2012 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees announced
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#127
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Jesus, people.
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#128
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I would have expected it from Gene, but Paul is the one who said that stupid shit about Patti Smith.
#130
DVD Talk Legend
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Based on their music - fuck no.
#131
DVD Talk Legend
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4/13/2012
i have waited up to this point to see what would become of the gnr induction into rrhof. I would like to say thank you and gracias to rrhof for the acknowledgement of our works over the years as a band. Big thanks to all my bandmates who helped get us to where we are today. And, of course, thank you to all of the people on this planet (including, but not limited to, the entire universe and beyond, etc., etc., etc.) who have supported guns n' roses from day one. Adios, amigos!
Izzy stradlin
long live rock n roll!
Izzy stradlin
long live rock n roll!
#132
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I didn't see this yesterday but the HOF issued a statement:
""We are sorry Axl will not be able to accept his induction in person," Lauren Bishop, a spokeswoman for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, said in a statement. "
Duff, Steven, Matt, and Gilby (who's not being inducted) are all in Cleveland, and it sounds like Myles Kennedy will be there, which means Slash will be there, too. So basically everybody except Axl and Izzy. That's more-or-less what I expected.
""We are sorry Axl will not be able to accept his induction in person," Lauren Bishop, a spokeswoman for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, said in a statement. "
Duff, Steven, Matt, and Gilby (who's not being inducted) are all in Cleveland, and it sounds like Myles Kennedy will be there, which means Slash will be there, too. So basically everybody except Axl and Izzy. That's more-or-less what I expected.
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The most amazing thing about KISS is how seldom their music is played on the radio and how few of their songs have stood the test of time. I would actually agree with Axl here and say their legacy has almost nothing to do with music and everything to do with their cartoon image.
#137
DVD Talk Legend
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Agreed.
Ignoring everything the band has done over the years, their image/marketing and how successful they were/are, when you get right down to the music - in my opinion, it's embarrassingly terrible.
I remember when I was around 8 or 9, my friends were listening to KISS and I thought the makeup and act was kind of neat (I was a kid after all).
I borrowed some of my friends albums and even at that young immature age I thought the music was terrible and the lyrics were juvenile... and I wasn't a boy genius reading Shakespeare or anything either.
Ignoring everything the band has done over the years, their image/marketing and how successful they were/are, when you get right down to the music - in my opinion, it's embarrassingly terrible.
I remember when I was around 8 or 9, my friends were listening to KISS and I thought the makeup and act was kind of neat (I was a kid after all).
I borrowed some of my friends albums and even at that young immature age I thought the music was terrible and the lyrics were juvenile... and I wasn't a boy genius reading Shakespeare or anything either.
#141
DVD Talk Legend
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Agreed.
Ignoring everything the band has done over the years, their image/marketing and how successful they were/are, when you get right down to the music - in my opinion, it's embarrassingly terrible.
I remember when I was around 8 or 9, my friends were listening to KISS and I thought the makeup and act was kind of neat (I was a kid after all).
I borrowed some of my friends albums and even at that young immature age I thought the music was terrible and the lyrics were juvenile... and I wasn't a boy genius reading Shakespeare or anything either.
Ignoring everything the band has done over the years, their image/marketing and how successful they were/are, when you get right down to the music - in my opinion, it's embarrassingly terrible.
I remember when I was around 8 or 9, my friends were listening to KISS and I thought the makeup and act was kind of neat (I was a kid after all).
I borrowed some of my friends albums and even at that young immature age I thought the music was terrible and the lyrics were juvenile... and I wasn't a boy genius reading Shakespeare or anything either.
#142
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Compare them to The Who, Led Zeppelin, Cheap Trick, Pink Floyd pretty much all of their top selling comtemporaries from the 70s. KISS is barely ever played on classic rock radio anymore. Those other bands are played constantly. Their legacy is not a musical one.
#143
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All I'm saying is if KISS were as great as their fans would have you think, they should have dozens of classic hits on rock radio. And it's not like they were some subversive underground band. They were one of the most commercial bands of all time. The fact is their music has simply been forgotten as a relic of the past.
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#147
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Dizzy Reed is now a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I'm looking for a smiley which can adequately convey how ridiculous that is.
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All I'm saying is if KISS were as great as their fans would have you think, they should have dozens of classic hits on rock radio. And it's not like they were some subversive underground band. They were one of the most commercial bands of all time. The fact is their music has simply been forgotten as a relic of the past.
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Guns N’ Roses Jams Way Into Rock Hall Minus Axl
The hedonistic hard rockers, who became the world’s top music act amid endless dysfunction, members of Guns N’ Roses reunited for three songs on Saturday night before 6,000 fans, many of whom were thrilled to see at least most of the band’s original lineup jam on classic hits like “Sweet Child O’ Mine” and “Paradise City.”
Rose, the band’s frontman and ringmaster of the G N’ R traveling sex, drugs and rock and roll circus, declined to attend the induction, saying he didn’t want to be part of the ceremony because it “doesn’t appear to be somewhere I’m actually wanted or respected.”
He was hardly missed.
While his decision disappointed some hardcore fans and ended any possibility of a full-scale reunion of the original lineup, guitarist Slash, bassist Duff McKagan and drummer Steve Adler performed for the first time in nearly 20 years to the delight of the sell-out crowd inside historic Public Hall.
Guns N’ Roses were one of the headliners of this year’s eclectic group of inductees, which included the Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Beastie Boys, folk icon Donovan, late singer-songwriter Laura Nyro and British bands the Small Faces and Faces.
The event lasted well into the early morning with an All-Star jam featuring some of rock’s biggest names closing the 5 1-2 hour ceremony with a stirring rendition of Stevie Wonder’s “Higher Ground.”
Hours earlier, Chili Peppers lead singer Anthony Kiedis said it was strange to be enshrined while the band was touring.
“We’re going somewhere,” Kiedis said. “How can we stop and take an award when really we’re just halfway there? But it is nice to be together with people that we spent some incredible years along the way writing songs and playing shows in little theaters and sweaty little transvestite clubs and having the time of our lives.”
Cleveland rocked without Rose.
As he inducted Guns N’ Roses, Green Day’s Billie Joe Armstrong recalled the first time he saw the band on MTV.
“I thought, one these guys could end up dead or in jail,” he said.
Guns N’ Roses came out both barrels blaring and their debut album Appetite For Destruction, shook a music world that at the time was consumed with pop ballads and dance music.
“It’s the best debut album in the history of rock and roll,” Armstrong said. “Every song hits hard. It takes you a trip to the seedy world of Los Angeles. The thing that set them apart from everyone else was guts. They never lost their edge for one second.”
Armstrong talked about each of the Guns members, talking about Slash’s mastery and Adler’s pulsive, pounding beats before pausing.
“Let’s see, who am I missing?”
The reference to Rose drew boos and catcalls that Armstrong tried to shout down.
“He’s one of the best frontmen to ever touch a microphone,” Armstrong said.
McKagan and Slash did not mention Rose during their brief remarks but then took the stage with Myles Kennedy, a member of a side project with Slash, singing lead vocals.
Like Guns N’ Roses, the Red Hot Chili Peppers emerged from Los Angeles during the 1980s when Sunset Strip’s rock scene was dominated by “hair” bands more concerned with their tight lycra pants and eyeliner than their sound. Not the Chili Peppers, who found their unique groove by blending punk, funk, rock and rap.
While their lineup has undergone some changes – founding guitarist Hillel Slovak died of a heroin overdose in 1988 – Kiedis and bassist Flea have survived personal highs and lows and the band remains one of music’s top live acts.
Kiedis said Slovak would have loved the honor.
“I think that he would have a good laugh,” Kiedis said. “Yeah, it would certainly mean something to him as he cared deeply about music and the love of the brotherhood of being in a band and being a creative force in the universe, which he is and always will be a brother in everything we do.”
Comedian Chris Rock, a longtime fan and friend of the band, inducted the Chili Peppers.
“If (Beach Boy) Brian Wilson (funkmaster) George Clinton had a kid he would be ugly,” Rock said. “But he would sound like the Red Hot Chili Peppers.”
The Chili Peppers took the stage at 1 a.m. and opened a four-song set with “By The Way” with drummer Chad Smith flanked by Jack Irons and Cliff Martinez, two former drummers with the band.
Flea gave a moving speech in which spoke of his passion to play for the musicians before him. He choked back tears as he thanked his mother.
Three white middle-class smart alecks from New York City, the Beastie Boys were initially dismissed as beer-swilling frat boys following their 1986 debut album “License To Ill,” which featured songs like “(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party!)” and “Girls.” But their follow-up, “Paul’s Boutique,” was acclaimed by critics and brought the Beasties credibility in the black hip-hop community.
“It broke the mold,” said Public Enemy’s Chuck D, later citing one of the group’s lines. “The Beastie Boys are indeed three bad brothers who made history. They brought a whole new look to rap and hip-hop. They proved that rap could come from any street – not just a few.”
Only two of the three Beasties attended the ceremony. Michael “Mike D” Diamond, Adam “Ad-Rock” Horovitz read a speech by Adam “MCA” Yauch, who has been fighting cancer.
The Beasties are just the third hip-hop act to enter the hall, joining Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five and Run DMC.
Kid Rock joined the Roots in a medley of Beastie hits, including “No Sleep ‘Til Brooklyn” and “Sabotage.”
Stevie Van Zandt, one of Bruce Springsteen’s sidemen in the E Street Band, inducted the Small Faces and Faces, bands that included Rod Stewart and Ronnie Wood, two rock superstars.
Van Zandt credited the underrated bands for having a major influence on generations of rockers. He said both were blessed to have strong lead singers in the late Steve Marriott and Rod Stewart.
“Not many bands get two lives or two of the greatest white soul singers in the history of rock and roll,” he said.
Stewart came down with the flu this week and couldn’t attend. Simply Red’s lead singer Mick Hucknall, a friend of the band, filled on three songs including the classic “Stay With Me,” with Wood, previously inducted with the Rolling Stones, delivering an exquisite slide guitar.
During a speech that was at times comical but heartfelt throughout, John Mellencamp inducted Donovan, a balladeer from the flower-power 1960s once labeled “the new Dylan.” Donovan Leitch had a string of hits in the ‘60s with “Sunshine Superman,” ‘‘Hurdy Gurdy Man” and “Mellow Yellow.”
During his remarks, Mellencamp raised the copy of Donovan’s “Fairy Tale” album he bought 47 years ago as a kid in Indiana.
“I wasn’t just listening to Donovan, I was living Donovan,” Mellencamp said. “He was my inspiration. One of the original originals.”
The influential Nyro, who died in 1997, never reached commercial success but wrote hits for other artists. She was inducted by singer Bette Midler.
“I loved her the moment I dropped the needle on the vinyl,” Midler said. “She was the very essence of New York City. Not in the gritty real sense, but in the passionate, romantic, ethereal, eternal sense.”
Carole King inducted late rock promoter Don Kirchner, who helped launch the careers of Prince and the Eagles.
Smokey Robinson inducted long-deserving backup bands for early rock artists. The groups included Buddy Holly’s The Crickets, James Brown’s The Famous Flames, Bill Hailey’s The Comets and Robinson’s The Miracles.
Rose, the band’s frontman and ringmaster of the G N’ R traveling sex, drugs and rock and roll circus, declined to attend the induction, saying he didn’t want to be part of the ceremony because it “doesn’t appear to be somewhere I’m actually wanted or respected.”
He was hardly missed.
While his decision disappointed some hardcore fans and ended any possibility of a full-scale reunion of the original lineup, guitarist Slash, bassist Duff McKagan and drummer Steve Adler performed for the first time in nearly 20 years to the delight of the sell-out crowd inside historic Public Hall.
Guns N’ Roses were one of the headliners of this year’s eclectic group of inductees, which included the Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Beastie Boys, folk icon Donovan, late singer-songwriter Laura Nyro and British bands the Small Faces and Faces.
The event lasted well into the early morning with an All-Star jam featuring some of rock’s biggest names closing the 5 1-2 hour ceremony with a stirring rendition of Stevie Wonder’s “Higher Ground.”
Hours earlier, Chili Peppers lead singer Anthony Kiedis said it was strange to be enshrined while the band was touring.
“We’re going somewhere,” Kiedis said. “How can we stop and take an award when really we’re just halfway there? But it is nice to be together with people that we spent some incredible years along the way writing songs and playing shows in little theaters and sweaty little transvestite clubs and having the time of our lives.”
Cleveland rocked without Rose.
As he inducted Guns N’ Roses, Green Day’s Billie Joe Armstrong recalled the first time he saw the band on MTV.
“I thought, one these guys could end up dead or in jail,” he said.
Guns N’ Roses came out both barrels blaring and their debut album Appetite For Destruction, shook a music world that at the time was consumed with pop ballads and dance music.
“It’s the best debut album in the history of rock and roll,” Armstrong said. “Every song hits hard. It takes you a trip to the seedy world of Los Angeles. The thing that set them apart from everyone else was guts. They never lost their edge for one second.”
Armstrong talked about each of the Guns members, talking about Slash’s mastery and Adler’s pulsive, pounding beats before pausing.
“Let’s see, who am I missing?”
The reference to Rose drew boos and catcalls that Armstrong tried to shout down.
“He’s one of the best frontmen to ever touch a microphone,” Armstrong said.
McKagan and Slash did not mention Rose during their brief remarks but then took the stage with Myles Kennedy, a member of a side project with Slash, singing lead vocals.
Like Guns N’ Roses, the Red Hot Chili Peppers emerged from Los Angeles during the 1980s when Sunset Strip’s rock scene was dominated by “hair” bands more concerned with their tight lycra pants and eyeliner than their sound. Not the Chili Peppers, who found their unique groove by blending punk, funk, rock and rap.
While their lineup has undergone some changes – founding guitarist Hillel Slovak died of a heroin overdose in 1988 – Kiedis and bassist Flea have survived personal highs and lows and the band remains one of music’s top live acts.
Kiedis said Slovak would have loved the honor.
“I think that he would have a good laugh,” Kiedis said. “Yeah, it would certainly mean something to him as he cared deeply about music and the love of the brotherhood of being in a band and being a creative force in the universe, which he is and always will be a brother in everything we do.”
Comedian Chris Rock, a longtime fan and friend of the band, inducted the Chili Peppers.
“If (Beach Boy) Brian Wilson (funkmaster) George Clinton had a kid he would be ugly,” Rock said. “But he would sound like the Red Hot Chili Peppers.”
The Chili Peppers took the stage at 1 a.m. and opened a four-song set with “By The Way” with drummer Chad Smith flanked by Jack Irons and Cliff Martinez, two former drummers with the band.
Flea gave a moving speech in which spoke of his passion to play for the musicians before him. He choked back tears as he thanked his mother.
Three white middle-class smart alecks from New York City, the Beastie Boys were initially dismissed as beer-swilling frat boys following their 1986 debut album “License To Ill,” which featured songs like “(You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party!)” and “Girls.” But their follow-up, “Paul’s Boutique,” was acclaimed by critics and brought the Beasties credibility in the black hip-hop community.
“It broke the mold,” said Public Enemy’s Chuck D, later citing one of the group’s lines. “The Beastie Boys are indeed three bad brothers who made history. They brought a whole new look to rap and hip-hop. They proved that rap could come from any street – not just a few.”
Only two of the three Beasties attended the ceremony. Michael “Mike D” Diamond, Adam “Ad-Rock” Horovitz read a speech by Adam “MCA” Yauch, who has been fighting cancer.
The Beasties are just the third hip-hop act to enter the hall, joining Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five and Run DMC.
Kid Rock joined the Roots in a medley of Beastie hits, including “No Sleep ‘Til Brooklyn” and “Sabotage.”
Stevie Van Zandt, one of Bruce Springsteen’s sidemen in the E Street Band, inducted the Small Faces and Faces, bands that included Rod Stewart and Ronnie Wood, two rock superstars.
Van Zandt credited the underrated bands for having a major influence on generations of rockers. He said both were blessed to have strong lead singers in the late Steve Marriott and Rod Stewart.
“Not many bands get two lives or two of the greatest white soul singers in the history of rock and roll,” he said.
Stewart came down with the flu this week and couldn’t attend. Simply Red’s lead singer Mick Hucknall, a friend of the band, filled on three songs including the classic “Stay With Me,” with Wood, previously inducted with the Rolling Stones, delivering an exquisite slide guitar.
During a speech that was at times comical but heartfelt throughout, John Mellencamp inducted Donovan, a balladeer from the flower-power 1960s once labeled “the new Dylan.” Donovan Leitch had a string of hits in the ‘60s with “Sunshine Superman,” ‘‘Hurdy Gurdy Man” and “Mellow Yellow.”
During his remarks, Mellencamp raised the copy of Donovan’s “Fairy Tale” album he bought 47 years ago as a kid in Indiana.
“I wasn’t just listening to Donovan, I was living Donovan,” Mellencamp said. “He was my inspiration. One of the original originals.”
The influential Nyro, who died in 1997, never reached commercial success but wrote hits for other artists. She was inducted by singer Bette Midler.
“I loved her the moment I dropped the needle on the vinyl,” Midler said. “She was the very essence of New York City. Not in the gritty real sense, but in the passionate, romantic, ethereal, eternal sense.”
Carole King inducted late rock promoter Don Kirchner, who helped launch the careers of Prince and the Eagles.
Smokey Robinson inducted long-deserving backup bands for early rock artists. The groups included Buddy Holly’s The Crickets, James Brown’s The Famous Flames, Bill Hailey’s The Comets and Robinson’s The Miracles.