The 'Low Carb Diet' Thread pt VIII
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The 'Low Carb Diet' Thread pt VIII
The 'Low Carb Diet' thread pt VII
Atkins Thread pt I
low carb diet Thread pt II
low carb diet pt III
low carb diet pt IV
low carb diet pt V
low carb diet pt VI
low carb diet pt VII
Otters Currently On a Low Carb Diet
twikoff - no specific low carb diet
cwikoff - no specific low carb diet
Billy Madison
So_Cal_SAHM - south beach diet
Seeker
nickdawgy
Chrisedge
darkflounder - south beach diet
Lateralus
GatorDeb - south beach diet
hail2dking - atkins
Mr. Music - atkins
Caoimhin - south beach diet
tommy28 - atkins
Cusm - south beach diet
Advice Given in Part I of the thread
1. read the books
2. consult a doctor
3. use the ketone strips to test
4. exercise
5. take supplements
6. drink lots of water
7. also count your calories
8. if atkins diet is too strict, there are MANY other good atkins like diets that have a little more lienancy in them.
Suggested Links
www.atkinsdiet.com
www.synergydiet.com
www.lowcarb.ca
http://forum.lowcarber.org/
http://atkinscenter.com/why/debunking-the-myths.html
http://www.canada.com/health/story.h...2C92FE2B789%7D
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/5169516.htm
Suggested Reading
New Diet Revolution
Quick and Easy New Diet Cookbook
Food/Drink Suggestions
http://www.camacdonald.com/lc/LowCar...ng-Recipes.htm
http://www.lowcarbeating.com/
Atkins Thread pt I
low carb diet Thread pt II
low carb diet pt III
low carb diet pt IV
low carb diet pt V
low carb diet pt VI
low carb diet pt VII
Otters Currently On a Low Carb Diet
twikoff - no specific low carb diet
cwikoff - no specific low carb diet
Billy Madison
So_Cal_SAHM - south beach diet
Seeker
nickdawgy
Chrisedge
darkflounder - south beach diet
Lateralus
GatorDeb - south beach diet
hail2dking - atkins
Mr. Music - atkins
Caoimhin - south beach diet
tommy28 - atkins
Cusm - south beach diet
Advice Given in Part I of the thread
1. read the books
2. consult a doctor
3. use the ketone strips to test
4. exercise
5. take supplements
6. drink lots of water
7. also count your calories
8. if atkins diet is too strict, there are MANY other good atkins like diets that have a little more lienancy in them.
Suggested Links
www.atkinsdiet.com
www.synergydiet.com
www.lowcarb.ca
http://forum.lowcarber.org/
http://atkinscenter.com/why/debunking-the-myths.html
http://www.canada.com/health/story.h...2C92FE2B789%7D
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/5169516.htm
Suggested Reading
New Diet Revolution
Quick and Easy New Diet Cookbook
Food/Drink Suggestions
http://www.camacdonald.com/lc/LowCar...ng-Recipes.htm
http://www.lowcarbeating.com/
The Atkins Process
Phase 1: Induction
Restrict carbohydrate consumption to 20 grams each day, obtaining carbohydrate primarily from salad and other non-starchy vegetables.
Phase 2: Ongoing Weight Loss (OWL)
Add carbohydrate, in the form of nutrient-dense and fiber-rich foods, by increasing to 25 grams daily the first week, 30 grams daily the next week and so on until weight loss stops. Then subtract 5 grams of carbohydrate from your daily intake so that you continue sustained, moderate weight loss.
Phase 3: Pre-Maintenance
Make the transition from weight loss to weight maintenance by increasing the daily carbohydrate intake in 10-gram increments each week so long as very gradual weight loss is maintained.
Phase 4: Lifetime Maintenance
Select from a wide variety of foods while controlling carbohydrate intake to ensure weight maintenance and a sense of well-being. This lifestyle is the foundation for a lifetime of better health.
Unlike a diet, the Atkins Nutritional ApproachTM is a lifetime nutritional philosophy, focusing on the consumption of nutrient-dense, unprocessed foods and vitanutrient supplementation. Moreover, Atkins restricts processed/refined carbohydrates (which make up more than 50 percent of many people's diets), such as high-sugar foods, breads, pasta, cereal and starchy vegetables. Core vitanutrient supplementation includes a full-spectrum multivitamin and an essential oils/fatty acid formula. This nutritional philosophy has been embraced by an estimated 20 million people worldwide since the release of Dr. Atkins’ Diet Revolution in the 1970s, and is the cornerstone of the treatment protocols for patients of The Atkins Center for Complementary Medicine in New York City.
The Atkins Nutritional PrinciplesTM
Four principles form the core of the Atkins Nutritional ApproachTM and are supported by a solid foundation of medical and nutritional scientific research.
1. You will lose weight. It’s hard not to. Both men and women who follow the Atkins approach to weight loss readily take off pounds and inches. For the small numbers who have a truly hard-core metabolic resistance to weight loss, there are ways to overcome the barriers that prevent a successful outcome. Optimizing body weight is a valuable element of any health-oriented program because, by and large, being significantly overweight is an indicator of health problems, either now or in the future. When you've pared pounds, you'll see benefits flow in to take their place—and they'll be more than merely cosmetic.
2 You will maintain your weight loss. This is where the Atkins Nutritional ApproachTM leaves most other weight-control programs in the dust. Almost every experienced dieter has embarked on a weight-loss program, worked hard at it, lost a lot of pounds and gained them all back in a few months or perhaps a year. This is usually due to the expected consequence of low-fat, low-calorie diets: hunger. Although many people can tolerate hunger for a while, very few can tolerate it for a lifetime. Deprivation is no fun. Once the biological gap between hunger and fulfillment grows too large, the rebound can be rapid, as well as heartbreaking and humiliating. But that’s the problem with diets that restrict quantities. The Atkins program refuses to accept hunger as a way of life. People who do Atkins gradually find their effective individual level of carbohydrate intake, the tool that allows them to maintain a healthy weight for a lifetime.
3. You will achieve good health. The change is amazing. With Atkins, you meet your nutritional needs by eating healthy, wholesome foods and omitting junk food. As a result, fatigue drops from your shoulders like a heavy winter coat you mistakenly wore in summer. This occurs not merely because the pounds drop off, but because the physical consequences of a truly dysfunctional blood-sugar and insulin metabolism are reversed. People who do Atkins start feeling good long before they reach their goal weight. Once they abandon the catastrophic American diet of refined carbohydrates for whole, unrefined food, they start to live again.
4. You will lay the permanent groundwork for disease prevention. You will change your life, which—believe it or not—is even more important than looking good on the beach next summer. By following an individualized controlled carbohydrate nutritional approach that results in lower insulin production, people at high risk for chronic illnesses such as cardiovascular disease, hypertension and diabetes will see a marked improvement in their clinical parameters. All the rest of us won't have to become high-risk candidates for disease. It’s as simple as that
Phase 1: Induction
Restrict carbohydrate consumption to 20 grams each day, obtaining carbohydrate primarily from salad and other non-starchy vegetables.
Phase 2: Ongoing Weight Loss (OWL)
Add carbohydrate, in the form of nutrient-dense and fiber-rich foods, by increasing to 25 grams daily the first week, 30 grams daily the next week and so on until weight loss stops. Then subtract 5 grams of carbohydrate from your daily intake so that you continue sustained, moderate weight loss.
Phase 3: Pre-Maintenance
Make the transition from weight loss to weight maintenance by increasing the daily carbohydrate intake in 10-gram increments each week so long as very gradual weight loss is maintained.
Phase 4: Lifetime Maintenance
Select from a wide variety of foods while controlling carbohydrate intake to ensure weight maintenance and a sense of well-being. This lifestyle is the foundation for a lifetime of better health.
Unlike a diet, the Atkins Nutritional ApproachTM is a lifetime nutritional philosophy, focusing on the consumption of nutrient-dense, unprocessed foods and vitanutrient supplementation. Moreover, Atkins restricts processed/refined carbohydrates (which make up more than 50 percent of many people's diets), such as high-sugar foods, breads, pasta, cereal and starchy vegetables. Core vitanutrient supplementation includes a full-spectrum multivitamin and an essential oils/fatty acid formula. This nutritional philosophy has been embraced by an estimated 20 million people worldwide since the release of Dr. Atkins’ Diet Revolution in the 1970s, and is the cornerstone of the treatment protocols for patients of The Atkins Center for Complementary Medicine in New York City.
The Atkins Nutritional PrinciplesTM
Four principles form the core of the Atkins Nutritional ApproachTM and are supported by a solid foundation of medical and nutritional scientific research.
1. You will lose weight. It’s hard not to. Both men and women who follow the Atkins approach to weight loss readily take off pounds and inches. For the small numbers who have a truly hard-core metabolic resistance to weight loss, there are ways to overcome the barriers that prevent a successful outcome. Optimizing body weight is a valuable element of any health-oriented program because, by and large, being significantly overweight is an indicator of health problems, either now or in the future. When you've pared pounds, you'll see benefits flow in to take their place—and they'll be more than merely cosmetic.
2 You will maintain your weight loss. This is where the Atkins Nutritional ApproachTM leaves most other weight-control programs in the dust. Almost every experienced dieter has embarked on a weight-loss program, worked hard at it, lost a lot of pounds and gained them all back in a few months or perhaps a year. This is usually due to the expected consequence of low-fat, low-calorie diets: hunger. Although many people can tolerate hunger for a while, very few can tolerate it for a lifetime. Deprivation is no fun. Once the biological gap between hunger and fulfillment grows too large, the rebound can be rapid, as well as heartbreaking and humiliating. But that’s the problem with diets that restrict quantities. The Atkins program refuses to accept hunger as a way of life. People who do Atkins gradually find their effective individual level of carbohydrate intake, the tool that allows them to maintain a healthy weight for a lifetime.
3. You will achieve good health. The change is amazing. With Atkins, you meet your nutritional needs by eating healthy, wholesome foods and omitting junk food. As a result, fatigue drops from your shoulders like a heavy winter coat you mistakenly wore in summer. This occurs not merely because the pounds drop off, but because the physical consequences of a truly dysfunctional blood-sugar and insulin metabolism are reversed. People who do Atkins start feeling good long before they reach their goal weight. Once they abandon the catastrophic American diet of refined carbohydrates for whole, unrefined food, they start to live again.
4. You will lay the permanent groundwork for disease prevention. You will change your life, which—believe it or not—is even more important than looking good on the beach next summer. By following an individualized controlled carbohydrate nutritional approach that results in lower insulin production, people at high risk for chronic illnesses such as cardiovascular disease, hypertension and diabetes will see a marked improvement in their clinical parameters. All the rest of us won't have to become high-risk candidates for disease. It’s as simple as that
Last edited by twikoff; 02-13-04 at 04:03 PM.
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Atkin's Diet has become the generic term used for most low carb diet.. but as you can see, there are many different low carb diets to chose from..
here is a site with a list of low carb diets and writeups on them
http://www.lowcarbdiets.com/cgi-bin/...sort=sortfield
http://weightloss.about.com/cs/lowcarb/
http://www.diet-i.com/diets/high-protein-diets.htm
Some low carb diets
Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution: Robert C. Atkins
Protein Power: Michael R. Eades, Mary Dan Eades
The Zone: Barry Sears, Bill Lawren
Starch Madness: Richard L. Heinrich
The Schwarzbein Principle: Diana Schwarzbein
The Ketogenic Diet: Lyle McDonald
Neanderthin: Ray V. Audette, Troy Gilchrist
Syndrome X: Jack Challem, Burt Berkson
Eat Yourself Slim: Michel Montignac
Sugar Busters: Steward, Bethea, Andrews
The Carbohydrate Addict's Diet: Heller, Heller
Suzanne Somers' Eat Great, Lose Weight: Somers, Hamel
The Soy Zone: Dr. Barry Sears
South Beach Diet
here is a site with a list of low carb diets and writeups on them
http://www.lowcarbdiets.com/cgi-bin/...sort=sortfield
http://weightloss.about.com/cs/lowcarb/
http://www.diet-i.com/diets/high-protein-diets.htm
Some low carb diets
Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution: Robert C. Atkins
Protein Power: Michael R. Eades, Mary Dan Eades
The Zone: Barry Sears, Bill Lawren
Starch Madness: Richard L. Heinrich
The Schwarzbein Principle: Diana Schwarzbein
The Ketogenic Diet: Lyle McDonald
Neanderthin: Ray V. Audette, Troy Gilchrist
Syndrome X: Jack Challem, Burt Berkson
Eat Yourself Slim: Michel Montignac
Sugar Busters: Steward, Bethea, Andrews
The Carbohydrate Addict's Diet: Heller, Heller
Suzanne Somers' Eat Great, Lose Weight: Somers, Hamel
The Soy Zone: Dr. Barry Sears
South Beach Diet
Last edited by twikoff; 01-22-04 at 09:01 PM.
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I completely wiped out the list of other forum members currently on low carb diets..
if you are on one, and want your name added (back).. go ahead and post, and Ill put it in..
unless someone offers to handle an updates post.. Im leaving that out of this part.
if you are on one, and want your name added (back).. go ahead and post, and Ill put it in..
unless someone offers to handle an updates post.. Im leaving that out of this part.
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I'm on the low carb kick again. Haven't bought any of the books, but I'm trying to keep a close eye on my net carbs. Making an effort to keep them below 20 for a while.
The whole net carb thing still confuses me actually. When I did this back in 95-96 I looked at total carbs and just cut them out. Now I have to calculate the net carbs in food... ugh!
One question... The wraps at subway that have 6 net carbs.. what kind of tortilla are they using? I want some of those for home, but couldn't find anything that looked like it was that low in carbs. We bought a pack of whole wheat tortillas, but I'm not sure if these are ok or not.
The whole net carb thing still confuses me actually. When I did this back in 95-96 I looked at total carbs and just cut them out. Now I have to calculate the net carbs in food... ugh!
One question... The wraps at subway that have 6 net carbs.. what kind of tortilla are they using? I want some of those for home, but couldn't find anything that looked like it was that low in carbs. We bought a pack of whole wheat tortillas, but I'm not sure if these are ok or not.
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Originally posted by So_Cal_SAHM
Where I live you can get low carb tortillas as Trader Joe's and I think I saw some at Vons the other day.
Where I live you can get low carb tortillas as Trader Joe's and I think I saw some at Vons the other day.
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Aug 06, 2003 212 lbs
Jan 21, 2004 172 lbs
40 lbs lost
At goal, (I want to weigh between 170-175)
Still doing the "atkins" thing 90% of the time to stay at my goal...
Jan 21, 2004 172 lbs
40 lbs lost
At goal, (I want to weigh between 170-175)
Still doing the "atkins" thing 90% of the time to stay at my goal...
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Originally posted by Seeker
I'm still trying - not doing well, but maybe being on a list will help!
I'm still trying - not doing well, but maybe being on a list will help!

if you think it will help.. you've been added

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anyone that never looked at the updates table in the other threads.. go back and look at Part VII and see how well so many otters have done.. I think that was one of the big sources of encouragement
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My advice. Always have "allowed" foods close by. Once you are done with induction, get Sugar Free Jello, Sugar Free Candy, keep some cheese and nuts in the house and at work. If you don't have something "allowable", you'll cheat. Diet drinks help with the sugar cravings you might get. You will feel more full, by snacking tiny amounts more often. Keep an eye on how much snacking though, (nuts and cheese can really add up, if you pig out)
It can be done, and it can be very rewarding. It's nice to have to buy new clothes because none of your old ones fit.
It can be done, and it can be very rewarding. It's nice to have to buy new clothes because none of your old ones fit.
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Originally posted by Billy Madison
If I'm not on the list Twikoff, throw me on there. Started at 242 last weekend. Down to 236 as of today.
The goal is close to 200, maybe 190.
If I'm not on the list Twikoff, throw me on there. Started at 242 last weekend. Down to 236 as of today.
The goal is close to 200, maybe 190.
see.. up there in the first post ^

how long have you been on? are you following one of the specific plans?
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hmmmmmmmm
*light bulb*
maybe for people following one of the specific low carb diet plans.. I should put which one they are on, next to their name in the list above.....
*light bulb*
maybe for people following one of the specific low carb diet plans.. I should put which one they are on, next to their name in the list above.....
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not sure if Ive tried it before or not..
but in my desk right now.. I have 2 slim fast bars.. 1 chocolate brownie and 1 chocolate peanut butter.. both 2 grams each
and 2 pure De-lite bars.. 1 milk chocolate w/ almonds and 1 milk chocolate with mint... both 3 grams each
good to keep around for snacks.. especially since its hard to sneak away for lunch alot of the time.
Corrie has been buying up a bunch of different types of low carb bars.. so we could test them all and see which ones we like
but in my desk right now.. I have 2 slim fast bars.. 1 chocolate brownie and 1 chocolate peanut butter.. both 2 grams each
and 2 pure De-lite bars.. 1 milk chocolate w/ almonds and 1 milk chocolate with mint... both 3 grams each
good to keep around for snacks.. especially since its hard to sneak away for lunch alot of the time.
Corrie has been buying up a bunch of different types of low carb bars.. so we could test them all and see which ones we like
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Since you already added me you can put SBD (South Beach Diet) next to my name 
I'm not going to post my weight but I will post losses and gains
I started on 1/19/04
Edited to add: Goal 25 pounds - Down 5.4 pounds

I'm not going to post my weight but I will post losses and gains

I started on 1/19/04
Edited to add: Goal 25 pounds - Down 5.4 pounds
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Originally posted by twikoff
how long have you been on? are you following one of the specific plans?
how long have you been on? are you following one of the specific plans?
No specific plan, just started up Monday.
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Originally posted by twikoff
not sure if Ive tried it before or not..
but in my desk right now.. I have 2 slim fast bars.. 1 chocolate brownie and 1 chocolate peanut butter.. both 2 grams each
and 2 pure De-lite bars.. 1 milk chocolate w/ almonds and 1 milk chocolate with mint... both 3 grams each
good to keep around for snacks.. especially since its hard to sneak away for lunch alot of the time.
Corrie has been buying up a bunch of different types of low carb bars.. so we could test them all and see which ones we like
not sure if Ive tried it before or not..
but in my desk right now.. I have 2 slim fast bars.. 1 chocolate brownie and 1 chocolate peanut butter.. both 2 grams each
and 2 pure De-lite bars.. 1 milk chocolate w/ almonds and 1 milk chocolate with mint... both 3 grams each
good to keep around for snacks.. especially since its hard to sneak away for lunch alot of the time.
Corrie has been buying up a bunch of different types of low carb bars.. so we could test them all and see which ones we like
Those chocolate peanut butter things are real good. I usually have jerkey around to snack on during the day, and maybe one of the low carb bars here and there.
Hey, what's the word on Alcohol? Poker night is tonight and I'd have to have to chug water all night long. How about a Jack, Vodka or some other mix with diet coke/diet Dr. Pepper?
Last edited by Billy Madison; 01-23-04 at 11:50 AM.
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I was on it a few months ago, and went from ~225 down to 195. I tried getting back on at the beginning of the week, but it didn't work too well. It was my second week of nursing school, and I also 3rd shift full time. I made the mistake of trying to revert into ketosis when my energy level was already low due to lack of sleep, so I bottomed out and had to load up on carbs just to make it through the day. I may be hopping back on sunday or monday, since I won't be working those days. I'd like to get back down to ~170.