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gerrythedon 08-31-18 09:41 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 

Josh-da-man 08-31-18 10:15 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 

hdnmickey 09-01-18 01:06 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
Yeah. If they fix the bass this would be the first of these remasters I pick up. IMO the previous CD releases of the other albums sound just fine.

Unclejosh 09-01-18 02:42 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
From everything I have read, they aren't interested in a remix so not sure if a remaster will help the bass.

hdnmickey 09-01-18 03:47 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
I thought both the lack of bass mix, and the bad original master, world both be addressed. If not, I'll skip this one as I have the others.

cultshock 09-01-18 09:39 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 

Originally Posted by Unclejosh (Post 13400202)
From everything I have read, they aren't interested in a remix so not sure if a remaster will help the bass.

I've heard that the original recordings (not sure what you call them) no longer exist, so an actual remix is no longer possible, and just a remaster could never bring the full bass tracks back into the mix. I don't know if that's true or just an excuse because Lars and James would never fix the issue for various reasons. Too bad, because I've always disliked the bass absent, dry mix of this album, I would love to see that fixed. :(

Josh-da-man 09-01-18 09:58 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
I'd buy the LP if it was remixed with proper bass. If not, I'll pass.

AJFA sounds like shit on a decent stereo set-up. I didn't notice it so much when I was thirteen and bladting on a shitty ghetto blaster with midrange speakers, but now that I have a good set-up it's nearly unlistenable.

Otherwise, it's a very good albm,

slop101 09-02-18 12:16 AM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
Metallica Won't Remix 'And Justice for All' for 30th Anniversary


According to ...And Justice for All mixer Steve Thompson, Metallica don't have plans to remix the album which was infamously bereft of Jason Newsted's bass. He broke the news on the Talk Toomey podcast, explaining, “I just contributed to the anniversary album of …And Justice [for All]. I just sent them a bunch of pictures and some outtakes, but they have no desire to remix the record. They want to keep it the way it is. They might remaster it or something like that, but there is only so much mastering you can do. And I’ll tell you the truth, I don’t even know if those original multi-tracks could be saved. Because there are like 5 million edits in them from Lars‘ drums alone. So if you have the box and open it up there probably be about 50 million pieces of tape all over the place.”
So I guess instead of "won't" remix it's more more like "can't" remix. Either way, no bass for you!!!

gerrythedon 09-05-18 10:27 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
Will post info & pictures after it's officially announced tomorrow

leaked by AMAZON


Josh-da-man 09-06-18 02:31 AM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
21 discs? :lol: Now that's fukkin' overkill!

Wonder if any of those demos have decent bass on them...

gerrythedon 09-06-18 12:24 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
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We’re guessing that this one is coming as absolutely no surprise to anyone; next up in our line of reissues is …And Justice For All! As many of you know, we’ve been rereleasing our albums remastered for the most advanced sound quality possible along with special deluxe editions including previously unreleased audio and video recordings. Next up is …Justice, coming to your favorite music retailer, Metallica.com and the Probity Merch UK/EU Metallica Shop on November 2nd with pre-orders beginning today.

Available in both physical and digital versions, there will be multiple options to suit your taste... double LP on 180-gram vinyl, CD, cassette, 3-CD expanded edition and deluxe box set, all remastered as overseen by Greg Fidelman. The 3-CD set includes the remastered album, two discs including never before released rough mixes, demos and live tracks, and an expanded booklet including unseen photos taken by the master, Ross Halfin. The limited edition, one-pressing-only deluxe box set includes the remastered CD and double LP versions of the album, “One” 10” vinyl picture disc, triple live LP set featuring a newly mixed version of the band's iconic show from Seattle ‘89 by Greg Fidelman, 4 DVDs, 11 CDs of unreleased demos, rough mixes, interviews and live tracks, many of which have never been available and were pulled from our personal collections. There’s also a 120-page hardcover book with rare and never-before-seen photos from Ross Halfin’s vaults and friends and family, along with essays by those who were with us for the madness. Still not enough? The box also includes a set of four patches, a Pushead print, a tour laminate, lyric sheets and a download card for all the audio goodies included.

Pre-order your copy now and we’ll send you a digital remastered version of “Dyers Eve,” while pre-orders of the expanded and deluxe editions will receive an additional instant download of “Eye of the Beholder (Live at Hammersmith Odeon, London, England – October 10, 1988).” Several additional instant grats will be sent to all pre-orders between now and November 2nd.

Deluxe box sets are limited edition collectors’ items, so get yours before they are gone! You may pre-order all the configurations in the Met Store now and also our store serving European fans and beyond, and of course …And Justice For All will be available at your local record stores around the world on Friday, November 2nd.



LP 1 & 2: ...And Justice for All (Remastered)

SIDE ONE
  1. Blackened
  2. ...And Justice for All
  3. Eye of the Beholder
  4. One

    SIDE TWO
  5. The Shortest Straw
  6. Harvester of Sorrow
  7. The Frayed Ends of Sanity
  8. To Live Is to Die
  9. Dyers Eve

Remastered by Reuben Cohen at Lurssen Mastering, Los Angeles, CA
Vinyl lacquers by Chris Bellman at Bernie Grundman Mastering, Hollywood, CA


LP 3: "One" 10" Picture Disc

SIDE ONE
  1. One

    SIDE TWO
  2. Seek & Destroy (Live at Reunion Arena, Dallas, TX – February 5th, 1989)

Artwork by Pushead
Remastered by Reuben Cohen at Lurssen Mastering, Los Angeles, CA


LP 4, 5 & 6: Seattle ‘89
Newly Mixed by Greg Fidelman

SIDE ONE
  1. The Ecstasy of Gold
  2. Blackened (Live)
  3. For Whom the Bell Tolls (Live)
  4. Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (Live)

    SIDE TWO
  5. Harvester of Sorrow (Live)
  6. The Four Horsemen (Live)
  7. The Thing That Should Not Be (Live)

    SIDE THREE
  8. Bass Solo (Live)
  9. Master of Puppets (Live)
  10. Fade to Black (Live)

    SIDE FOUR
  11. Seek & Destroy (Live)
  12. ...And Justice for All (Live)
  13. One (Live)

    SIDE FIVE
  14. Creeping Death (Live)
  15. Guitar Solo (Live)
  16. Battery (Live)

    SIDE SIX
  17. Encore Jam (Live)
  18. Last Caress (Live)
  19. Am I Evil? (Live)
  20. Whiplash (Live)
  21. Breadfan (Live)

Recorded live on August 29th and August 30th, 1989 at Seattle Coliseum in Seattle, WA
Mixed by Greg Fidelman
Mastered by Reuben Cohen at Lurssen Mastering, Los Angeles, CA
Vinyl lacquers by Chris Bellman at Bernie Grundman Mastering, Hollywood, CA


CD 1: ...And Justice for All (Remastered)
  1. Blackened
  2. ...And Justice for All
  3. Eye of the Beholder
  4. One
  5. The Shortest Straw
  6. Harvester of Sorrow
  7. The Frayed Ends of Sanity
  8. To Live Is to Die
  9. Dyers Eve


CD 2: Interviews
Previously Unreleased
  1. KSDT Interview with Jason
  2. Circus Magazine Interview with James
  3. KNAC Report from LA Monsters of Rock
  4. KHDX Interview with Kirk
  5. Metal Forces Magazine Interview with Lars


    CD 3 & 4: Riffs, Jams & Demos

    Disc One
    1. Blackened (1987, From James’ Riff Tapes)
    2. Blackened (1987, From James’ Riff Tapes II)
    3. …And Justice for All (1987, From James’ Riff Tapes)
    4. …And Justice for All (1988, From James’ Riff Tapes)
    5. Eye of the Beholder (1987, From James’ Riff Tapes)
    6. Eye of the Beholder (1987, From James’ Riff Tapes II)
    7. One (1987, From James’ Riff Tapes)
    8. The Shortest Straw (1986, From James’ Riff Tapes)
    9. The Shortest Straw (1986, from James’ Riff Tapes II)
    10. Harvester of Sorrow (1987, From James’ Riff Tapes)
    11. The Frayed Ends of Sanity (1987, From James’ Riff Tapes)
    12. To Live Is to Die (1986, From James’ Riff Tapes)
    13. To Live Is to Die (1988, From James’ Riff Tapes)
    14. Dyers Eve (1986, From James’ Riff Tapes)
    15. Dyers Eve (1987, From James’ Riff Tapes)
    16. Blackened (October 1987, Writing in Progress)
    17. …And Justice for All (October 1987, Writing in Progress)
    18. …And Justice for All (October 1987, Writing in Progress II)
    19. One (October 1987, Writing in Progress)
    20. The Shortest Straw (October 1987, Writing in Progress)
    21. …And Justice for All (November 1987, Writing in Progress)
    22. The Frayed Ends of Sanity (November 1987, Writing in Progress)
    23. One (November 1987, Writing in Progress)
    24. Dyers Eve (November 1987, Writing in Progress)
    25. Eye of the Beholder (November 1987, Writing in Progress)
    26. To Live Is to Die (November 1987, Writing in Progress)
    27. The Shortest Straw (December 1987, Writing in Progress)
    28. Harvester of Sorrow (December 1987, Writing in Progress)

    Disc Two
    1. Blackened (November 1987 Demo)
    2. …And Justice for All (November 1987 Demo)
    3. Eye of the Beholder (November 1987 Demo)
    4. One (November 1987 Demo)
    5. The Frayed Ends of Sanity (November 1987 Demo)
    6. Eye of the Beholder (January 1988 Demo)
    7. The Shortest Straw (January 1988 Demo)
    8. Harvester of Sorrow (January 1988 Demo)
    9. Dyers Eve (January 1988 Demo)
    10. To Live Is to Die (January 1988 Demo)


      CD 5: Rough Mixes from the Vault
      Previously Unreleased
    11. Blackened (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
    12. …And Justice for All (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
    13. Eye of the Beholder (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
    14. One (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
    15. The Shortest Straw (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
    16. Harvester of Sorrow (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
    17. The Frayed Ends of Sanity (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
    18. To Live Is to Die (Acoustic Intro) (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
    19. To Live Is to Die (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
    20. Dyers Eve (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
    21. Breadfan (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
    22. The Prince (Work in Progress Rough Mix)


    CD 6 & 7: Live at the Troubadour, West Hollywood, CA - May 24th, 1988 + B-Sides
    Previously Unreleased + Previously Available B-Sides

    Disc One
    1. Creeping Death (Live)
    2. For Whom the Bell Tolls (Live)
    3. Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (Live)
    4. The Four Horsemen (Live)
    5. Whiplash (Live)
    6. Fade to Black (Live)
    7. Seek & Destroy (Live)
    8. Master of Puppets (Live)
    9. Encore Jam (Live)
    10. Last Caress (Live)
    11. Am I Evil? (Live)
    12. Battery (Live)

    Disc Two
    1. Encore Jam #2 (Live)
    2. Harvester of Sorrow (Live)
    3. Leper Messiah (Live)
    4. Blitzkrieg (Live)

    B-Sides
  6. Breadfan (Remastered)
  7. The Prince (Remastered)
  8. For Whom the Bell Tolls (Live) *
  9. Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (Live) *
  10. Seek & Destroy (Live) *
  11. Creeping Death (Live) *
  12. Harvester of Sorrow (Live) **
  13. One (Live) **
  14. Breadfan (Live) ***
  15. Last Caress (Live) ***

* Recorded live at Reunion Arena, Dallas, TX on February 5th, 1989
** Recorded live at Seattle Coliseum, Seattle, WA on August 29th, 1989
*** Recorded live at Seattle Coliseum, Seattle, WA on August 30th, 1989


CD 8 & 9: Live at the Hammersmith Odeon, London, England - October 10th, 1988 + Radio Edits
Previously Unreleased Live Show

Disc One
  1. Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (Live)
  2. The Four Horsemen (Live)
  3. Harvester of Sorrow (Live)
  4. Eye of the Beholder (Live)
  5. Bass Solo (Live)
  6. Master of Puppets (Live)
  7. Damage, Inc. (Live)
  8. One (Live)
  9. Seek & Destroy (Live)
  10. …And Justice for All (Live)
*Note: there is a tape cut on this track

Disc Two
  1. Encore Jam (Live)
  2. Creeping Death (Live)
  3. Fade to Black (Live)
  4. Guitar Solo (Live)
  5. Battery (Live)
  6. Encore Jam #2 (Live)
  7. Last Caress (Live)
  8. Am I Evil? (Live)
  9. Whiplash (Live)

Radio Edits
  1. Eye of the Beholder (Radio Edit)
  2. One (Radio Edit)
  3. ...And Justice for All (Radio Edit)


CD 10 & 11: Live at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, CA - December 7, 1988 + More
Previously Unreleased

Disc One
  1. Blackened (Live)
    *Note: there is a tape cut on this track
  2. For Whom the Bell Tolls (Live)
  3. Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (Live)
  4. Leper Messiah (Live)
  5. Harvester of Sorrow (Live)
  6. Eye of the Beholder (Live)
  7. Bass Solo (Live)
  8. Master of Puppets (Live)
  9. One (Live)
  10. Seek & Destroy (Live)

Disc Two
  1. …And Justice for All (Live)
  2. Encore Jam (Live)
  3. Creeping Death (Live)
  4. Fade to Black (Live)
  5. Guitar Solo (Live)
  6. Battery (Live)
  7. Live at UIC Pavilion, Chicago, IL - November 18th, 1988
  8. Last Caress (Live)
  9. Am I Evil? (Live)
  10. Whiplash (Live)


DVD 1: ...And Camcorder for All & "One"
...And Camcorders for All

Featuring previously unreleased footage shot on Lars' camcorder
  1. Intro
  2. Barcelona
  3. Leiden
  4. San Francisco
  5. San Antonio
  6. Dallas
  7. Philadelphia
  8. Buffalo
  9. Auckland
  10. Osaka
  11. Hoffman Estates
  12. Richfield
  13. Thornville
  14. Greenville
  15. Atlanta
  16. Biloxi
  17. Concord
  18. Irvine (Night #2)
  19. Irvine (Night #3)
  20. São Paulo (Night #1)
  21. São Paulo (Night #2)
  22. "One"
  23. 2 of One Introduction with Lars
  24. One
  25. One (Jammin’ Version)
  26. One (Live at the 31st Annual GRAMMY® Awards)
  27. "One" B-Roll

    ]Previously Unreleased
  28. Intro
  29. Band
  30. Lars
  31. Kirk
  32. James
  33. Jason
  34. More Band


DVD 2: Live at Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, CA - September 15th, 1989
Previously Unreleased
  1. The Ecstasy of Gold
  2. Blackened
  3. For Whom the Bell Tolls
  4. Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
  5. Harvester of Sorrow
  6. The Four Horsemen
  7. The Thing That Should Not Be
  8. Bass Solo
  9. Master of Puppets
  10. Fade to Black
  11. Seek & Destroy
  12. …And Justice for All
  13. One
  14. Creeping Death
  15. Guitar Solo
  16. Battery
  17. Encore Jam
  18. Last Caress
  19. Am I Evil?
  20. Damage, Inc.
  21. Blitzkrieg
  22. Breadfan


DVD 3: Live at the Stone Balloon, Newark, DE - August 7th, 1989
Previously Unreleased Fan-Shot Footage
  1. Backstage Shit
  2. The Ecstasy of Gold
  3. Creeping Death
  4. For Whom the Bell Tolls
  5. Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
  6. The Four Horsemen
  7. Harvester of Sorrow
  8. Phantom Lord
  9. Bass Solo
  10. Master of Puppets
  11. Fade to Black
  12. No Remorse
  13. Seek & Destroy
  14. Last Caress
  15. Am I Evil?
  16. Motorbreath
  17. Hit the Lights
  18. Blitzkrieg
  19. Damage, Inc.
  20. Breadfan


DVD 4: Justice On Wheels, Masa Ito Interviews, Raw Live Footage
Justice On Wheels - A MuchMusic Documentary
  1. Intro
  2. The Road Crew
  3. The Fans
  4. The Band
  5. The Video
  6. Masa Ito Interviews
    Previously Unreleased
  7. Lars
  8. James
  9. Jason
  10. Kirk
  11. Raw Live Footage (Live at JFK Stadium, Philadelphia, PA – June 11th, 1988)

  12. Previously Unreleased
  13. Whiplash
  14. Fade to Black
  15. Seek & Destroy
  16. Raw Live Footage (Live at RPI Field House, Troy, NY – March 15th, 1989)
    Previously Unreleased
  17. Master of Puppets
  18. One
  19. Raw Live Footage (Live at Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario – April 8th, 1989)
    Previously Unreleased
  20. Master of Puppets
  21. One
  22. Seek & Destroy

gerrythedon 09-06-18 12:28 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
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stvn1974 09-06-18 12:38 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
I will pick up the $5 remastered album at Wal-Mart.

Darth Maher 09-06-18 01:13 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 13402767)
21 discs? :lol: Now that's fukkin' overkill!

Wonder if any of those demos have decent bass on them...

Maybe on the "Work in Progress Rough Mix" versions? They probably don't want to call it something that references Jason as it would be admitting to being a bad decision to mix out the bass.

cultshock 09-06-18 01:36 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
Fuck, I haven't even picked up the Ride the Lightning box set yet, and now this monster is coming in less than two months. :lol:

gerrythedon 09-06-18 01:39 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
...AND JUSTICE FOR ALL (REMASTERED) - 3-CD EXPANDED EDITION
https://www.metallica.com/store/and-...REAJFA3CD.html
Embossed & Debossed Expanded Edition of ...And Justice for All includes 3 CDs featuring the newly remastered album + previously unreleased demos, rough mixes & live tracks. Includes a 28-page booklet.

https://www.metallica.com/dw/image/v...3cd.jpg?sw=650

DISC ONE: ...AND JUSTICE FOR ALL (REMASTERED)
  1. Blackened
  2. ...And Justice for All
  3. Eye of the Beholder
  4. One
  5. The Shortest Straw
  6. Harvester of Sorrow
  7. The Frayed Ends of Sanity
  8. To Live Is to Die
  9. Dyers Eve

Remastered by Reuben Cohen at Lurssen Mastering, Los Angeles, CA.


DISC TWO: DEMOS & ROUGH MIXES
PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED
  1. Blackened (November 1987 Demo)
  2. ...And Justice for All (November 1987, Writing in Progress)
  3. Eye of the Beholder (November 1987, Writing in Progress)
  4. One (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
  5. The Shortest Straw (December 1987, Writing in Progress)
  6. Harvester of Sorrow (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
  7. The Frayed Ends of Sanity (November 1987 Demo)
  8. To Live Is to Die (Work in Progress Rough Mix)
  9. Dyers Eve (January 1988 Demo)


DISC THREE: LIVE FROM THE DAMAGED JUSTICE TOUR
PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED EXCEPT WHERE NOTED BELOW
  1. Blackened (Live – Seattle ’89)
  2. Previously released on Live Shit: Binge & Purge. Remixed by Greg Fidelman.
  3. For Whom the Bell Tolls (Live at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, CA – December 7th, 1988)
  4. Welcome Home (Sanitarium) (Live at Hammersmith Odeon, London, England – October 10th, 1988)
  5. Leper Messiah (Live at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, CA – December 7th, 1988)
  6. Harvester of Sorrow (Live at Hammersmith Odeon, London, England – October 10th, 1988)
  7. Eye of the Beholder (Live at Hammersmith Odeon, London, England – October 10th, 1988)
  8. Seek & Destroy (Live at the Troubadour, West Hollywood, CA – May 24th, 1988)
  9. Creeping Death (Live at Reunion Arena, Dallas, TX – February 5th, 1989)
  10. Previously released as a b-side to one of the many singles for One. Newly remastered.
  11. One (Live – Seattle ’89)
  12. Previously released on Live Shit: Binge & Purge. Remixed by Greg Fidelman.
  13. …And Justice for All (Live at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, CA – December 7th, 1988)
  14. Whiplash (Live at the Troubadour, West Hollywood, CA – May 24th, 1988)
  15. Breadfan (Live at Seattle Coliseum, Seattle, WA – August 30th, 1989)
  16. Previously released on The 6 1/2 Year Anniversary EP as part of The Good, The Bad & The Live box set. Newly remastered.

slop101 09-06-18 02:35 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
They couldn't throw in the couple of B-sides in the CD package?

gerrythedon 09-08-18 10:19 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
$175.50
https://www.deepdiscount.com/and-jus...l/858978005813

$179.97
https://www.bullmoose.com/p/28057501...-6lp-11cd-4dvd

Darth Maher 09-08-18 10:59 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
I hate when they do this. So if you want all the extras, you have to buy the vinyl version.

gerrythedon 09-10-18 10:26 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 

Filmed live on a camcorder at the Cow Palace in San Francisco, CA on December 10, 1988.
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gerrythedon 09-12-18 10:03 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
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Hazel Motes 09-13-18 04:04 AM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
It's crazy how many people Metallica were packing into shows by the time of the Justice tour. No radio or MTV play whatsoever, just word of mouth and non stop touring. And they were playing arenas.

slop101 09-13-18 09:59 AM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 

Originally Posted by Hazel Motes (Post 13407035)
No radio or MTV play whatsoever, just word of mouth and non stop touring.

I dunno about you, but I couldn't get away from "One", MTV and radio.

inri222 09-13-18 11:22 AM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
Couldn't watch the whole thing...

Metallica Covered Prince's 'When Doves Cry' and People Definitely Have Opinions
Was it REALLY that bad?

https://www.maxim.com/news/metallica...ves-cry-2018-9

Unclejosh 09-13-18 12:06 PM

Re: The all things METALLICA thread!
 
Yeah it was that bad.


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