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Old 08-14-04, 06:20 PM
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So, uhhhh, I'm thinking scam.

I have my bigscreen for sale on the local ISP classifieds. I get this response.

Good Day,
My name is Mr.ascom smith ,I am presently located in isreal and i have companies in some west africa countries,am intreseted in buying your [61" Hitatchi Big Screen ] kindlytell me the present condition of it and the last offer price and also i will take care of the shipping my self also with the pics,so hope to read you back soonest...............

best regards....
ascom smith

This email was sent from IP address 81.199.84.131 on 8/14/2004 at 15:03:50

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Old 08-14-04, 06:25 PM
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That's terrible. Just because the guy lives in Isreal and can't write proper english, your first thought is to scam him? Take his money and not send him the TV?

For shame.

I expected better from you kvrdave.
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The ip comes from Australia.
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Originally posted by Crocker Jarmen
That's terrible. Just because the guy lives in Isreal and can't write proper english, your first thought is to scam him? Take his money and not send him the TV?

For shame.

I expected better from you kvrdave.
Make sure to blame it on one of your least favorite tenants.
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nice
Now the real question is what's replacing the [61" Hatatchi Big Screen]? I would think most DVDTalkers are more interested in that than silly email scams.
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Ask him you'll agree to the sale if only he:

1) Strips naked

2) Puts the Showgirls SE DVD on his head
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mr Smith goes to Isreal...
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Tell him to wire you the money.

Or let him know he's an idiot for telling you he was in Israel when his IP is in Australia.

You know, whichever.
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How is he going to send payment?
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I agree....play with this guy a bit.

Tell him to wire the money.

He'll say he can only send a check and that its going to be for more than the sale price and that you should send the excess back.

Tell him you'll have to wait like 90 days for the check to clear
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Often you'll see scammers using stolen credit cards to pay for merchandise. You ship it to Africa or some other legal limbo and then the police come knocking on your door. You can string him along a bit to see if he looks legit, but if he flat out insists on using a credit-card to pay then he's probably a scammer. Another sure sign is if he's willing to pay much more for the item than it would normally sell for. (Don't forget to include shipping!) Scammers rely on people's greed to quell any suspicions they might have and fast-track the sale. I'd press him for more details, but view anything he says with skepticism.

P.S. Where he wants you to send the T.V. is probably where he is, if he is a scammer. The australian account could easily have been hacked. (or it may have been sent from a free email service based in Australia)
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Originally posted by BizRodian
The ip comes from Australia.
Hmm... I find it in Israel.

IP Planet Network, LTD. (IPPLANET-DOM)
21 Yiegia Kapayim
Kiriat Arie
Petach Tikva, Israel 44930
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Oh, I didn't check. I show it being in Nigeria.

Chikezie Okwunakwe
21 Mobolaji Bank
Anthony Way Ikeja
Lagos
Nigeria
+ 234 4976493

ahbl.org says it's a source for Nigerian scams and is on a spam farm.
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http://www.terrificpets.com/scams/scam.asp?bad=14
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Interesting. A magical globe trotting IP He wants a parrot AND a TV.
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Hey what about the more relevant TV replacement question posted earlier? Whatcha gonna replace that with?
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Originally posted by BizRodian
Interesting. A magical globe trotting IP He wants a parrot AND a TV.
What's wrong with that? Can't pirates enjoy large-screen TVs too?
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Originally posted by Preacher
Hey what about the more relevant TV replacement question posted earlier? Whatcha gonna replace that with?
I am going with an infocus x1 or a Dell 2200 front projector on a dalite widescreen (I think, so far) with a diagonal size of about 109". My new media center pc will be the brains of the unit and most of the time I will use a split screen with tv on one side and computer screen on the other side, using a wireless keyboard and mouse from the safety of my couch.

Still doing lots of research.
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I wrote
The condition is nearly perfect. The bottom of the unit is where the speakers are, and the covering toward the side has had my cat use it for a scratching post a time or two, but is not really noticeable. It is bright and works just like new. I happen to be changing the room around, and it won't fit with what I am doing.

Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to buy one over there rather than ship one from here? This thing is probably 300 lbs. or so.
Just got this back.
thnks for you mailing
can i no the prices of it so i can send you the check send me you infor..........
full name,...........
Full contact..........
address............
Telephone.................
where the check will be send to.
Hope to hear from you soonest.
Best Regards
What should I say next?
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Give him a police station's address.
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Federal Bureau of Investigation
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Give him your adress and your telephone number, ask him to send the check. Once he sends it and you receive it, tell him that your bank had told you that it might be a scam, so you are sure he'll understand if you hold onto the check for 90 days before sending him the TV, unless he wants you to send the check back.

Of course, he'll most likely want you to send the check back, just string him along (I can't make it to the post office for a week, I sent it two weeks ago, what do you mean you haven't gotten it yet?, I got the check back from the postal inspectors, they want to know why I am sending you a fake check, what should I tell them, etc etc.
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Then use your one phone call in prison to call him
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derailing the topic a bit - here is the greatest example of all time of stringing along a scammer. The thread is over 10 pages - but well worth it:

http://outdoorsbest.zeroforum.com/ze...=200606&page=1
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If you want to see the stringing along of scammers (though exclusively Nigerian scams), check out www.419eater.com

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