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Old 05-19-05, 04:33 AM
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'Sorry, you're dead,' pension fund tells German woman

BERLIN (AFP) - A German woman in her eighties said she had been ordered by her pension fund to produce a certificate to prove she was still alive.

Martha Kruse telephoned the Bundesknappschaft fund after her payments were suddenly stopped, only to be told by an employee: "Don't get upset, but you died on January 28."

The fund also asked payments made to the 82-year-old to be repaid.

The employee would not accept the sound of the woman's voice as proof that she was still alive and asked her instead to produce a "life certificate".

The perplexed Kruse was forced to go to the municipal authorities in her home town of Barsinghausen near Hanover which agreed to make out the necessary document, charging her 4.80 euros (six dollars) for the privilege.

The certificate stated that Kruse was alive and well and fully able to present her identity papers.

Thomas Lieth, the head of the Bundesknappschaft fund, said Kruse had been confused with another client who had died, but defended the decision to ask for proof she was alive.

"When someone just telephones us, it is not enough," Lieth said, adding that the fund had apologised.

Kruse was not impressed. "When someone makes a mistake like that, they could at least offer a bouquet of flowers," she said.

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Old 05-19-05, 07:51 AM
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I am 90% sure that, if someone asked, I would be unable to produce any valid documentation proving that I am still alive.
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That lady should go on a crime spree. What are they gonna do to her if she's already dead?
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If all it took to keep getting pension funds was a phone call stating that you were alive I'm sure a lot of grown kids would be calling up the office after thier parents died.
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That lady should go on a crime spree. What are they gonna do to her if she's already dead?

Oh the irony....executing a dead person.

If anyone can....a government would find the way!!!
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Old 05-19-05, 08:01 PM
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official: "I am sorry I need a birth certificate"

lady: "Why do I need my birth certificate?"

official: "To prove that you are living!"

Lady: "Well I am standing right here in front of YOU!!"

official: "I am sorry BUT you must prove that!!"

I saw that on some tv show years ago! I was reminded of it after reading the first post!!

Take care all!!
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Oh the irony....executing a dead person.

If anyone can....a government would find the way!!!
Especially the German government!
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Well, at least the German Gov't figured it out. The US is still requesting identification.
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