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Old 04-11-18, 03:45 PM
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What went down was forty or fifty years of not liking each other.

This album, from last year is fantastic,
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It's the whole band minus Stevie Nicks, and she's not missed.
I found it curious last year when they released it that they just didn't call it a Fleetwood Mac album. I mean the called the Say You Will album they made without Christine a FM album. I didn't really see the difference.
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I have to admit that even though I'm a huge Nicks/Buckingham era FM fan, I am just now getting into the Welch era stuff and liking it. There even a couple hits in there that I didn't even realize were FM back when I first heard them as a kid (and had not heard them since given you rarely, if ever, here any FM from before the Nicks era). Still not much into the Green era though. Prefer the covers of those songs, or Buckingham doing them live, over the original version with Green.
Few years back I picked up the Kiln House album. I'd never heard the album before but immediately recognized the song "Station Man". It must have been a staple of 70s FM rock stations. I'd heard it several times someplace.
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To my mind, no Mac album comes close to Buckingham's Out of the Cradle, or for that matter any of his solo albums that followed it. Gift of Screws, Seeds We Sow, Under the Skin, all are superb. I can do without F.M., but not without Buckingham.
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FM is nothing more than a touring nostalgia act, and has been for years. Which is fine for anyone who wants to see Greatest Hits Live in a big arena at exorbitant ticket prices, but meh. At this point FM without Buckingham is like Eagles without Frey. A last-gasp moneygrab effort.
Don Henley, as big of a giant douche as he is, found the only person alive with the chops, the voice, and the credibility to replace Frey in Vince Gill, then invited Deacon along to save face.
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I found it curious last year when they released it that they just didn't call it a Fleetwood Mac album. I mean the called the Say You Will album they made without Christine a FM album. I didn't really see the difference.
They released an FM album without Buckingham in the 90s as well. It tanked.
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They released an FM album without Buckingham in the 90s as well. It tanked.
My guess is that unlike in the 90s when Lindsey had quit, and in the 00s when Christine had retired, they still considered Stevie a part of the band so they didn't want to name it a FM album b/c of that.
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They released an FM album without Buckingham in the 90s as well. It tanked.
AND sucked.
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Old 04-22-18, 08:23 PM
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There is a fantastic documentary about Nicks streaming on Amazon now call "Stevie Nicks - Through the Looking Glass". With some great Fleetwood Mac footage and interviews. Highly recommend you seek this out if you're a fan like me
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Fleetwood Mac North American Tour

October 3 - Tulsa, OK @ BOK Center
October 6 - Chicago, IL @ United Center
October 10 - Louisville, KY @ KFC Yum! Center
October 12 - Lincoln, NE @ Pinnacle Bank Arena
October 14 - Des Moines, IA @ Wells Fargo Arena
October 16 - Indianapolis, IN @ Bankers Life Fieldhouse
October 18 - Kansas City, MO @ Sprint Center
October 20 - St. Louis, MO @ Scottrade Center
October 22 - St. Paul, MN @ Xcel Energy Center
October 26 - Cleveland, OH @ Quicken Loans Arena
October 28 - Milwaukee, WI @ Wisconsin Entertainment and Sports Center
October 30 - Detroit, MI @ Little Caesars Arena
November 1 - Pittsburgh, PA @ PPG Paints Arena
November 3 - Ottawa, ON @ Canadian Tire Centre
November 5 - Toronto, ON @ Air Canada Centre
November 7 - Columbus, OH @ Nationwide Arena
November 10 - Edmonton, AB @ Rogers Place
November 12 - Calgary, AB @ Scotiabank Saddledome
November 14 - Vancouver, BC @ Rogers Arena
November 17 - Tacoma, WA @ Tacoma Dome
November 19 - Portland, OR @ Moda Center
November 21 - San Jose, CA @ SAP Center at San Jose
November 23 - Sacramento, CA @ Golden 1 Center
November 25 - Oakland, CA @ Oracle Arena
November 28 - Phoenix, AZ @ Talking Stick Resort Arena
November 30 - Las Vegas, NV @ T-Mobile Arena
December 3 - Denver, CO @ Pepsi Center
December 6 - Fresno, CA @ Save Mart Center
December 8 - San Diego, CA @ Viejas Arena
December 11 - Inglewood, CA @ The Forum
December 13 - Inglewood, CA @ The Forum
February 5, 2019 - Houston, TX @ Toyota Center
February 7 - Dallas, TX @ American Airlines Center
February 9 - Austin, TX @ Frank Erwin Center
February 13 - Birmingham, AL @ Legacy Arena at The BJCC
February 16 - New Orleans, LA @ Smoothie King Center
February 18 - Tampa, FL @ Amalie Arena
February 20 - Ft. Lauderdale, FL @ BB&T Center
February 22 - Columbia, SC @ Colonial Life Arena
February 24 - Charlotte, NC @ Spectrum Center
February 27 - Nashville, TN @ Bridgestone Arena
March 3 - Atlanta, GA @ Philips Arena
March 5 - Washington, DC @ Capital One Arena
March 9 - Atlantic City, NJ @ Boardwalk Hall
March 11 - New York, NY @ Madison Square Garden
March 13 - Newark, NJ @ Prudential Center
March 15 - Hartford, CT @ XL CENTER
March 20 - Albany, NY @ Times Union Center
March 24 - Baltimore, MD @ Royal Farms Arena
March 26 - Buffalo, NY @ KeyBank Center
March 31 - Boston, MA @ TD Garden
April 5 - Philadelphia, PA @ Wells Fargo Center
Was looking forward to this tour... but without Lindsey... I don't know...
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I think it may be ambitious to book arenas as big as those.
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I think it may be ambitious to book arenas as big as those.
It’s the same places they’ve played since 2009.
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A little over a month ago, the majority of Fleetwood Mac – Stevie Nicks, Christine McVie, John McVie and Mick Fleetwood – quietly gathered at a little theater in Maui with their future in doubt. The band had secretly parted ways with Lindsey Buckingham, the longtime guitarist and voice behind many of their most enduring songs. According to the group, the split came down to a scheduling conflict surrounding a world tour. “We were supposed to go into rehearsal in June and he wanted to put it off until November [2019],” says Nicks. “That’s a long time. I just did 70 shows [on a solo tour]. As soon as I finish one thing, I dive back into another. Why would we stop? We don’t want to stop playing music. We don’t have anything else to do. This is what we do.”

So instead, they invited Mike Campbell, the former guitarist of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, and Crowded House frontman Neil Finn and spent a few days workshopping tunes from their vast catalog to see if this new lineup had the right chemistry. “I immediately felt like I’d known them for years,” says Christine McVie, “even though we’d only just met.”

The new lineup will embark on a massive 52-date tour beginning October 3rd in Tulsa and criss-crossing the country before wrapping up in Phladelphia in April 2019. Tickets for the tour go on sale Friday, May 4th at 10 a.m. local time.

Nobody in the group is quite willing to say Buckingham was “fired,” but they don’t completely object to the term. “Words like ‘fired’ are ugly references as far as I’m concerned,” says Fleetwood. “Not to hedge around, but we arrived at the impasse of hitting a brick wall. This was not a happy situation for us in terms of the logistics of a functioning band. To that purpose, we made a decision that we could not go on with him. Majority rules in term of what we need to do as a band and go forward.” Buckingham did not respond to multiple requests for comment for this story.

Buckingham’s ousting marks the latest messy chapter in the ongoing 50-year Fleetwood Mac story – or, as drummer Mick Fleetwood tells it, business as usual. When key early members like Peter Green and Jeremy Spencer left the group in the early 1970s, Fleetwood got right on the phone and recruited new ones. The group never stopped working, even when Nicks left in the early 1990s and a new lineup found themselves opening up for the likes of REO Speedwagon on the state fair circuit. “There’s no doubt that my instincts, for better or worse, have always been to gravitate towards going forward,” Fleetwood tells Rolling Stone. “Having said that, I’d be lying if I didn’t literally say to myself, ‘This one needs a lot of thought.’”

One of the first people that came to mind was Campbell, who was at his home on the Hawaiian island of Kauai when the call came. It happened to be his 68th birthday. “I was sitting in my yard by my pool contemplating my future without my partner [Tom Petty], which was going to be a dark place in a lot of ways,” he says. “ I said, ‘Give me a day to think it over.’ The more I thought about it, the more I though it could be great. I’ve known Stevie for years and we’ve always been very creative together.”

Not long after getting a commitment from Campbell, Fleetwood called up Finn at his New Zealand home. The singer had enormous success in the 1970s and 1980s with his bands Split Enz and Crowded House, but he was now earning a comfortable living as a solo artist with a devoted cult following. Getting back in the arena rock game was the last thing on his mind. “I was stunned when I got the call from Mick,” he says. “I was enjoying my life and my music, but I have a restless nature and now I’m relishing this beautiful gift that’s been given to me.”

The group has yet to begin formal rehearsals - which they say will last two months working five days a week - but they've already decided that this tour will feature songs from the entire history of Fleetwood Mac, not just the original Buckingham/Nicks run from 1975 to 1987. “We were never able to do that since 1975 because certain people in the band weren’t interested in doing that,” says Nicks. “Now we’re able to open the set with a lot; a raucous version of [1969’s] ‘Rattlesnake Shake’ or something. I’d also like to do [1970’s] ‘Station Man,’ which has always been one of may favorites. We’re definitely doing [1970’s] ‘Oh Well.’”

How does this all feel to bassist John McVie, the guy that put the “Mac” in Fleetwood Mac but speaks so infrequently that most fans don’t even know what his voice sounds like? “I felt very comfortable when we rehearsed,” he says. “It seemed to fit. It’s another exciting chapter in the book, in the saga.”

The expanded set, however, doesn’t mean they’ll be neglecting the big radio hits like “Gold Dust Woman” and “The Chain.” “There are 10 hits we have to do,” says Nicks. “That leaves another 13 songs if you want to do a three-hour show. Then you crochet them all together and you make a great sequence and you have something that nobody has seen before except all the things they want to see are there. At rehearsal, we’re going to put up a board of 60 songs. Then we start with number one and we go through and we play everything. Slowly you start taking songs off and you start to see your set come together.”

The band realizes that a Fleetwood Mac tour without Buckingham will be a different experience, but they soldiered on without him on the 1987 Tango In The Night tour and didn’t see a big decline in attendance. They also had 16 years of successful road work without Christine McVie when she left in 1998. She came back for the 2015 On With The Show tour, and last year recorded an album with Buckingham that they supported with a long tour that wrapped up just five months ago. “I had a great time with him on the road and making that record,” she says. “I was surprised to hear the news because it happened after I went back to London that the decision was made. But life moves on and I wanted to carry on with these guys.”

For Nicks, carrying on without Buckingham is bittersweet. “Our relationship has always been volatile,” she says. “We were never married, but we might as well have been. Some couples get divorced after 40 years. They break their kids' hearts and destroy everyone around them because it’s just hard. This is sad for me, but I want the next 10 years of my life to be really fun and happy. I want to get up every day and dance around my apartment and smile and say, ‘Thank God for this amazing life.’”
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I was going to buy a ticket today... but they are charging MORE than they did the last tour when Christine came back. The same seat I sat in last time is $50 more. Forget it. I'm not paying more without Buckingham. If anything, I'll see what prices are like the week of the show. It is almost a year out anyway.
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Reminder : Tickets for all shows go on sale tomorrow.

I'm a total hypocrite. I got a Pre-sale email and ended up buying tickets for the Vegas show. I wasn't planning on it, but the seats were so damn good (front floor section middle, Row v). I know it's not the complete line up but damn I love the band too much to miss out on this.

Coincidentally, I ran into my acquaintance who work on a previous tour for them. I asked him about the Lindsey Buckingham thing. He said he wasn't at all surprised and that while Lindsay is an amazing musician, he's really an asshole IRL and a total diva. He wasn't at all surprised by the move or by the fact that he was replaced by two guys who worked on Stevie solo projects.
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Lindsey Buckingham spoke about his firing from Fleetwood Mac for the first time when the guitarist performed Friday night at a California campaign fundraiser.

"It's been an interesting time on a lot of levels," Buckingham said at the fundraiser supporting Democratic congressional candidate Mike Levin (via Jeremy Roberts).

"For me, personally, probably some of you know that for the last three months I have sadly taken leave of my band of 43 years, Fleetwood Mac. This was not something that was really my doing or my choice."

"I think what you would say is that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective," Buckingham continued. "The point is that they'd lost their perspective. What that did was to harm – and this is the only thing I'm really sad about, the rest of it becomes an opportunity – it harmed the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build, and that legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill one's higher truth and one's higher destiny."

Buckingham, who weaved his remarks about the Fleetwood Mac firing into a speech supporting Levin, remained diplomatic about the rift with his now-former bandmates, even sidestepping an audience member who yelled "Fuck Stevie Nicks."

The brief comments were Buckingham's first on the matter since Fleetwood Mac announced in April that the band recruited the Heartbreakers' Mike Campbell and Crowded House's Neil Finn to replace Buckingham, who reportedly didn't want to embark on a Mac tour this year.

"Words like 'fired' are ugly references as far as I'm concerned," Mick Fleetwood told Rolling Stone in April. "Not to hedge around, but we arrived at the impasse of hitting a brick wall. This was not a happy situation for us in terms of the logistics of a functioning band. To that purpose, we made a decision that we could not go on with him. Majority rules in term of what we need to do as a band and go forward."

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This is getting ugly. Well, uglier. Buckingham makes it sound like it's more than a scheduling issue. And if that's true, why did he need to wait so long? That "Fuck Stevie Nicks" comment from that person in the audience was rude and obnoxious. And I personally think he should have told them "That's not necessary!".

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As far as we understand it, the main reason Fleetwood Mac fired Lindsey Buckingham was due to his desire to focus his efforts on his solo career, rather than join the band for another tour. Incidentally, this fall Buckingham will go head to head with his former bandmates, as he’s just announced a solo tour that’s scheduled to kick off just days after Fleetwood Mac begin their own North American outing.

The lengthy jaunt comes in support of Buckingham’s new Solo Anthology – The Best of Lindsey Buckingham. Available digitally, as a single-disc abridged set, or as an expanded 3-CD or 6-LP box set, the comprehensive record includes album, live, and alternate versions of of Lindsey’s solo recordings, collaborations, and film compositions. It will be available digitally and on CD beginning October 5th, with a vinyl release following on November 23rd. Pre-orders are ongoing.

See Buckingham’s upcoming tour schedule below. Tickets go on sale Friday, August 17th.

Lindsey Buckingham 2018 Tour Dates:
10/07 – Portland, OR @ Revolution Hall
10/09 – San Francisco, CA @ Palace of Fine Arts
10/12 – Los Angeles, CA @ Orpheum Theatre
10/13 – San Diego, CA @ Spreckels Theatre
10/15 – Boulder, CO @ Boulder Theater
10/17 – Chicago, IL @ Athenaeum Theater
10/18 – Munhall, PA @ Carnegie Music Hall of Homestead
10/19 – Washington, DC @ Warner Theater
10/21 – Charlotte, NC @ Knight Theater
10/22 – Wilmington, NC @ The Wilson Center at Cape Fear Community College
10/24 – Peachtree City, GA @ Frederick Brown Jr. Amphitheater
10/26 – Clearwater, FL @ Capitol Theater
10/27 – Miami, FL @ Knight Concert Hall
10/28 – Melbourne, FL @ King Center for the Performing Arts
11/05 – Austin, TX @ Paramount Theater
11/06 – Dallas, TX @ Majestic Theater
11/08 – Tulsa, OK @ Brady Theater
11/09 – Norman, OK @ Riverwind Casino
11/10 – Salina, KS @ Stiefel Theatre for the Performing Arts
11/12 – Birmingham, AL @ Lyric Fine Arts Theatre
11/13 – Chattanooga, TN @ Walker Theatre
11/14 – Knoxville, TN @ Bijou Theatre
11/16 – Kitchener, ON @ Centre in the Square
11/17 – Ann Arbor, MI @ Michigan Theater
11/26 – North Canton, OH @ Palace Theatre
11/27 – New Tonowanda, NY @ Riviera Theatre
11/29 – New London, CT @ Garde Arts Center
11/30 – York, PA @ Appell Center for the Performing Arts
12/01 – Collingswood, NJ @ Scottish Rite Auditorium
12/04 – New York, NY @ Town Hall
12/05 – Boston, MA @ Wilbur Theatre
12/06 – Peekskill, NY @ Paramount Hudson Valley Theater
12/08 – Concord, NH @ Capitol Center
12/09 – Bethlehem, PA @ Sands Event Center
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I would rather see Lindsey by himself than Fleetwood Mac without him if I had to choose between them.
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I still amazed that so many, including Lindsey himself at times, are acting like this is the first time FM has went on without him. But hey, at least time is just a tour and they're not recording an album without him. There has been a few tours where they have been without the full FM/Rumours to Tango era lineup.
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I still amazed that so many, including Lindsey himself at times, are acting like this is the first time FM has went on without him. But hey, at least time is just a tour and they're not recording an album without him. There has been a few tours where they have been without the full FM/Rumours to Tango era lineup.
Well to be fair the first time he quit because of all of the problems that happened behind the scenes with the Tango in the Night album. This time he was fired. and this is the first time any of the core popular era Mac members were fired from the band.
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I thought he was booted because he didn't want to go on tour?
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The whole thing is stupid.

I would've loved to seen them for once in my life, but only with the whole group. No Lindsey, no go.
However, FM are only playing arenas - and I've committed to only seeing concerts in small intimate venues... especially for the ridiculous prices they're charging for tickets nowadays... so it wasn't going to happen anyway.

I'll stick to concerts on disc I guess.

It's amazing the last time the classic lineup released a studio album was 31 years ago (Tango). FM has had only 3 albums since then - one without Lindsay, one without Lindsay/Stevie, and one without Christine.
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Who cares about Fleetwood Mac. I just want a new Buckingham album.
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