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Old 08-14-11, 11:23 AM
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R.E.M. 1983 - 1992 (Murmur to Automatic for the People). Some may say up to Monster (1994) but not a great fan of that CD
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Originally Posted by k_lodge View Post
R.E.M. 1983 - 1992 (Murmur to Automatic for the People). Some may say up to Monster (1994) but not a great fan of that CD
Sorry man, they're my favorite band but it is 1983-1988 (Murmur to Green). Out of Time killed their streak. Automatic just got them back on track (however briefly).
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Sorry man, they're my favorite band but it is 1983-1988 (Murmur to Green). Out of Time killed their streak. Automatic just got them back on track (however briefly).
Any album that has "Losing My Religion" alone furthers the streak IMO. Now Monster was the one that ended it.
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I'd say REM's streak ran all the way from Murmur to New Adventures In Hi-Fi. Iron Maiden's goes from their self-titled album through Seventh Son of a Seventh Son. And Bowie's goes from Hunky Dory to Let's Dance, damn it!
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Why not The Man Who Sold The World? I think that album is better than Let's Dance (Shake It, Ricochet and the remake of Cat People ruin the album from being one of his best). If Shake It and Ricochet were replaced by Blue Jean and Loving The Alien, the two good songs off Tonight, I think LD would be up there with his best.

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The Man Who Sold The World is good, but Hunky Dory through Let's Dance is a step up from that one. The only song I don't love on Let's Dance is Cat People. I just sequence in the soundtrack version when I listen and voila!
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It's even worse in hiphop usually. Usually an artists first album is there best. They have 5-10 years of material built up to that first album and then their life gets very busy and they have to pump out their next albums every 2 years. It actually makes sense that Dr. Dre comes out with an album every 10 years and its been a classic both times. Some MCs can put out a decent album every year, but this is not the norm. Lots of one and dones.
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IMO Pink Floyd's peak ended with Wish You Were Here, rather than began with Dark Side of the Moon. And I'm on record as asserting that R.E.M.'s classic period was Chronic Town through Fables of the Reconstruction.
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Any album that has "Losing My Religion" alone furthers the streak IMO. Now Monster was the one that ended it.
One song does not make a classic album. Hell, Out of Time has several but it was a step down from their previous efforts.

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IMO Pink Floyd's peak ended with Wish You Were Here, rather than began with Dark Side of the Moon. And I'm on record as asserting that R.E.M.'s classic period was Chronic Town through Fables of the Reconstruction.
Glad to see you've moved on from only recognizing Murmur but to not include Life's Rich Pageant in their run of classic albums is absurd.
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Originally Posted by nothingfails View Post
Any album that has "Losing My Religion" alone furthers the streak IMO. Now Monster was the one that ended it.
Great single. Mediocre album.
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I would agree with that kind of. Look at the Smashing pumpkins, from 1992-2000, Great.

Now? Not so great.
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Great single. Mediocre album.
REM's "Out of Time" is the perfect example of a lousy album with one great song on it. It's the reason Napster was invented.
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Shake It, Ricochet and the remake of Cat People ruin the album from being one of his best
You sir, are insane.
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You sir, are insane.
Actually you'd have to be insane to think that Shake It is on par with Warswawa or Heroes. The singles off Let's Dance are some of his best, but that album was really the first one since Space Oddity to have any real filler on it.
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Glad to see you've moved on from only recognizing Murmur but to not include Life's Rich Pageant in their run of classic albums is absurd.
I've always loved Reckoning. I still remember the day it was released.
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REM's "Out of Time" is the perfect example of a lousy album with one great song on it. It's the reason Napster was invented.
Me In Honey, anyone? That's one of their very best songs.
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Me In Honey, anyone? That's one of their very best songs.
Yep, give me Losing My Religion and the last 4 tracks and you've got a helluva EP.
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I'm downright scared for Nightwish. 98-04 would definitely qualify as their peak. I'm hoping to hell Tuomas shakes off the ghosts of Tarja and Marcello with this new album.
I can't be the only one who prefers Annette right?
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Shake It, Ricochet and the remake of Cat People ruin the album from being one of his best
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You sir, are insane.
Color me insane too, because I loathe those tunes.

Bowie is a good example of an artist who has lasted longer than usual while maintaining a high degree of quality, but then he switched his core band every 2-3 years so it's a bit of an unfair comparison.

That said, The Fall single-handedly destroy this whole theory, seven times over .
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And I always thought that Bowie was crazy for not releasing Shake It as a single. It would have been a big hit.
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I'm surprised nobody agreed with me on U2. If "Rattle And Hum" is classic, then undoubtedly "Achtung Baby" is too. Zooropa and Pop not so much (and I actually enjoy both albums), but I think their classic period is 1983-1991 if we're going to count Rattle And Hum which is generally considered the weak link between War/Unforgettable/Joshua/Rattle/Achtung.
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Rattle and Hum is not a classic. In fact, it's the very definition of a streak-ending album. Their streak is from War-Joshua Tree, then Achtung Baby and Zooropa. But it wasn't a continuous thing like it is with some of these bands.
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Springsteen (1973-1980): The Wild, the Innocent & the E Street Shuffle through The River
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Well like I said, some bands get great second acts. Rush really came back to life with Counterparts after stinking up most of the 80s. Even the musicians in the Sam Dunn documentary said that much. Slayer are better than ever with the ever-improving Dave Lombardo back in the band. Metallica sorta got back on track. Aerosmith came roaring back in 1987 (and I doubt there will be a third act for them).

So it definitely happens. That's what separates the great bands from the pack.

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