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Old 09-24-04, 05:55 PM
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My Brother Is Thinking About Working in Iraq for the Increase in Money, Good Idea?

My brother currently works in San Antonio working on cell phone towers making about $55,000 a year. He is considering temporarily moving to Iraq and working on cell towers there for about $100,000 a year. Now, with all the news of American citizens working over there being captured and tortured and killed to send a message I'm a bit worried and wondering if this is such a good idea. The pay is obviously a lot greater, but is the risk also too high? I know that not too great a percentage of the foreign workers there are getting killed, but does anyone have a good idea of the actual percentage of casualties per working citizens over there?
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Great idea. Buy life insurance. Buy a SHITLOAD of life insurance. Be sure to get the double indemnity for beheadings.
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I agree with buying a lot of life insurance because the odds he gets kills seem to be bitching high.
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the dad of a friend of mine has been over there since may and he still has his head.
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Dying aint much of a living, boy.
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I know a guy that just came back from a years worth of missionary work. He said other than this one time they got taken into custody by Iraqi police, he wasn't fearful for his life. Much props to people that do that stuff. I'd be scared shitless.
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Originally posted by Feneant
the odds he gets kills seem to be bitching high.
Well, these deaths certainly bring a lot of press, but how many workers are over there? I wouldn't say the odds are particularly high. Safer than crab fishing in Alaska, that's for sure.

I'm not saying it's not scary... particuarily with Americans being taken right out of their homes etc.

I'm guessing life insurance would be extremely expensive to get before he goes over there (they ask questions about foreign travel, etc), but yeah... worth it.

Best of luck to your friend, whatever he decides. Sounds like a great opportunity though. Tough decision to make.
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I bet he'd work on the construction of the Death Star if it meant a 40% increase in pay.
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Would any insurance company touch him if he actually did tell them where he was going for work? I mean the insurance rates must be a bitch.

If anything, I would say that unless he speaks the language or is able to blend in.. It doesn't seem worth it in the long haul.
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As a reference, here are some other dangerous jobs:

Fatality rate = annual deaths per 100,000 workers.

Alaskan shellfishing: 400
Timber cutters: 117.8
Fishers: 71.1
Pilots and navigators: 69.8
Structural metal workers: 58.2
Roofers 37


source: http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/13/pf/dangerousjobs/

It would be interesting to hear how many workers we have over there vs. deaths.

Now... we must also consider that <B>the cause of death here is VERY different</b> (duh) but just looking at the actual odds of dying.
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
Would any insurance company touch him if he actually did tell them where he was going for work?
For a price, they'll touch anything.
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Originally posted by Thor Simpson
As a reference, here are some other dangerous jobs:

Fatality rate = annual deaths per 100,000 workers.

Alaskan shellfishing: 400
Timber cutters: 117.8
Fishers: 71.1
Pilots and navigators: 69.8
Structural metal workers: 58.2
Roofers 37


source: http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/13/pf/dangerousjobs/

It would be interesting to hear how many workers we have over there vs. deaths.

Now... we must also consider that <B>the cause of death here is VERY different</b> (duh) but just looking at the actual odds of dying.
I'm pretty sure none of those guys have guys with AK-47s shooting at them all the time. I could be wrong about that though. I've never been crab fishing before.
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Originally posted by Deftones, Esq
I'm pretty sure none of those guys have guys with AK-47s shooting at them all the time.
How often are cell phone tower workers in Iraq being shot at with AK-47's right now?
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What is so dangerous about crab fishing anyways. The death toll more than doubles the 2nd spot on that list.
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He may not be able to buy insurance because it's considered a "Terrorist Zone".

I wouldn't do it. There is not currently enough protection for US workers in Iraq. When the protection is proven, then I'd do it.

If he doesn't have a family, then I'd tell him go for it, but otherwise, if he values his family, I'd stay right here in the ole boring US of A.
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What is so dangerous about crab fishing anyways. The death toll more than doubles the 2nd spot on that list.
Think about trying to haul traps up in Perfect Storm-like weather and that help is hours away if something ever happens.
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You could not pay me enough money to go over there. That's my personal preference. I doubt it helps your brother make his decision though.
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Ummm, I was making $25,000 when I lived in San Antonio, and I was living pretty high on the hog. I'm just sayin' $55k in SA ain't shabby at all! I mean, you can buy a damn nice house for less than $100k!

Keep it in the heart of Texas.

EDIT: I know a guy who puts up towers in SA. Is your brother's name Rowdy?
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You could not pay me enough money to go over there. That's my personal preference. I doubt it helps your brother make his decision though.
It may, when he realizes that YOU LIVE IN FLORIDA.
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Dubya told it's "mission accomplished" quite a while ago so I'm sure he'll be perfectly safe.
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Originally posted by dork
It may, when he realizes that YOU LIVE IN FLORIDA.
Well, I could use less humidity, so maybe I should consider heading over there.
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Your brother is obviously not using his head.
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Well, if he wants to go and does get kidnapped, the family better not start appearing in the news begging for his life.

Don't think the money is all that great for the kind of risks one faces there and the worry it causes other family members.
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I'd do it. Not only will he make 45K more, if he stays over 330 days it will be tax free.
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no way would i consider it
bad enough being away from my family that long.. but to be away, and at constant risk of death

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