than-there-was-last-year cuts.
Old 09-03-05, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonF
I'll note that crazyronin's numbers appear to be completely made up. In one of these threads, I posted an article that demonstrates that there were actual, less-money-this-year-than-there-was-last-year cuts.
well whatever the case, its a moot point. the warnings went unheeded, the money wasn't spent and now the city is underwater.

from beginning to end there was a total failure of government from local all the way up to federal.
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some people make porn videos to get attention

others make racist remarks on TV
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Originally Posted by al_bundy
some people make porn videos to get attention

others make racist remarks on TV
I'd say Kanye's remarks were more ignorant then racist.
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Old 09-03-05, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by al_bundy
some people make porn videos to get attention

others make racist remarks on TV
and there's even some evil mothers

they're gonna tell you that everything is just dirt
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