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Old 02-21-05, 07:57 AM
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Scientist warns against depriving youngsters of meat

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...2/s1307922.htm
Scientist warns against depriving youngsters of meat
A United States Government scientist says pregnant women who are vegetarians or vegans could be seriously harming their unborn babies.

Dr Lindsey Allen, a nuritionist, has also told the American Association for the Advancement of Science that putting young children on a meat-free diet is unethical because they are not getting all the nutrients they need.

She says there is growing evidence to suggest that a lack of those nutrients could affect a child's development.

"I would go so far as to say it's unethical for parents not to provide their children, their growing children, whether it be in the uterus or after they're born with animal source foods that are so clearly required for their normal development," she said.

Her comments are based on the results of a study of poor children in Kenya which showed that providing small amounts of animal-based food was substantially more effective than artificial supplements.
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Hogwash. My wife is a vegetarian, and both of our kids are healthy and happy. Neither will be raised as a vegetarian (I'm not one), but neither currently eats meat regularly.

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Dr. Allen is on the payroll of the Beef Council or similar organization.
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I assume these same parents are also withholding their children's pudding?
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Originally Posted by johnglass
I assume these same parents are also withholding their children's pudding?
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My mom was a vegetarian and I am normal...well mostly, i dont get the pudding reference
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Are you serious? We're going to look at starving children in Kenya in order to determine whether all children should eat meat? Give me a break.

It has been proven time and time again that a vegetarian diet - even for children - is healthy and in many respects much healther than the meat-based diet. Additionally, most children on a vegetarian diet don't eat "artifical supplements" - they eat vegetables, legumes, grains, fruit, soy, nuts, etc...

<sigh>

Dr. Allen needs to go back to logic school.
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At least, Michael Jackson is doing his best to supply his other white meat to little boys.
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Originally Posted by Venusian
My mom was a vegetarian and I am normal...well mostly, i dont get the pudding reference
Where have you been living...the dark side of the moon?
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I don't have much to add here, so I'll just add a quote which always amused me, from Michael Klaper, M.D.:

"The human body has absolutely no requirement for animal flesh. Nobody has ever been found face-down 20 yards from the Burger King because they couldn't get their Whopper in time."
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Originally Posted by Venusian
My mom was a vegetarian and I am normal...well mostly, i dont get the pudding reference

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
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And here's a picture of the scientist in question:



THANK YOU FOLKS, AND GOODNIGHT! BE SURE TO TIP YOUR WAITRESS!
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Originally Posted by Brain Stew
And here's a picture of the scientist in question:



THANK YOU FOLKS, AND GOODNIGHT! BE SURE TO TIP YOUR WAITRESS!
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Originally Posted by johnglass
I assume these same parents are also withholding their children's pudding?
Outstanding.
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Originally Posted by GoVegan
I don't have much to add here, so I'll just add a quote which always amused me, from Michael Klaper, M.D.:

"The human body has absolutely no requirement for animal flesh. Nobody has ever been found face-down 20 yards from the Burger King because they couldn't get their Whopper in time."
I don't get it. Of course, I can also see that the first sentence is incorrect and the second sentence is irrelevant, so maybe that robs me from seeing teh funny.

And anyway, you also can't have any pudding.
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Originally Posted by GoVegan
I don't have much to add here, so I'll just add a quote which always amused me, from Michael Klaper, M.D.:

"The human body has absolutely no requirement for animal flesh. Nobody has ever been found face-down 20 yards from the Burger King because they couldn't get their Whopper in time."
I would argue that early man became smart, invented tools, fire, and language to kill and eat critters, not primarily to flee predators. All great apes also eat a little meat, limited by the facts that they are not very successful hunters (compared to humans). Communication, weapons, and group hunting were key to human success vs. apes.

It is also probably true that modern man (in developed countries) eats more meat than is needed, or good for him.
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I we weren't suppose to eat animals, they would not be made of meat.
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Originally Posted by Venusian
My mom was a vegetarian and I am normal...well mostly, i dont get the pudding reference
It's a reference to a Pink Floyd song, jeez didnt u ever try drugs?
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Originally Posted by kvrdave
I we weren't suppose to eat animals, they would not be made of meat.
Exactly. Make them out of brussel sprouts, eggplant, or spinach. They'd be perfectly safe.
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Originally Posted by Otto
I don't get it. Of course, I can also see that the first sentence is incorrect and the second sentence is irrelevant, so maybe that robs me from seeing teh funny.

And anyway, you also can't have any pudding.
I don't see how the first sentence is incorrect. Yes, meat has plenty of things which the human body requires, but it contains nothing which can't be obtained through other means. The second sentence is just an absurd exaggeration, but also true. I haven't had any meat since I was ten and I'm just as healthy as anyone else I know and I don't expect to be cashing in my chips anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by OldDude
I would argue that early man became smart, invented tools, fire, and language to kill and eat critters, not primarily to flee predators. All great apes also eat a little meat, limited by the facts that they are not very successful hunters (compared to humans). Communication, weapons, and group hunting were key to human success vs. apes.
Someone, somewhere is writing a jingle for a new half-assed PETA ad campaign:

Meat: What Have You Done for Me Lately?
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Originally Posted by Groucho
Where have you been living...the dark side of the moon?
Good follow-up...
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Originally Posted by OldDude
All great apes also eat a little meat, limited by the facts that they are not very successful hunters (compared to humans). Communication, weapons, and group hunting were key to human success vs. apes.

I have never heard of Gorillas or Orangutans eating meat, do you have any source for this?
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Originally Posted by Mopower
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That's cold.
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Originally Posted by Brain Stew
That's cold.
I was going to say "ignorant".
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Originally Posted by kvrdave
I was going to say "ignorant".
I was gonna say "Who wants to go out for an In & Out Double-double"

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