Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000
(Post 11758959)
Which is kind of ironic, as anytime someone posts a new thread here (or any forum, for that matter) about any band/album, they are essentially doing rather the same thing as your example. You're throwing something out there into a large group of people and hoping someone else responds to it. Not really all that different when you think about it.
In regards to your edit, it should never stop you from trying. After all, isn't the whole point of forums to try find and engage conversation with (hopefully) like minded individuals? If you don't put it out there, you'll never know for sure one way or the other. I know doing genre subforums is a slippery slope, but I think that place could really use some more organization. |
Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by CRM114
(Post 11759080)
Please, I was watching Black Flag in a room with 40 people when you were buying Wham! 12".
Time (and music) marches on. Without us in most cases. |
Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
And you just casually dismiss the instigating remark. I see how you work, man.
I was merely illustrating the ignorance of the guy's comment - implying that my breadth of knowledge of music is limited to FM radio. It's hilarious. If only he knew. |
Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by CRM114
(Post 11759098)
And you just casually dismiss the instigating remark. I see how you work, man.
I was merely illustrating the ignorance of the guy's comment - implying that my breadth of knowledge of music is limited to FM radio. It's hilarious. If only he knew. |
Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Wilco and Foxygen are popular and well-known? To a certain extent, maybe? Well, whatever. I don't need to get suspended over something I didn't start and don't care to continue.
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Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
If you listen to music from after 1980, I don't understand why you think there's no new music. The two statements don't jive to me.
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Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
I never said that. That's what you want to read.
I said everything after 1980 (and I'm making a hyperbolic statement obviously) is built on influences of previous music. Foxygen is new but they are built on layers of Kinks, VU, and other psychedelic predecessors. They didn't create the sound out of thin air like those bands. The New York Dolls did. Roxy Music did. Etc, etc. That's all I'm saying. |
Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Music hasn't been good since [insert decade I graduated high school].
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Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by CRM114
(Post 11759129)
Wilco and Foxygen are popular and well-known? To a certain extent, maybe? Well, whatever. I don't need to get suspended over something I didn't start and don't care to continue.
So what if it's popular - if you like it, listen to it. |
Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
So is your statement:
<ul><li> Nothing great in music happened after 1980. <li> Nothing new in music happened after 1980. </ul> Either of those statements seem patently false. Did you mean to say, "I don't like any music after 1980"? |
Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by Rockmjd23
(Post 11759147)
Music hasn't been good since [insert decade I graduated high school].
This notion that the starting point was always the best makes me laugh. So should we always eat pizza the way it was first made? Drink beer the way it was first made? Watch movies in the manner they were first made? |
Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by The Bus
(Post 11759061)
Music has not been diluted or relegated. Music, as an art, has been as healthy as ever. Media, however, has been fragmented. There are less communal media experiences (where you can talk with strangers). The chance of any one person having had the same pop culture / media experience as you the night before is much lower now than it was in the 70s.
And that's fine. That lets you pursue what you want, and I can pursue what I want, instead of having both of us be subject to something that is merely OK. I don't want to go back to the days of there being three channels of content and I have to make do with something mediocre just for the sake of being able to discuss it with a coworker the next day. Same with music. But once you go into the listener level of measuring "coverage", we're looking at individual measurements: You have 24 hours in a day now, same as you did (if you were alive) in the 70s. In the 70s, the Stones coverage would have captured the majority of my attention, simply because it was on the front page of the newspaper and that would have been one of the few media outlets I would have had access to. Cut to now. I get my news from a pretty wide variety of sources, and they rarely overlap. Sometimes, two or three places will talk about a story, but it doesn't go beyond that. Until recently, with the release of <i>Yeezus</i> when there was an article or viewpoint in every one of these sources. And out of the six (or so), only one of them is even a pure music site. So there are still stories and albums and events that can capture someone's attention or time. It just doesn't mean it will capture your neighbors. (And for the sake of this argument, how many articles/reviews of that album were you exposed to?) |
Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by arminius
(Post 11759265)
Not sure if you meant what I wrote about The Stones. It wasn't an album it was the 72 tour. And it wasn't reviews so much as front page coverage of the entire tour.
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Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by The Bus
(Post 11759284)
But you are talking about a single event. Not every tour of every band was written about, right?
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Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Funny that a thread making fun of the SHF has turned into a "I'm a bigger music snob than you" thread.
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Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by bunkaroo
(Post 11759085)
I agree here, except that the constant churn due to things like the umpteenth thread about what the Beatles ate during the Abbey Road sessions makes it harder to connect with like-minded individuals. Also, sometimes you don't go somewhere to specifically talk about something, but rather just see what the conversations are and jump in when interested. That's where the Hoffman forums are mostly useless me. Even I liked the Beatles or the Monkees, I sure as hell wouldn't need to post a new thread about them every week.
I know doing genre subforums is a slippery slope, but I think that place could really use some more organization. |
Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by cungar
(Post 11759339)
Funny that a thread making fun of the SHF has turned into a "I'm a bigger music snob than you" thread.
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Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by CRM114
(Post 11758762)
Well, everything great in music did happen before 1980. ;) Just sayin'.
Originally Posted by CRM114
(Post 11758827)
I also believe the 1970's was the greatest era for filmmaking as well.
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Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by The Bus
(Post 11759182)
So is your statement:
<ul><li> Nothing great in music happened after 1980. <li> Nothing new in music happened after 1980. </ul> Either of those statements seem patently false. Did you mean to say, "I don't like any music after 1980"? And regarding your last statement, hello, you must be new here. :lol: |
Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by printerati
(Post 11759893)
So, basically, the Blaxploitation, pre-Rap era. I see where you're going with this, racist!
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Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
I feel like I'm reading a thread from the SHM forums.
Say what you want, but those forums are active. They may not be your cup of tea but this place isn't for everyone either. (And, I don't mean that in the negative sense but more like one man's trash is another man's treasure.) |
Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
I guess it would be one thing if say the first 5 pages there of threads were all different topics of which I a had little interest. The problem is a significant amount of threads are about a handful of artists. Maybe they should just create a Beatles/Wings/solo works subforum and a Monkees subforum. :D
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Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Originally Posted by bunkaroo
(Post 11759954)
I guess it would be one thing if say the first 5 pages there of threads were all different topics of which I a had little interest. The problem is a significant amount of threads are about a handful of artists. Maybe they should just create a Beatles/Wings/solo works subforum and a Monkees subforum. :D
I see other bands get listed it's just threads fall off the main pages fast but they still get searched out. Just start a thread or two on the bands/music you like, they will come. |
Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
Yeah, there are a lot of interesting threads there, you just have to hunt for them because it's such an active forum (I'll often open a thread on the first page and by the time I'm done reading it, the thread has already been pushed back to the second or third page).
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Re: Steve Hoffman-music engineer-why the big following?
I went to the forums and got distracted, spent about two hours there. I'm not paid for my productivity.
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