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Old 08-10-04, 03:09 PM
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I want to learn a second language...suggestion on how

As the subject mentions I'm interested in learning a second language, but I don't want to take any classes per se.

Any suggestions for good CD programs, videos/dvds, books that will aid be in becoming fluent?
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Foreign chick who speaks the language you wish to learn.
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Go to the library I'm sure they have some good langauge learning books
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I've recently been working my way through Pimsleur's Spanish I course and found it to be very useful. I had taken Spanish in high school, but until this point had forgotten most of it. Although Pimsleur is on the expenisve side ($234 for the first of three courses), I think it is one of the best ways to learn a language without classes. You can find more info on amazon's site:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...books&n=507846
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any specific language?
or just want to know a second one
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Originally posted by eXcentris
Foreign chick who speaks the language you wish to learn.
You can't learn French simply from kissing
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Transparent Language had very good results back in the day when I still sold software.

I would probably start with conversational or travelers language learning. To become truly fluent, you're going to need a native speaker.
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You can't learn French simply from kissing
Maybe not but practicing tongue action is mandatory in order to become a cunning linguist.
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www.berlitz.us

You can download the first few lessons of their online or cd program to see if it's what you want to do.
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Thanks, it's Spanish by the way. Not looking for foreign or domestic chicks to teach or learn anything from, thank you very much.

I've heard of Pimsleur so I'll check out that on and the others you guys mentioned. Thanks!
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Are you a good self studier? Then go to a major bookstore like Barnes and Noble, they'll have a ton of books / CDs to help you learn. You might also consider a subscription to a Spanish language magazine, something that you'll read. Cosmopolitan, Good Housekeeping (Buen Hogar), and Reader's Digest all have Spanish language versions. Then also rent / buy & watch some Spanish language DVDs to get used to how the language is spoken, if interested in good Spanish language DVDs I can give you a list of some. Some better ones are Open Your Eyes (Abre Los Ojos), any of Pedro Almodovar's movies, Like Water for Chocolate, Tango (not a great plot, but a beautiful movie to watch), and The Grandfather.

If you need somebody pushing you, consider taking Spanish courses at a local college / University. If you don't need the credit talk to the teacher, he may let you sit in on the course.

And if you can swing it, spend a month or two in a Spanish language speaking country, you won't master the language in that time but it'll help.

Buenos suerte!
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local community college (and then look for a foreign girl who speaks the language you're learning and who wants to better her English)
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Oh, and watch Sabado Gigante.
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Pimsleur series = teh win


http://www.languagetapes.com/
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Originally posted by dick_grayson
local community college (and then look for a foreign girl who speaks the language you're learning and who wants to better her English)
Ok, but I'm a straight girl so I'd be looking for a foreign boy. But I get your point.
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Immersion. As much as possible.

3 different skills: Speaking, reading (writing), and listening.

Listening may just prove to be the hardest depending on the language. Start early to train the ear.
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If you want to learn Japanese I suggest you watch hours and hours of anime. Yup.. that will get it in your head..


KAWAII!!!!11
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Originally posted by iggystar
Ok, but I'm a straight girl so I'd be looking for a foreign boy. But I get your point.
Then look at the Spanish language version of Cosmo or Good Housekeeping (Buen Hogar), if one of those interests you pick up a year's subscription and start reading. You will be lost at first, but as you wade through the articles you will be surpised at how much you pick up (assuming you are referencing a dictionary to help you with key words that you don't know).

Another thing I did was to study Spanish poetry, try out Gustavo Adolfo Becquer for starters, here are a couple of his poems (memorize them, they are short and good):

Por una mirada, un mundo,
por una sonrisa, un cielo,
por un beso... ¡yo no sé
que te diera por un beso!

¿Qué es poesía?, dices mientras clavas
en mi pupila tu pupila azul.
¿Que es poesía?, Y tú me lo preguntas?
Poesía... eres tú.

And José de Espronceda’s Canción del pirata is pretty good too. It’s a very long one, here is a portion of it:

Allá muevan feroz guerra
ciegos reyes
por un palmo más de tierra;
que yo aquí tengo por mío
cuanto abarca el mar bravío,
a quien nadie impuso leyes.

Y no hay playa,
sea cualquiera,
ni bandera
de esplendor,
que no sienta
mi derecho
y dé pecho
a mi valor.

Que es mi barco mi tesoro,
que es mi dios la libertad,
mi ley, la fuerza y el viento,
mi única patria, la mar.

You can see the full text at a number of sites, here is one of them: http://users.ipfw.edu/jehle/poesia/pirata.htm

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Originally posted by iggystar
Ok, but I'm a straight girl so I'd be looking for a foreign boy. But I get your point.
yes, sorry. some dude earlier posted something about "meet a hot foreign girl" so I just assumed. Either way, community colleges have some pretty intensive language programs. Same with local universities. studying at home is pretty difficult. taking a class helps insure you're work harder (at least in my case). Also, I studyied abroad in college and that helped me learn the language than my college classes did.
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Heat & Jackskeleton pretty much covers the basic ground of learning foreigh language....

i'm not much of a reader nor self-study kind of person...
i used movies & music to trained my hearing/listening as well as speaking, school/books for reading & writting... also, surrounding yourself with people who read/speak that particular language that you're interested in, might your biggest asset to quick-learn your way in.....
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I'm also doing Pimsleurs approach to spanish. I do each lessons two nights in a row and it surprised me how good they are. The only downside is you mostly learn words and pronunciation, you don't learn much in terms of grammar and syntax, but it is definitely worth it.

I suggest that once you can understand enough spanish to get a spanish grammar book to complete your education.
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There are DVD's that help.

The company is called Standard Devients. I have the first two. It is done in a fun way and makes the learning easier. You may also wish to get a CD set (I have a set, but can't recall the name). You read the lesson, and then listen to the CD (a good idea when driving).
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Originally posted by Heat
Por una mirada, un mundo,
por una sonrisa, un cielo,
por un beso... ¡yo no sé
que te diera por un beso!
This stanza reminds me a lot of a part of one of Shakira's songs, "No creo":

"Solo creo en tu sonrisa azul
En tu mirada de cristal
En los besos que me das
Y en todo lo que digas"

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