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Old 01-03-05, 10:28 AM
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Stockpile food and supplies in case of disaster?

Good morning my fellow otter-ites, i hope you all are well-


The tsunami incident got me thinking about this the other day-

What if something really horrible happened like that to my town, or to the east coast, etc... No one knows what will happen in the future, and no one knows where the next 9-11 type event will be, or if there even will be one, etc..
What would you do if the infrastructure of your town was completely crippled? Or the power went out for days, or even weeks? No water? Martial Law? Plague, etc.. What would you do?

So, is it worth stockpiling about 2-3 months worth of canned food or non-perishable foods in case of a horrible disaster, such as:

- Natural Disaster ( flood, tsunami, torado, meteor )
- War, terrorist attack, martial law, etc.. ?
- Plague or bio-warfare attack
- Anarchy, civil revolt, or unknown phenomenon

I was thinking of just getting a rubbermaid container and keep it in the closet or whatever, and everytime i go shopping, i just add like 2-3 canned items to the box.

Also some good things to have for a really "rainy day" would be:

Matches, and canned sterno (for cooking)
Plastic utensils, plates, and cups
Cash
Firearm and ammo
Canned food stockpile (canned tuna, soups, pasta, other items)
flashlight / batteries
Radio
Generator (sorta cost prohibitive, but good enought to put on the list)
Water purification drops
Bottled water, or jugs
Extra medication
Books, boardgames, and non-electric entertainment sources



Any thoughts or comments ? Anybody do this, or am i totally paranoid ?
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Old 01-03-05, 10:43 AM
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Fortunately, most everything I would need is on my property. There is a creek behind my house that has tested fine for potable water. There are deer to kill and eat. I have a small generator which can work my entertainment center (this is more for power failure than survival), etc.

I don't know what else I would need.
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Old 01-03-05, 10:44 AM
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You're just paranoid.

There's nothing to see here.

Move along.

Move along.

... and what is this "non electric entertainment" you speak of?

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Old 01-03-05, 10:46 AM
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Here in Utah, it's a way of life. Everybody has extensive food storage in their basement, and there's a nice cottage industry based around it. Apparently, it's something stressed by the LDS church, but I'm not a member and don't know the details.

What I do know is that since everybody else is so well stocked, if something DOES happen, I can just loot the house of a neighbor who's on vacation.
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Apparently, it's something stressed by the LDS church, but I'm not a member and don't know the details.
It's a long flight to Kolob
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Eh, if it happens it happens. That is what looting is for.
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Anyone living in California should be "quake prepared".

Water
Food
extra medication
spare prescription glasses
Wind up radio or at least extra batteries
cash
first aid kits
Tennis shoes
All the extras supplies for your pets like food and water and other stuff.

Also, survival kits for you car and workplace are good too. My ex had a client that sold these. It had all the essentials plus a wind up radio. I keep it in my car.

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McDonald's. Their food will last for years. Even during a nuclear attack.
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McDonald's. Their food will last for years. Even during a nuclear attack.

If all you had left was McDonald's I think you'd be better off dying.
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Originally Posted by skiblet



I was thinking of just getting a rubbermaid container and keep it in the closet or whatever, and everytime i go shopping, i just add like 2-3 canned items to the box.

Also some good things to have for a really "rainy day" would be:

Matches, and canned sterno (for cooking)
Plastic utensils, plates, and cups
Cash
Firearm and ammo
Canned food stockpile (canned tuna, soups, pasta, other items)
flashlight / batteries
Radio
Generator (sorta cost prohibitive, but good enought to put on the list)
Water purification drops
Bottled water, or jugs
Extra medication
Books, boardgames, and non-electric entertainment sources



Any thoughts or comments ? Anybody do this, or am i totally paranoid ?
No, not paranoid, just practical. The Red Cross has a list of things you should have ready in case of emergencies. I don't think guns and ammo are on their list though. You
list essentials like matches, plates, cups and batteries but are you going to open the cans with your teeth? You forgot a can opener in your list.

And a good hunting knife, a leatherman multitool and a swiss army knife would be practical too.
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oh snap, i forgot toilet paper too - thats a good thing to have-
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Pfft. Why would you need all that? All you need is a gun and ammo. Then you find somebody who has all that and kill them. Problem solved.
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Just use your left over y2k supplies. I have a bunch of ammo and pets for when i run out of food.
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I've stockpiled rubber bands and paper clips (old bump items), so I'm pretty well armed against...well...spit ball attacks, I guess.
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Or, just shop at Costco. It'll ensure that you have a lifetime supply of just about everything.
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Old 01-03-05, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
Or, just shop at Costco. It'll ensure that you have a lifetime supply of just about everything.
2 gallons of mayonaise. Check
2500 paper plates. Check
1 large box of Metamucil. Check

Now how do I McGuyver this?
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Be sure to know your neighboors. If you have no food and have to turn to canabilism, pick the one now that probably taste the best.
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Originally Posted by Mopower
Eh, if it happens it happens. That is what looting is for.
That's why I like to keep this handy.

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Originally Posted by Groucho
Or, just shop at Costco. It'll ensure that you have a lifetime supply of just about everything.
Good idea. I live less than a block away from a Costco, so I'm prepared to loot!
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Old 01-03-05, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by skiblet
oh snap, i forgot toilet paper too - thats a good thing to have-
And large garbage bags with a seal to put said item into.
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Originally Posted by Phil L.
That's why I like to keep this handy.



"I like to keep this handy.... for close encounters" - Michael Biehn




by the way is that really gun? bet that helps keep the neighborhood kids in line-. I bet no one lets their dog crap your yard as well! wooo!
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IMHO, 2-3 months is over kill (not to put you down, if it makes you feel better, then by all means do it). We have such an incredible support system here in the US, I can't imagine needed stuff for that long. 2-3 days or maybe a week. But much more then that I really can't see.

I've been working in Florida since the 1st hurricane hit. In even the worse hit areas, it was only a day or two before you could at least get in and out of the area. Sure, power was out for a couple of weeks in some areas, if you wanted you could find elsewhere to stay or even by a generator for essentials. Tho if I actually lived in Florida, I would look into one of those whole house generators.
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No, not paranoid, just practical. The Red Cross has a list of things you should have ready in case of emergencies. I don't think guns and ammo are on their list though.
No family survival kit is complete without a firearm in any urban or semi-urban environment. Don't like guns? I don't blame you. Compromise and get a .22 rifle, put a trigger lock on it, and hide it in the back of the closet. They are cheap and the ammo is very cheap.

An excellent first aid kit is a must, regardless of circumstances. There are very few (if any) complete kits worth a damn on the market. You are better off buying a large tackle box and making your own.

My Y2K survival kit included large amounts of canned dog food. It is edible, cheap, high in calories and protein and the dogs ate it when nothing happened. I wasn't worried about computer network collapse so much as social entropy and terrorism. The problem with stockpiling canned goods in general is that they are likely to go to waste. People buy too many, especially of things they will not otherwise eat, and the money ends up wasted. You are only supposed to keep them for a year or so. Better to stock up only on things that you will eat and just keep more of them on hand at any given time. Don't wait until you are out to buy more. Practice FIFO by keeping things organized in a large pantry. Vitamin tablets are also a good thing to have around but they also expire.

Other food options, albeit expensive ones, include MREs and freeze dried goods.

Keep empty bleach bottles and fill them with water. In the meantime, fill 2-liter bottles with potable water and add a few drops to bleach to each. Keep them in a dark place. Bleach bottles take a long time to accumulate.

Go camping occasionally. Camping skills are good skills to have plus it is a great excuse to buy stuff you might otherwise not buy. These include propane stoves, lanterns, sleeping bags, camping tools, a water filter (strongly recommend Katadyn), etc. Stock up on propane canisters.

Never throw away old towels, blankets, moving pads, etc. unless they are disgusting. Stack them in the attic. You never know when you'll be glad you have them.

Keep a decent amount of gasoline on hand at any given time. Use Sta-Bil or comparable to improve its longevity. Like canned goods, FIFO.

Geez, I could go on for hours.
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Old 01-03-05, 06:34 PM
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just look at FL. no one is ready for huricanes and has plywood on hand ahead of time, or permanent storm shutters
shit, I not only have extra food and water in my apartment, i have food and water in my car, along with a fully loaded camping back pack, extra clothes, sleeping bag, sterno stove etc.
this is a good start for a lot of different preparedness type info
http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=1&f=123

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