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Old 02-19-05, 06:24 PM
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File this one under "H" for "(Pic gives me the) Heebee-jeebies"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp.../egypt_baby_dc

Egyptian Doctors Remove Baby's Second Head

Sat Feb 19,10:49 AM ET

By Amil Khan

BENHA, Egypt (Reuters) - Egyptian doctors said they removed a second head from a 10-month-old girl suffering from one of the rarest birth defects in an operation Saturday.

Abla el-Alfy, a consultant in paediatric intensive care, told Reuters at the hospital in Benha, near Cairo, that Manar Maged was in a serious but improving condition after the procedure to treat her for craniopagus parasiticus -- a problem related to that of conjoined twins linked at the skull.

"We are still working on the baby. After surgery ... you get unstable blood pressure, you get fever. But she is stabilizing," Alfy said. "We have some improvement."

As in the case of a girl who died after similar surgery in the Dominican Republic a year ago, the second twin had developed no body. The head that was removed from Manar had been capable of smiling and blinking but not independent life, doctors said.

Video footage provided by the hospital, a national center in Egypt for children's medicine, showed Manar smiling and at ease in a cot with the dark-haired "parasitic" twin, attached at the upper left side of the girl's skull, occasionally blinking.

After the 13-hour operation, Reuters journalists saw the baby, her head swathed in bandages and body wreathed by tubes, in an intensive care ward. A separate twin sister, Noora, is healthy after initial problems with the birth on March 30.

Alfy said the 13-strong surgical team separated Manar's brain from the conjoined organ in small stages, cutting off the blood supply to the extra head while preventing increased blood flow to Manar's heart, which would have risked cardiac arrest.

Benha, 40 km (25 miles) north of Cairo, was chosen for its equipment and proximity to the girl's family. "The family of the child are from near here, we have the equipment, we assembled a team, so why not have the operation here?" she said, explaining the choice not to work in Cairo or at centers abroad with more experience with conjoined twins.

MONTHS OF PREPARATION

Alfy said Manar's skull had been reconstructed during surgery and her skin had been joined over the bone, leaving no need for further reconstructive surgery.

The doctors decided not to carry out Manar's operation soon after her birth: "We studied the babies well," Alfy said. "We had to study how the blood supply of the parasite is working."

She plans to keep Manar in intensive care for up to 10 days and remains cautious: "Things are getting better but ... at any time things can go wrong."

The condition occurs when an embryo begins to split into identical twins but fails to complete the process and one of the conjoined twins fails to develop fully in the womb.

The second twin can form as an extra limb, a complete second body lacking vital organs, or, in very rare cases, a head.

Last February, seven-week-old Rebeca Martinez died in the Dominican Republic after surgery to remove a second head.

The leader of that team, Jorge Lazareff of the University of California at Los Angeles, noted on viewing one picture of the Egyptian baby that the face of the undeveloped twin was "very well developed" compared to that in Rebeca's case.

"Rebeca ... had a more vertical sibling, whereas (in) this the second growth is tangential," he told Reuters, while noting he had not previously been aware of the Egyptian child.
See the pic here:

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Yeeesh! Glad she's doing well.
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i'm speechless. i have no speech.
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Wow.

I wonder if the twin was aware. I hope not
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that is frigging creepy.
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looks tabloid fake to me, but um... ew.
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This part freaks me out:
"The head that was removed from Manar had been capable of smiling and blinking but not independent life, doctors said"
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So much for "two heads are better than one."
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HOLY CRAP!!
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Maybe Fox will use it for a limited DVD edition in Japan.
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Originally Posted by milkman71
This part freaks me out:
"The head that was removed from Manar had been capable of smiling and blinking but not independent life, doctors said"
Yeah, me too. Was it capable of independent thought?
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that is some freaky stuff
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Originally Posted by nazz
Was it capable of independent thought?
Not even that many normal people are.
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Originally Posted by gcribbs
Wow. I wonder if the twin was aware. I hope not
At ten months, I doubt it. I'll bet she has a strong neck, though.
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Oh fer cryin' out loud! That's some wild stuff!
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So much for "two heads are better than one."
I'm glad i'm not the only one with a sick sense of humor.

-pedagogue
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I can believe no one has pos ed his e



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Good night! That is the most disturbing thing I have ever seen! I'm off to the liqour store. There is no way I'm getting to sleep tonight.
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Originally Posted by Crocker Jarmen
Good night! That is the most disturbing thing I have ever seen! I'm off to the liqour store. There is no way I'm getting to sleep tonight.

Crocker- ou ma remember his. I is more dis urbing.



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yikes! that's scary stuff
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Buford-did you have some of the letters from your keyboard surgically removed?
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Originally Posted by costanza
i'm speechless. i have no speech.
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Originally Posted by costanza
Buford-did you have some of the letters from your keyboard surgically removed?
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Originally Posted by Trigger
looks tabloid fake to me, but um... ew.

Same thing I thought, it looks photoshopped to me.

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