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My Brother Is Thinking About Working in Iraq for the Increase in Monkey, Good Idea?

Old 09-24-04, 11:13 PM
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It isn't the risk of death that would bother me, we can all die at anytime. It's the method of death that I would rather avoid. It's also something that I wouldn't want my family to have to see and hear about in the media, or worse yet, to view my death.
Old 09-24-04, 11:27 PM
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Plus you get the added bonus of being in a really fucking miserable country. The weather sucks, there's a smidgen of tension and no porn.
Old 09-24-04, 11:29 PM
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I would advise against ANY civilians going to Iraq, or even that part of the world, at this time. It doesn't take a lot of common sense to understand the risks involved. Heck, I'm for the US government banning US citizens from going over there at this time. I am almost confused as to why this hasn't been done yet, at least for a short period of time. It's simply too big of a risk for people to go there at this time.

This is all void however if your brother is Rambo.
Old 09-24-04, 11:36 PM
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Might I sugest that your brother give it a second thought since we all know the security situation in Iraq sucks and kidnappings are on the rise as well as beheadings. I heard recently that some Egyptians as well as some Iraqi citizens were kidnapped from their offices while they were working for a phone company. Go figure
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not to mention the health damage that he will do to himself while over there.. between the conditions and the stress he will be putting himself under..
even if he comes back, he might be a wreck when he returns
Old 09-25-04, 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by Thor Simpson
How often are cell phone tower workers in Iraq being shot at with AK-47's right now?
I don't know, do you?

There's certainly alot more potential for that in the line of crab fishing, no?
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Old 09-25-04, 12:38 AM
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I'm gonna vote NO!!!
Old 09-25-04, 12:40 AM
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No money is worth it!
Old 09-25-04, 03:15 AM
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anyone else notice this is about money???

i wouldn't risk it. i have a wife and kid, ain't leaving them for any money and risking my life.

good luck to him though.
Old 09-25-04, 03:21 AM
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Not worth the risk. What the use of money if you're not around to enjoy it.
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I hate these hit and run threads. Where's the OP?
Old 09-25-04, 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by Roto
I hate these hit and run threads. Where's the OP?
I hear he went crab fishing... for the money.


[eats a cracker and a crab louie salad]
Old 09-25-04, 10:45 AM
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Re: My Brother Is Thinking About Working in Iraq for the Increase in Money, Good Idea?

Originally posted by The World is Square
. . . . does anyone have a good idea of the actual percentage of casualties per working citizens over there?
This article might get you started. From the article...
As of July 19, according to KBR, 42 employees and top-tier subcontractor employees have died while working in Iraq, another 93 have been wounded and two are missing. . . . KBR has more than 34,000 direct and subcontractor employees working in Iraq and Kuwait and the surrounding region.
(42+93+2)/34000=0.004
0.004 * 100%= 0.4%

The math doesn't totally match up... "number of killed/injured/missing KBR civilians in Iraq" over "number of KBR civilians in Iraq and Kuwait and the surrounding region"... but like I said, it's a start. My quick searching wasn't able to find exactly how many KBR civilians work just in Iraq. If you just count "KBR civilians in Iraq," the percentage will be higher, but I don't know by how much. Also, this number is only for KBR workers... other firms have civilians over there as well.

This article (which might be a good read for your brother) talks about the stresses that civilian workers face while in Iraq and upon returning.

If your brother fully understands the stresses that he'll be under while in Iraq, and he's willing to deal with them, then maybe it's a good idea for him.
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As I said in the other thread, one of my best friends who works for GSA has been working in Iraq for double-salary since February. The living conditions are a little tough but he certainly doesn't regret the decision. He stays within the military/gov't compound so there is very little threat to his safety. He will be back in a month or so.

Not only do you get the double-pay, but it is something that would probably look really good on resume for future employment.
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Re: Re: My Brother Is Thinking About Working in Iraq for the Increase in Money, Good Idea?

Originally posted by Static Cling
If your brother fully understands the stresses that he'll be under while in Iraq, and he's willing to deal with them, then maybe it's a good idea for him.

There's a LOT more to this than the money.

Some people would be miserable in the Middle East on a 2-week vacation during peace time. For others, the current complicated situation could be something they'd thrive in.
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Whether he's single or has his own family, I would advise him not to go. It's just not worth it. The situation on the ground is a mess.
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Originally posted by Jergen
\The situation on the ground is a mess.
It's not like he's going to be repairing telephone polls in Fallujah. Iraq is a big country and there are a lot of different circumstances he could be in (see Red Dog's example).
Old 09-25-04, 02:05 PM
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Make sure he doesn't go around wearing this:


or especially this...
Old 09-25-04, 02:24 PM
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For the increase in Monkey? I'm there.
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Not just an increase, but DOUBLE the monkey!
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Double? I guess you need me too then.

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Muqtada al Sadr your days are numbered. The monkeys are coming.
Old 09-25-04, 03:44 PM
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Hey, sorry about the hit and run style of the post. I completely forgot about posting it and went out last night, I come back today and there's my post.

As most people are saying no, I'd also agree that my personal opinion would be not to go as well. I really don't think I have enough influence over my brother to actually change his mind though, so I'm really kinda asking this to figure out just how worried I should be in the event he does decide to do it.
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Are your parents still around? Your mom would probably worry enough for the whole family. Unless you're the closest family member he has I don't think you need to be the one to influence his decision.

Considering the amount of monkey involved, I think he'd be bananas to go over there.

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