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Old 02-20-05, 03:21 PM
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Need opinions on plastic playing cards.

I've had it with the coated paper (AKA Bicycle playing cards). We had a player this week who brought over a set of plastic playing cards and these things were in a league of their own. They dealt, slid, and felt soooo much better than the Bicycle cards. Most importantly....they shuffled like a sweet dream which is huge considering I usually end up doing 90% of the shuffing.

I've been looking at some of the cards online (Copag, KEM, A-Plus, Royal) and just wanted to see what other people thought. It seems like the KEM's are the old guard of plastic playing cards, but have been having manufacturing problems resulting in a shortage and higher market prices. A lot people seem to be going with the Copags because of this.

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Old 02-20-05, 03:24 PM
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I don't know about the shortage or whatever. I can attest, however, that KEM cards are very, very nice.
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I've got a set of the Copags, and I love them. Got the four suits deck, and they are wonderful to play with. My only complaint is that the two decks look very similar and so I may want to pick up another couple of decks, just so that I can avoid mixing them up.
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I have two decks of KEMs that I bought in Vegas. They are exactly the same ones that every poker room in town was using when I was there. They are very nice.

As far as coated cards, there is only one: Bee.
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I have two sets of the KEM Arrow design cards, like those used in the movie Rounders, and I absolutely love them. Everytime I put them in play, everyone cannot believe how much nicer they are compared to the coated cards that they are use to playing with. I haven't used any of the other brands you've mentioned, but I can say that the KEM's are excellent cards.
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Kem makes the best cards. That's what we use at Canterbury. And there was a shortage late last year for a few months. (due to new ownership?)
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Here's an excellent review and comparison of all the plastic cards: Click on each image for individual reviews.

http://www.homepokertourney.com/cards_review.htm
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Here's a thread with 3 videos comparing the durability between Bicycle, KEM, and Copag cards.

http://21ace.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1805
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I have wanted to pick up some KEMs, but buying them via Ebay, etc. seems pretty risky given the amount of printing problems they have had. Especially for "unopened" packs.
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I just ordered me a set of Copags. I'll let you guys know how they work out once I get them.
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i want to know why they are so expensive.
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Originally Posted by moorehed
i want to know why they are so expensive.


I just got two decks of Copags for $16. Not that bad IMO.

Need to remember 1 deck of plastic cards will outlast at least 20 decks of paper coated cards. Plastic cards pwn regular cards. I used to be skeptical too.....but I've seen the light now.
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our problem normally is LOSING cards......
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I have a couple decks of the Royals. Definitely nicer than paper, but they are a bit slippery.
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Originally Posted by wabio
I just got two decks of Copags for $16. Not that bad IMO.
Okay, I just ordered a 2-pack for $15 on eBay. Got my fingers crossed.
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You can't beat KEM, but you can crtainly beat their price, all depends on how much you want to spend and how often you play.
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Update: We just used the set of Copags I bought for a home tourney yesterday. They play much much better than the Bicycle cards. Shuffling was effortless. The ones I got were a bit smaller than the Bicycles cards, but you can buy the poker wides if you want. The only real advantage the Bicycle cards have is their looks....their cards are much more vibrant. The Copags look kind of like photocopies.
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Originally Posted by wabio
Update: We just used the set of Copags I bought for a home tourney yesterday. They play much much better than the Bicycle cards. Shuffling was effortless. The ones I got were a bit smaller than the Bicycles cards, but you can buy the poker wides if you want. The only real advantage the Bicycle cards have is their looks....their cards are much more vibrant. The Copags look kind of like photocopies.
Agreed.

I just got my 2-pack that I ordered from WWW.PokerSuppliesCo.com (eBay). I got the smaller bridge size cards instead of the larger poker size cards, as all the casinos that I've ever played poker at (like 6~7) use the bridge size cards for poker, plus noticeably easier to play with.

Anyway, the colors are very dull. They really do look like photocopies. And the finish feels slightly grainy and paperlike, it looks very dull (non-glossy), but they're still very slick and they shuffle like any other set of plastic cards. BUT, I was warned by the link you (wabio) posted above regarding color and glare, so it was not a huge disappointment.

Next time, I'm getting the A Plus cards. The two nearest casinos use them, and I love how they're vibrant in colors, super glossy, and have the indices right against the side edge of the cards. It scored lowest on "graphics" (amount of detail) but that's really not a big deal. I've played A Plus cards for years at the local casino, and I have no complaints.
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Originally Posted by namja
...And the finish feels slightly grainy and paperlike, it looks very dull (non-glossy), but they're still very slick and they shuffle like any other set of plastic cards.
I've been reading that the texture will improve and the cards will play better after they've been broken in. We will see....
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Are there any B&M stores that sell these? I hate getting jacked on shipping from online stores. Pokergoods.com wants to charge $4 for shipping on Copags or I can pay $5 to pick them up from their warehouse. Just trying to figure out what other options are out there.

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