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Canon's newest DSLR (EOS 5D)

Old 08-22-05, 11:27 AM
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Canon's newest DSLR (EOS 5D)

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05...canoneos5d.asp

Basically a 20D with a 13mp, full-frame sensor. Sells for around $3000. It has a few other differences:
  • Creative modes only, no idiot modes
  • No popup flash
  • Spot metering
  • More custom functions
  • Revamped image parameters
  • Bigger screen (2.5")
  • 3fps (vs 5 on the 20D)
  • Larger buffer than 20D (despite lower FPS... )

They also revamped the 1D mkII, now the 1D mkII N
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05...eos1dmkiin.asp

New lenses, EF 24-105 f/4L IS USM and EF 70-300 f/4-5.6 IS USM
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05...anonlenses.asp

New flash, 430EX. Pretend the 580EX and 420EX had a baby, the 430EX is what you get.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0508/05...canon430ex.asp

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Old 08-22-05, 01:46 PM
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Full frame sensor...wish Nikon would do that...
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Old 08-22-05, 02:06 PM
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I am more interested in the 24-105 lens than the new FF camera. The 20D is serving me great. I would love to be able to shoot wider but on a FF camera, you'll need some $$$$ wide lenses to have sharp corners. Also, my 70-200 will just be a 70-200. If I want more reach, it's gonna cost $$$$ for a long telephoto lens. Now, it would be awesome if they make a camera where you can switch between FF, 1.3 and 1.6
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Although I'm quite happy with the Rebel XT, despite having the EF-S lens, I'm jealous over this camera. It's quite nice. I'd kill for a full-frame sensor, but the lenses are going to be hellish to afford with a price like that on the body alone - then again, if you're just looking for something as an "enthusiast" there's plenty of sub-$1k choices for you out there. Being an "advanced amateur" or "weekend kinda sometimes pro" I'll stick with the lower line with the APS-C sensor for now. If I start shooting more shows and get a few more bands interested in my work, then perhaps I could afford a $3k body...

That said, the EF-S 17-85mm IS USM is just a marvelous piece of work.
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I'm going to stick with my 10D until it dies. Who knows what Canon will have by then. As long as my 70-200 still fits, I'll be happy.
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Originally Posted by BigDave
I'm going to stick with my 10D until it dies.
Mine didn't last long. I have to pay $200 to fix the problem and Canon created a new problem. I got the camera back last friday and I've noticed several small dust lines + a couple of dot dusts inside the LCD screen. It's going back to Canon today. Good news is that VISA might reimburse me back the money because my card has extended warranty coverage.
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being in the camera business, I can't wait to 'test' this one out. I've still got my D60, and love it all the same. Just waiting for a better one to come out to up grade.
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Just got told about our offer in Australia - the price will be about $5500 (with a $500 cash back offer)...

also has the 1:1 which is better than the x 1.6, which I normally have to do - great for extra zoom length, crap for macro/wide angle.

One day i'll upgrade my little D60!
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Why would a 1.6 body be bad for macro? I would think it would help give you better working distance.
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Old 08-24-05, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by shaun3000
[url][*]Larger buffer than 20D (despite lower FPS... )

larger buffer for large files?




This would be a good second camera to carry around with a wide angle. Lighter than the EOS 1D and wouldn't be bad with my 17-35mm 2.8.
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Old 08-24-05, 01:31 AM
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Nice, but is it true that 35mm film is still superior than digital?
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No, it's not true.
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Old 08-24-05, 11:32 AM
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^what he said. 35mm may still have higher resolution than digital, but they're noisy.

As for myself, I guess I will have to keep my 300D a little longer.
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Originally Posted by Buford T Pusser
larger buffer for large files?
No, it can actually take more pictures than the 20D before the buffer fills up. (60 JPEG or 17 RAW frames on 5D vs 23 JPEG or 6 RAW frames on 20D)

As for 35mm being better, that hasn't been true for several years. 35mm is capable of higher resolution but unless you use a very high quality, low ISO film, you will have more noise and grain than picture. The digital sensors being made, today, especially on DSLRs, is so much lower than 35mm at a comparable ISO, it's simply amazing. On my 20D, ISO 400 has virtually no noise and 800 has 1/4 the noise I got using ISO400 Kodak film.
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