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Old 10-21-04, 01:26 PM
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Let me tell you about frustration....

Nothing worse than when you know you are right, and someone else doesn't realize it. I had this conversation this morning.





"Dave, you know Star Trek. Which movie had Kirk and Picard together?"

"That was the first Next Generation movie Generations"

"No, not that one. This one had Kirk and Picard trapped in a black hole"

"It was Generations and it wasn't a black hole, it was called "the nexus"."

"No, this one had them both trapped around a black hole. I don't even know if they were aware of each other being trapped in the same black hole."

"Oh, that's not a movie, it was the book Federation. Great book."

"no, I've never read a Star Trek book. I know I saw this on TV."

"You didn't. There is only one movie with both Kirk and Picard, and it was Generations."

"No, this one had both of them around a worm hole."

"Let me ask you this....did this movie have Zephram Cochran in it and his "woman" who escaped from their planet and once getting into the future found that the planet was gone because she was "connected" to it, and as a result she died shortly after?"

"Yeah, what movie was that?"

"It wasn't a movie, it was a book called Federation"

"No, I remember Zephram Cochran in it. He was a scruffy looking guy"

"You are thinking about the movie First Contact, which is the only movie he appears in. In the original series, he was a clean cut looking guy."

"No, this was a movie. I've never read a Star Trek book."

"I gave you the book."

"nah, that's not right."







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Old 10-21-04, 01:30 PM
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You are a true uber-Trekker geek.
Old 10-21-04, 01:32 PM
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True frustration is working with people who are whiners and lazy-arces!
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Dude. He should listen to you. After all, you DID name your kid RIKER, and your dog's name is WORF. You'd think he'd figure someone who did that would know their trek inside and out.
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poor kvrdave...nobody understands the level you're on.


I think I'm close though.
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Bet him it was the book and not a movie. Then force him to watch all ten Star Trek movies and read the book.
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<-- uber-nerd trek fan

Dude, you are my hero.
Old 10-21-04, 01:38 PM
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You should get into an argument with him about whether or not Khan should have remembered Chekov, since Walter Koenig wasn't in the original episode.

That would be pretty geeky.
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Yeah I named my kids Spot and Spocks Brain.
Old 10-21-04, 01:43 PM
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That's a sketch from Kids in the Hall, you know.

[Kevin and Dave are having a conversation in a diner]
Kevin: . . . it was a great movie. It wasn't a good movie, but how often do you see a great movie?

Dave: Oh, I saw a great movie last night. It was on the late show. It was-- um, uh, what was it called? It's a classic. It's uh . . . oh, I hate this. I hate it when this happens.

Kevin: Well, what was it about?

Dave: It's about this newspaper tycoon and he's dead, and everybody is telling stories about him, and--

Kevin: It's Citizen Kane.

Dave: Nnnno, that's not it. No, no - but something like that. It's uh . . .

Kevin: Okay, who was in it?

Dave: Orson Welles is in it. It's called . . .

Kevin: Then this is Citizen Kane. It's Citizen Kane.

Dave: Nnnno, that isn't it, but you're not far from it. It's uh . . .

Kevin: Well who else was in it?

Dave: Oh, um, I dunno.

Kevin: Was Joseph Cotten in it?

Dave: What else has he been in?

Kevin: The Third Man, The Magnificent Ambersons . . .

Dave: Oh, The Magnificent Ambersons. Yes, yes, yes, he was in it, yes. That's one of my favourite Orson Welles movies.

Kevin: Well this is definitely Citizen Kane then. You're talking about Citizen Kane.

Dave: Nnnno, no, no. But it's something like that. It's ci . . . ci, ci . . . Si. Si . . . sy . . .

Kevin: No, not sy. It's ci. Ci, ci.

Dave: Sy . . . sy . . . sy . . .

Kevin: It's ci, Citizen Kane.

Dave: Sy . . . sy . . . Psycho!

Kevin: No it's not Psycho.

Dave: It's Psycho.

Kevin: No, no, no, no, it's not Psycho. Is it about a motel owner who goes crazy and kills a woman in a shower?

Dave: No, no. I just told you it's about this newspaper tycoon, he has a sled called Rosebud, and they're all trying to--

Kevin: Then I guess it wasn't Psycho, was it?

Dave: No, it wasn't Psycho . . .

Kevin: [painfully] It was Citizen Kane!

Dave: No, it was an . . . angie, angie, angela-- angels! The Trouble With Angels.

Kevin: No, no, no. It wasn't The Trouble With Angels, no. That's a Hayley Mills vehicle, that's not even close.

Dave: The Front Page!

Kevin: The Front Page is a comedy. Did you laugh once?

Dave: No.

Kevin: Then I guess it wasn't The Front Page, was it?

Dave: Well what the hell was it then?

Kevin: Look, that guy has a newspaper. I'm going to borrow it, read the tv listings, and we'll settle this once and for all.

Dave: [holding him back] Please, I want to remember this myself--

Kevin: Please, I want to settle this-- [The two argue for a second until Kevin pushes Dave back into his chair] Just sit down! [Picks up a steak knife and drives it into Dave's hand, nailing it to the table]

Dave: Oh great. That's really going to help me to think. That's great. You know what? I almost had it. I almost had it but now thanks to you, I've gone blank. Thank you very much.

Kevin: What time was it on last night?

Dave: It was 11:30. We don't need the paper . . . The Paper Chase . . . paper, paper . . . Paperback Hero . . .

Kevin: Okay, what channel?

Dave: It was channel 3. Paper. Paper . . . paper . . .

Kevin: Aha!! Look! Citizen Kane. It was Citizen Kane! It was Citizen Kane! IT WAS CITIZEN KANE!! [crumbles up newspaper and triumphantly throws it on the floor]

Dave: . . . okay, big deal. Look, would you take the knife out? Just take the knife out.

Kevin: You admit you're wrong and I'll take the knife out.

Dave: Oh c'mon, grow up! Take the knife out.

Kevin: No, no, no. You never admit you're wrong. When you admit you're wrong, I'll grow up.

Dave: You're being very immature. Would you please just take the knife out?

Kevin: Why don't you admit you're wrong? You never admit you're wrong.

Dave: You're making a fool of yourself in front of everyone, alright? Would you please take the knife out? Take the damn knife out! [Kevin finally complies. Dave clutches his wounded hand] Ow! Oh geez. Listen, um, would you mind just calling me a-- uh . . . oh, what are they called? A uh . . .

Kevin: An ambulance?

Dave: No. No, I want a uh . . . a um . . .

Kevin: Do you want two guys in a van to come take care of your hand and bring you to a hospital?

Dave: Yes. Exactly, yes.

Kevin: Then you want an ambulance.

Dave: No I don't! I want a . . . uh . . .

Kevin: It's an ambulance.

Dave: No it isn't!

Kevin: You want an ambulance.

Dave: Sh!

Kevin: It's an ambulance.

Dave: Sh!

Kevin: You want an ambulance,

Dave: Sh!

Kevin: It's an ambulance.

Dave: Sh!

Kevin: You want an ambulance.

Dave: It's a . . . uh . . .

Kevin: No, you know what you want? [picks up his steak knife and drives it repeatedly into Dave's chest] You want a mortician! You want a mortician! You want a mortician! YOU WANT A MORTICIAN!! [slumps Dave's dead body over the table] This one is on me. Check please!
Old 10-21-04, 01:47 PM
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Re: Let me tell you about frustration....

Originally posted by kvrdave


Did you really give him the book?
Old 10-21-04, 01:57 PM
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Re: Re: Let me tell you about frustration....

Originally posted by Thor Simpson


Did you really give him the book?
Yeah, I did several years ago. I just gave him the book on tape to refresh himself.

NCMojo - I have been thinking about that sketch constantly since it happened. It is spot on.
Old 10-21-04, 02:25 PM
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Here is a little more background. We were actually discussing Dan Brown's book The DaVinci Code. We all enjoyed it, but I told them that I had a few problems with it, even as a work of fiction. They didn't understand. I told them that most of the arguments that Brown used to get the conspiracy theory for the book came about from the Council of Nicea in about 325. My problem was that most of Christianity had already been "fleshed out" long before that. Even extra-biblical things like the Didache which is dated around 100. Anyway, as a result, it was hard to suspend belief and truly enjoy the book.

They didn't understand. Like most things in life, I used a Star Trek analogy. I asked them if they remembered the movie First Contact and they did. I told them that while it was a good show, there was one part that really ruined it for me. When Zephram Cochran (along with Riker and Geordi) take the Phoenix to warp for the very first time, the entire theater clapped and cheered. My first thought was, "WHAT ABOUT INERTIAL DAMPENERS????" which were invented for awhile after the first warp flight (which is also detailed in the book Federation which is what I think sparked this guy's memory.

That not making a huge impact on them, I asked if they could enjoy a conspiracy novel about JFK where part of the story includes, and assumes that everyone knows it, the fact that JFK was stabbed to death. Then they understood my point. It is hard to enjoy a historical novel (even as fiction) if some of the historical facts are clearly wrong. It just makes it harder to suspend your belief.

Anyway, I think that is what triggered his memory about this great movie that he can't remember the name of.
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Did you tell him you were quite proficient in Mok'bara. And if he didn't stop being a little bitch you would strike him down with your steel Mekleth??
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I feel your pain. I've spent quality time, on two separate occasions, with two different people, arguing that the bad guy in Lethal Weapon 2 is not "that guy from Star Wars" (Alec Guinness).

You're smarter than them so don't let it bother you.
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one solution, kill the guy. Yeah that would piss me off as well.
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My guess is he knew he was wrong, it was just "Let's Watch the Star Trek Geek Get Mad" day at work.
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NERDS.
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Yup and damn proud of it, too.
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Originally posted by Tarantino
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Re: Let me tell you about frustration....

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Everyone knows Trek sucks. Star Wars is better!
Old 10-21-04, 03:55 PM
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OK, so what was the movie with Kirk and Picard in the black hole then??


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The Phantom Menace
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Originally posted by Shannon Nutt
My guess is he knew he was wrong, it was just "Let's Watch the Star Trek Geek Get Mad" day at work.
I hate that day more than any other
Old 10-21-04, 04:08 PM
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Speaking of which...I still have that pic of a certain someone in their Picard outfit...



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