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Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Recent article in Rolling Stone: "The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time"

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/li...-time-20130322

"It was fifty years ago today that the Beatles’ released their first album, Please Please Me. In honor of that world-changing LP, we’ve compiled a list of the 100 Greatest Debut Albums of All Time. A note on how we made the list: Albums got docked points if the artist went on to far greater achievements (which is why Please, Please Me and Greetings from Asbury Park, great as they are, didn't made the top ten); conversely, we gave a little extra recognition to great debut albums that the artist never matched (hello, Is This It and Illmatic!). We also skipped solo debuts by artists who were already in well-known bands, which is why you won’t see John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band or Paul Simon. We focused, instead, on debuts that gave you the thrill of an act arriving fully-formed, ready to reinvent the world in its own image."
Just the basic list...
Spoiler:

100. Lady Gaga - "The Fame"
99. The Flying Burrito Brothers - "The Gilded Palace of Sin"
98. Joe Jackson - "Look Sharp!"
97. DJ Shadow - "Endtroducing...."
96. Madonna - "Madonna"
95. Little Richard - "Here’s Little Richard"
94. The Who - "The Who Sings My Generation"
93. The Hold Steady - "Almost Killed Me"
92. Moby Grape - "Moby Grape"
91. M.I.A. - "Arular"
90. Big Star - "#1 Record"
89. Yaz - "Upstairs at Eric's"
88. Daft Punk - "Homework"
87. The New Pornographers - "Mass Romantic"
86. Kendrick Lamar - "good kid, m.A.A.d city"
85. Rage Against the Machine - "Rage Against the Machine"
84. Whitney Houston - "Whitney Houston"
83. Erik B. and Rakim - "Paid In Full"
82. The Congos - "Heart of the Congos"
81. Gang of Four - "Entertainment!"
80. The Byrds - "Mr. Tambourine Man"
79. Elvis Presley - "Elvis Presley"
78. The Stone Roses - "The Stone Roses"
77. Drake - "Thank Me Later"
76. Devo - "Are We Not Men? We Are Devo!"
75. The Go-Go's - "Beauty and the Beat"
74. The xx - "xx"
73. Norah Jones - "Come Away with Me"
72. Led Zeppelin - "Led Zeppelin"
71. Mary J. Blige - "What’s the 411"
70. PJ Harvey - "Dry"
69. Wire - "Pink Flag"
68. Talking Heads - "Talking Heads: 77"
67. 50 Cent - "Get Rich or Die Tryin"
66. The Stooges - "The Stooges"
65. Liz Phair - "Exile In Guyville"
64. The English Beat - "I Just Can’t Stop It"
63. Cyndi Lauper - "She’s So Unusual"
62. Roxy Music - "Roxy Music"
61. The Libertines - "Up the Bracket"
60. Fiona Apple - "Tidal"
59. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - "Fever to Tell"
58. Nine Inch Nails - "Pretty Hate Machine"
57. MGMT - "Oracular Spectacular"
56. Bon Iver - "For Emma, Forever Ago"
55. Missy "Misdemeanor" Elliott - "Supa Dupa Fly"
54. Metallica - "Kill 'Em All"
53. New York Dolls - "New York Dolls"
52. U2 - "Boy"
51. The Smiths - "The Smiths"
50. X - "Los Angeles"
49. Franz Ferdinand - "Franz Ferdinand"
48. Modern Lovers - "Modern Lovers"
47. Pink Floyd - "Piper At the Gates of Dawn"
46. Pearl Jam - "Ten"
45. The Jesus & Mary Chain - "Psychocandy"
44. Black Sabbath - "Black Sabbath"
43. Jeff Buckley - "Grace"
42. Oasis - "Definitely Maybe"
41. Boston - "Boston"
40. Television - "Marquee Moon"
39. Lynyrd Skynyrd - "(Pronounced 'Leh-'nérd 'Skin-'nérd)"
38. The Police - "Outlandos d’Amour"
37. Bruce Springsteen - "Greetings From Asbury, Park N.J."
36. Postal Service - "Give Up"
35. Weezer - "Weezer"
34. The Doors - "The Doors"
33. The Killers - "Hot Fuss"
32. De La Soul - "Three Feet High And Rising"
31. Portishead - "Dummy"
30. Arctic Monkeys - "Whatever People Say I Am, That’s What I’m Not"
29. Wu-Tang Clan - "Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)"
28. The B-52's - "The B-52's"
27. Van Halen - "Van Halen"
26. Run-D.M.C. - "Run-D.M.C."
25. Pavement - "Slanted and Enchanted"
24. Vampire Weekend - "Vampire Weekend"
23. The Notorious B.I.G. - "Ready to Die"
22. Violent Femmes - "Violent Femmes"
21. Elvis Costello - "My Aim Is True"
20. Joy Division - "Unknown Pleasures"
19. Kanye West - "The College Dropout"
18. R.E.M. - "Murmur"
17. The Beatles - "Please Please Me"
16. The Cars - "The Cars"
15. Arcade Fire - "Funeral"
14. Jay-Z - "Reasonable Doubt"
13. The Pretenders - "The Pretenders"
12. The Clash - "The Clash"
11. Nas - "Illmatic"
10. Patti Smith - "Horses"
9. The Band - "Music From Big Pink"
8. The Strokes - "Is This It"
7. The Sex Pistols - "Never Mind the Bollocks"
6. N.W.A. - "Straight Outta Compton"
5. The Velvet Underground - "The Velvet Underground and Nico"
4. Guns N' Roses - "Appetite for Destruction"
3. Jimi Hendrix Experience - "Are You Experienced"
2. The Ramones - "The Ramones"
1. Beastie Boys - "Licensed to Ill"
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Just like any of these kinds of lists, there are a bunch of really great ones and a bunch that they only put on there to seem relevant.
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Originally Posted by RagingBull80
Just like any of these kinds of lists, there are a bunch of really great ones and a bunch that they only put on there to seem relevant.
Agreed.
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Their criteria that albums "got docked points if the artist went on to far greater achievements" just sounds like a bad approach to this. So a band that had a solid 1st album but crap afterwards would seemingly be rated higher than a band with a solid 1st album and then went to follow it up with other solid albums.

That just doesn't make sense to me.
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Originally Posted by dhmac
albums "got docked points if the artist went on to far greater achievements"
So how did Kill 'Em All make the list?
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Originally Posted by cdollaz
So how did Kill 'Em All make the list?
I think it's meant as a progression - like, where they're at right now.
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Where is Tom Waits' Closing Time?
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Originally Posted by dhmac
Their criteria that albums "got docked points if the artist went on to far greater achievements" just sounds like a bad approach to this. So a band that had a solid 1st album but crap afterwards would seemingly be rated higher than a band with a solid 1st album and then went to follow it up with other solid albums.

That just doesn't make sense to me.
Especially considering who is at #1 and the way that rolling stone has been slobbering on their knobs since Paul's Boutique.
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Originally Posted by dhmac
Their criteria that albums "got docked points if the artist went on to far greater achievements" just sounds like a bad approach to this. So a band that had a solid 1st album but crap afterwards would seemingly be rated higher than a band with a solid 1st album and then went to follow it up with other solid albums.

That just doesn't make sense to me.
That explains the high ranking of Appetite for Destruction.
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Psychocandy should be no 1.
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Led Zeppelin at 72 and The Velvet Underground and Nico not being number one makes the list null and void to me.
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Originally Posted by Tabletopjoe
Where is Tom Waits' Closing Time?
Not on the list where it belongs.
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I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with you Todd. If there is room for Missy Elliott's Supa Dupa Fly or Drake's Thank Me Later, there is room on the list for Closing Time.
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Originally Posted by Arpeggi
Psychocandy should be no 1.
This is the correct answer.
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No Danzig = no sale
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Have to agree with Fist, Danzig I is very underrated.
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Let's see, yet another Rolling Stone list. It must be definitive then.

U2 is ranked #52
Springsteen at #37
R.E.M. kickin' around the top 20 at #18

... WAIT where's Bob Dylan? You're slipping, Wenner.
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Other possibilities:
Chemical Brothers: "Exit Planet Dust"
Funkadelic: "Free Your Mind... and Your Ass Will Follow"
King Crimson: "In the Court of the Crimson King"
Air: "Moon Safari"
The Gun Club: "Fire of Love"
Fairport Convention: S/T
Mission of Burma: "Signals, Calls and Marches"
The La's: S/T
Supergrass: "I Should Coco"
Pixies: "Surfer Rosa / Come On Pilgrim"

Roxy Music is my number one. That album came out of left field as a fully formed vision of the world that everyone is still trying to catch up to.
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Huh, that list actually included most of the ones I'd pick from my collection.

I might add "Crocodiles" from Echo and the Bunnymen.
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
Let's see, yet another Rolling Stone list. It must be definitive then.

U2 is ranked #52
Springsteen at #37
R.E.M. kickin' around the top 20 at #18

... WAIT where's Bob Dylan? You're slipping, Wenner.
Bob Dylan is my favorite artist of all time, but I can see why his debut is not on the list. Now if the "Freewheeling " album was his debut, it would be #1 on this list.

And I agree with fist of doom; no danzig= NO SALE!
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Just the list of albums behind The Killers Hot Fuss is enough to invalidate this whole list. Especially since they ripped off from a lot of those albums.
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I tend to not get too worked up about lists like these because so many are way off base. I do however find it absurd that Queen isn't on there.
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Stone Temple Pilots and The Sword are noticeably absent...
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Rolling Stone just continues to stick around so Pitchfork can't take the claim as number one shitty music source.
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Re: Rolling Stone Magazine's The 100 Best Debut Albums of All Time

Agreed with The Cars, and Arctic Monkeys, and The Killers.

However, The Doors should have been much higher than #34 and Guns and Roses should have been #1.

The Beastie Boys at #1 is a fucking joke.


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