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Old 01-08-05, 02:34 PM
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General 7 Stud Strategy?

anyone want to give me some pointers on general strategy? that would be nice of you.
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Old 01-08-05, 03:05 PM
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Starting hand starting hand starting hand.

Are you playing hi lo or regular?
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nothing yet...

could you give me a bit more info as to like... WHAT the starting hand requirements should be?

and what a normal % to play is?
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Old 01-09-05, 03:24 PM
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pockets on 10s and up are usually good, and usually you want to see 4th street a lot to see if your hand develops. Getting a 3 flush on 3rd street is good and of course a set of anything is good, there's a decent chance it'll develop into a boat by 7th street.

also you have to always take into consideration what's out, if you have a pair of anything but it's out, you don't want to play it unless it's aces. Hi Lo is a whole diff. animal.

I recommend sklansky's book for experts, but it doesn't cover hi lo.
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Old 01-09-05, 03:47 PM
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i read up on a bit of strategy here:

http://www.studstrategy.com/

just to get some basics down... i have been playing the .25/50 table at pokerstars for a little bit... it is strange because i would say i am pretty bad as far as understanding the overall strategy, but i seem to be playing far better than most at these limits - which doesn't say much at all for the other players . at what limit of stud do you start running into better players?
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I've seen decent players at 1/2 tables.
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Old 01-09-05, 05:08 PM
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can someone explain to me what happens if your table is full of 8 players, and everyone keeps calling and we run out of cards.
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Originally Posted by moorehed
can someone explain to me what happens if your table is full of 8 players, and everyone keeps calling and we run out of cards.
Interesting question, I'd like to see that problem get rectified.
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Old 01-09-05, 06:44 PM
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There must be some rule involving the cards that are showing.
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Nevermind:

Sometimes, there are not enough cards to complete a drawing round. When this happens, the muck has to be reshuffled and the draw is completed after the reshuffle. The cards that are included in the reshuffle are the mucked cards from all previous drawing rounds and the mucked cards of any player who has gotten all of his replacement cards on the current drawing round.

Going back to our previous example, let's say that Player 1 discards 3 cards, Player 2 discards 2 cards and Player 3 discards 1 card. The

dealer then deals Player 1 three cards and Player 2 one card. At this point there are no more cards left in the deck. The mucked cards from any previous betting rounds are now shuffled with the discards from Player 1 only. Player 2's discards are not included in the reshuffle since all of his discards were not replaced. This means that it is impossible for a player to ever get his own discards back on a given round of betting.
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that is for draw poker... if everyone were still in there wouldn't be any mucked cards would there?
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Old 01-09-05, 07:59 PM
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A common card is dealt, according to the rules.

It's even more complicated in a live casino game, where there are burn cards to deal with (no pun intended).

GP makes a good point about remembering what's been dealt, and what you might want/need. This can be tough in an online game, where the cards can disappear quite quickly. It's even harder if you've got a memory like, ummmm, I forget...
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thx wiz. why don't you help out w/strategy. you are the stud man aren't you?
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I played stud for like 25+ years with the wifeís family. Penny ante no laydown stuff. Iím pretty much ruined for life.
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Old 01-10-05, 12:28 AM
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did you win?
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No, they're still my inlaws.

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Old 01-11-05, 10:59 AM
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starting playing 7-stud H/L on Pacific last night. Rolled the room for $30 at the .50/$1 level. It was almost too easy.
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Old 01-11-05, 11:52 AM
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what is your H/L strategy? What kinds of starting hands are you looking for?
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High pair (Q, K, A) on 4th street or earlier, or 3+ to a high flush/straight on 4th street or earlier.

I'll chase the low if things look promising. For instance, if I have A 2 4 5 after 4th street.

Of course, it all depends on what's already on the board. I won't chase QQ94 if there's already a Q and a 9 out there. Or if someone's sporting Aces or Kings on the board.

Usually you can get the 4th street card just for the bring-in rate, as most people tend not to raise after the initial 3 cards and just bring in.
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Here's a good link:

http://www.studstrategy.com/7cardstudstrategy8b.htm
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Iím interested in thoughts about raising on later streets when youíre playing for the low.

Letís say itís down to 3 players. One player is clearly playing for the hi, and the other two (yourself included) are playing low. A raise may produce 3 bets total, of which, if you win, you will see Ĺ bet profit. And this doesnít take into account the rake.

It just doesnít seem smart to me.

Maybe this idea doesnít work for stud. But itís especially true in Omaha/8 where chances of being quartered are quite high.
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being quartered sucks. being sixthed sucks even worse.
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My roommate talked me into playing some stud last night on Pokerroom, my first experience with it, and I jumped straight into 1/2. Won a couple of monster pots early with sneaky flushes (used all 3 of my down cards). Bled most of it away chasing some other hands but still ended up $25 for the night.

Lost one hand when I had AA in my first 2 down cards and made a set on 4th street. Clicked "Bet" and then our network died, by the time I'd reset the router I'd already been booted from the table.

Found it to be a very fun game and think I'll try it out some more.
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