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Pacific Poker cooking the deck in Sit N Go's?

Old 10-24-04, 02:54 AM
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Pacific Poker cooking the deck in Sit N Go's?

A very mysterious trend I notice is this. If I'm in a Sit N Go, and everyone is tight, it's going on forever, the blinds are HUGE, no one wants to even call because of the big blinds..... well suddenly everyone starts getting good cards. KA, KJ, KQ, JJ, QQ, all over the place in every hand. Over and over again I was getting awesome cards at the end of this, after getting very normal cards all night. And guys were calling me with equally good hands.

It was almost as if Pacific Poker's software decided the game was going on long enuff and we needed to leave.....?

Anyone notice this trend before? I dunno, I need to get out of there, I like the cheap Sit N Go's but the software is extremely sketchy/shady to me.
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I’m hardly a computer expert. I can just barely make any semi-complex program do its stuff and have unkind words about “Bill” and his Office products on a daily basis (even though I’m considered an expert in Word).

It seems to me that the complexities of building and running a poker site are enough without trying to program it to do what you suggest. Not that you’re the first (or last) to think that or any of a dozen or so variations.

I played at Pacific to get the WPT set. In the process I made something like $400 playing 1/2, 2/4, and SnGs before I cashed out. I opened a new account for another WPT set and crashed and burned. (Not only that, but I had to return the set 3 times because of floaters. But that’s another story.) It was about that time that I started hearing about the “cash out” myth, where the program punishes you for cashing out. How the program managed to F with my DVDs is still a mystery.

Let’s put it this way. I’ve seen things in live casinos that are just as unbelievable as on the internet. 5 pocket pairs in one hand. Pocket pairs rotate around the table and ascend in rank for 5 hands (until it gets to me). One stinking bastard got a str8 flush AND a royal within an hour. And I’ve been dealt the same cards (suit and rank) 3 hands in a row – from 2 different decks. And they were lousy cards at that. Rod Serling did not deal any of those hands.

You might want to try UnitedPokerForum. They talk about site rigging all the time there.
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well, I just don't see why they'd care. The amount of money you are costing them by staying in your SnG a few minutes longer just doesn't seem significant, even when you multiply by a huge number of occurrences. The only thing it "costs" them are mostly fixed costs in servers, as near as I can tell.
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Well once you've joined a Sit N Go they've taken all the money they're gonna get for that tourney, if they can rush an end to the game then the players may go on to another game. So while there's negligible costs to keep a game running for a long time, there's lost revenue because the players aren't joining any other games.

Now personally I don't think any of the sites are rigging their games in any way, but I assume that would be their motivation if they were.
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If they were.

There's plenty more motivation for not doing it.
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I think the problem is these offshores sites are unregulated in any way and therefore conspiracy theories can arise. Just last week Paul Philips talked about a high up at a poker site take a large sum of money from a user's account without verball confirming it with that user because of a personal debt between the 2 individuals. That's scary as hell. Credit card merchants don't want to touch these guys with a 10 foot pole that's why firepay and the like exist.

I'm not sure if it's true or not, but since these guys could do anything they want and no one would know it, who does know?
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The reason Visa and MC won’t touch it is because they were sued by morons who charged up to their eyeballs and wanted to blame someone for their stupidity. (Source: PokerPlayer)

I agree. Who does know? But, do we actually know that there’s nobody looking over their shoulders? Do we know that they're unregulated?

What else have we heard about internet gaming? You’d think if there were problems, there would be at least 100 eager beaver hack reporters trying to make headlines. At the very least, you’d read something on the boards/magazines, yes?

I believe these sites are being watched very closely by the feds. It would be quite easy for them to blacklist one or more and make it illegal to transfer funds.
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The Paul Philips thing is scary and he's the only one who reported on that, if that happens, it just seems to open Pandora's Box in terms of what could be happening. Juiced decks? Maybe.

AFAIK they are unregulated, but maybe there is some sort of regulation I don't know about. Since none are located in the US, I'm not sure there's anything the Feds could do about it.

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