Former WARRANT Singer JANI LANE Dead At 47
08-14-11, 10:46 PM
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I just think Limp Bizkit and co. pretty much ruined rock radio because they sucked all the soul (and I don't mean soul music) that made it such a great format for several decades. Talented bands trying something new were ignored to please those who wanted to hear tuneless samey nu-metal and rap-rock crap.
08-14-11, 10:50 PM
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Well even then that was when Maiden didn't have Dickinson and Priest didn't have Halford. Once they came back, the majors wanted them back.
I can't think of one song on CMC that actually got airplay, it was seen as the label that hoarded the hasbeens the labels dropped. But from what I heard, the owner was a fan of the bands and was happy to keep them signed, so more power to him for that.
I can't think of one song on CMC that actually got airplay, it was seen as the label that hoarded the hasbeens the labels dropped. But from what I heard, the owner was a fan of the bands and was happy to keep them signed, so more power to him for that.
And you're right about the owner. His name was Tom Lipsky and he's currently president of Roadrunner's Loud & Proud division. That's the current label of Collective Soul, Steve Miller Band and a bunch of others.
http://www.loudandproudrecords.com/
So, he's pretty much still doing what he was doing with CMC
08-14-11, 11:28 PM
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I hate to say this, but this news is about as surprising as Winehouse's passing. Lane has been a trainwreck for years. He went from superstar at age 20 to has-been at age 25 and the rest was unsuccessful coping with it. You could see it in his eyes that this guy was dead on the inside for a long time. Sad but true.
08-15-11, 01:26 PM
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Nice article from Chuck Klosterman
Klosterman Remembers Warrant's Jani Lane
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollyw...ants-jani-lane
Klosterman Remembers Warrant's Jani Lane
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollyw...ants-jani-lane
08-15-11, 01:59 PM
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That kinda reminds me of a MTV News followup back in the mid-90's where they got back in contact with a few girls who were on camera talking about how they would die for NKOTB and would be fans for life in 1989-1990. Three years later they were laughing at it and more interested in Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains.
08-15-11, 02:22 PM
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Well even then that was when Maiden didn't have Dickinson and Priest didn't have Halford. Once they came back, the majors wanted them back.
I can't think of one song on CMC that actually got airplay, it was seen as the label that hoarded the hasbeens the labels dropped. But from what I heard, the owner was a fan of the bands and was happy to keep them signed, so more power to him for that.
I can't think of one song on CMC that actually got airplay, it was seen as the label that hoarded the hasbeens the labels dropped. But from what I heard, the owner was a fan of the bands and was happy to keep them signed, so more power to him for that.
08-15-11, 02:33 PM
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What a lot of people seem to forget is that Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock and Korn did the same thing to alternative rock what alt-rock did to hair metal. I was a fan of both hair metal and alternative.... Limp Bizkit and all their cock-rock cronies turned me off rock radio for a decade... its just now that I'm beginning to warm back into their graces now that they're beginning to embrace Black Keys, Mumford, Joy Formidable and other acts that are closer to alternative rock than "nu metal". I could find actual MUSIC in the hair bands and grunge-era stuff, the rap-metal and nu-metal stuff was just soulless and heavy. As long as it "rawks" who cares if it has nothing else to offer.
Sad thing is those bands were really talented and could come up with melodic riffs and catchy guitar solos. Alternative rock was often down tuned riffs with no solos.
08-15-11, 02:47 PM
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MTV played a huge role in the downfall of hair metal. MTV ran that CHerry Pie video probably 50 times a day when it came out. I was sick of it. Also sick of Nelson and Trixter. lol I blame Trixter more than Warrant as an example of over saturation and cookie cutter bands. People were sick of the goofy lyrics, the love song acoustic ballads. The bands that stayed out of the MTV limelight tended to survive a lot longer. Tesla is a great example.
Sad thing is those bands were really talented and could come up with melodic riffs and catchy guitar solos. Alternative rock was often down tuned riffs with no solos.
Sad thing is those bands were really talented and could come up with melodic riffs and catchy guitar solos. Alternative rock was often down tuned riffs with no solos.
Who cares if the alt bands couldn't play like Jimmy Page or Eddie Van Halen on guitar, at least they had decent songs and melodies. The nu-metal crap that pretty much dominated radio for a decade was just heavy for the sake of being heavy because it masks that there was nothing beneath it. You'll hear Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains continue to get airplay 20 years later because even if they didn't have 75 second guitar solos, they were actually good songs... Limp Bizkit's music OTOH was just a bunch of noise and that's why people aren't continuing to listen to it today.
08-15-11, 03:45 PM
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My post was about how nu-metal and rap-metal did the same to alt as alt did to "hair metal". Like I said, there was good stuff in both the alt bands and the hair bands... but if you want soulless crap that made rock radio unbearable, go for nu-metal and rap-rock.
Who cares if the alt bands couldn't play like Jimmy Page or Eddie Van Halen on guitar, at least they had decent songs and melodies. The nu-metal crap that pretty much dominated radio for a decade was just heavy for the sake of being heavy because it masks that there was nothing beneath it. You'll hear Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains continue to get airplay 20 years later because even if they didn't have 75 second guitar solos, they were actually good songs... Limp Bizkit's music OTOH was just a bunch of noise and that's why people aren't continuing to listen to it today.
Who cares if the alt bands couldn't play like Jimmy Page or Eddie Van Halen on guitar, at least they had decent songs and melodies. The nu-metal crap that pretty much dominated radio for a decade was just heavy for the sake of being heavy because it masks that there was nothing beneath it. You'll hear Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains continue to get airplay 20 years later because even if they didn't have 75 second guitar solos, they were actually good songs... Limp Bizkit's music OTOH was just a bunch of noise and that's why people aren't continuing to listen to it today.
I don't think you can totally discount nu-metal. Bands like Linkin Park and Korn fall into this genre, and I think their music has staying power for future generations.
08-15-11, 04:03 PM
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Yeah I never understood the appeal of Limp Bizkit. The only thing I enjoyed from Durst was the duet with the Staind singer.
I don't think you can totally discount nu-metal. Bands like Linkin Park and Korn fall into this genre, and I think their music has staying power for future generations.
I don't think you can totally discount nu-metal. Bands like Linkin Park and Korn fall into this genre, and I think their music has staying power for future generations.
08-15-11, 06:04 PM
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Also, Warrant are infamous in that their video for "Cherry Pie" is usually used to illustrate everything that was wrong with rock music before the heaven's parted and kurt cobain and Nirvana descended on a golden chariot pulled by angels to save us from ourselves.
Hair Metal seems to have lasted longer than Nirvana type of music.
Pearl Jam is big, but all these hair bands have been able to have reality shows on t.v. and still tour. Also you have that ROCK OF AGES movie coming out. People would rather have 80's than 90's rock music.
Remember that line in THE WRESTLER?
Eh, not everyone is embarrassed about the 1980's.
FWIW, I was never a big Warrant fan, and didn't like Down Boys at all. Sad to see yet another guy who should have had the world by the balls throw it all away.
Hair Metal seems to have lasted longer than Nirvana type of music.
Pearl Jam is big, but all these hair bands have been able to have reality shows on t.v. and still tour. Also you have that ROCK OF AGES movie coming out. People would rather have 80's than 90's rock music.
Remember that line in THE WRESTLER?
Eh, not everyone is embarrassed about the 1980's.
FWIW, I was never a big Warrant fan, and didn't like Down Boys at all. Sad to see yet another guy who should have had the world by the balls throw it all away.
08-15-11, 06:08 PM
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there's nothing wrong with 80's music. Warrant and their merits to the music industry is a different story entirely.
That's like saying Creed is invaluable because they sold millions of records when everyone knows that they weren't a good band by any means, and NO ONE listens to it any more.
Oh, and people need to stop blaming Nirvana for everything.
That's like saying Creed is invaluable because they sold millions of records when everyone knows that they weren't a good band by any means, and NO ONE listens to it any more.
Oh, and people need to stop blaming Nirvana for everything.
08-16-11, 09:59 PM
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Went into nostalgia mode and listened to the first three Warrant albums today. There was a lot of great music on those records. I know it's been rumored the guitars were done by session players, but whoever played them, they did a great job.
Listening to them that close together, it's actually pretty impressive how much the band evolved in a short time. Too bad the label dropped them.
Listening to them that close together, it's actually pretty impressive how much the band evolved in a short time. Too bad the label dropped them.
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08-17-11, 06:50 PM
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Here's something strange. After learning of Jani Lane's death I bought some used CDs by Warrant and some other bands from Second Spin. One of the CDs I bought was VH1 Metal Mania Stripped Vol. 2. I got them in the mail today and the VH1 CD (which I paid $3.19 for) had been autographed by Jani Lane.
08-19-11, 04:51 PM
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I saw Warrant in concert back in ’95 at Panama City Beach when they were supporting their Ultraphobic release (which I think is one of their better albums). Jani Lane was actually on that night. He sounded great and was really cool with the fans. It’s a shame that he passed. He just seemed really sad inside the last decade.
I revisited Warrant's music after hearing about his death and there is actually some solid material there outside of the cheesier songs like Cherry Pie (which I think is horrible). Uncle Tom’s Cabin comes to mind as well as Hole in My Wall from the Dog Eat Dog album (very underrated album imo).
I revisited Warrant's music after hearing about his death and there is actually some solid material there outside of the cheesier songs like Cherry Pie (which I think is horrible). Uncle Tom’s Cabin comes to mind as well as Hole in My Wall from the Dog Eat Dog album (very underrated album imo).
08-22-11, 02:34 AM
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I haven't been visiting DVDTalk as often as I used to, so I didn't hear about this until a couple of days ago.
Sad.
Uncle Tom's Cabin and I Saw Red were on my tape of songs I could listen to forever if I was stranded on an island.
I used to have about 10 songs on a 90 min tape, same on both sides and my walkman had auto reverse so I listened to the same songs over and over and over. Finally wore out, when I got a CD burner, I made like a 15 song version, wasn't the same.
Sad.
Uncle Tom's Cabin and I Saw Red were on my tape of songs I could listen to forever if I was stranded on an island.
I used to have about 10 songs on a 90 min tape, same on both sides and my walkman had auto reverse so I listened to the same songs over and over and over. Finally wore out, when I got a CD burner, I made like a 15 song version, wasn't the same.
08-24-11, 08:00 PM
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UPDATE: TMZ.com reports that when former WARRANT singer Jani Lane's body was discovered at a California motel on August 11, no one at the scene wanted to go near him, even to check if he was still alive.
According to the audio recording of the 911 call placed by a lady at the front desk, housekeepers discovered the body, but no one would touch it to check for a pulse.
The dispatcher replied, "It would be nice to know if we can help him," but the hotel staff at the Comfort Inn hotel in Woodland Hills, California still refused.
TMZ.com previously reported that a note saying "I am Jani Lane" was found in the singer's pocket on the day he died. However, Jani, who had no official ID on him when his body was discovered, isn't believed to have written the note himself.
Law enforcement sources tell TMZ.com that the note contained a phone number for a person close to Jani, and police contacted that person after Jani's body was discovered.
Investigators have confirmed to TMZ.com that the note was written by one of Jani's friends who had placed a similar note on Jani in the past.
According to the site, members of Jani's family are furious over the fact that the person who wrote the note didn't help Lane seek treatment for the singer's substance-abuse problem instead of simply tucking a piece of paper into Jani's pants.
It's unclear if the same person who wrote the note also checked Jani into the Comfort Inn since it appears the room where Jani was discovered was not purchased by Jani himself.
An autopsy performed on Lane proved inconclusive pending the results of toxicology tests, according to the Los Angeles County coroner's office.
Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter says it may take several weeks to finalize the cause of death.
According to the audio recording of the 911 call placed by a lady at the front desk, housekeepers discovered the body, but no one would touch it to check for a pulse.
The dispatcher replied, "It would be nice to know if we can help him," but the hotel staff at the Comfort Inn hotel in Woodland Hills, California still refused.
TMZ.com previously reported that a note saying "I am Jani Lane" was found in the singer's pocket on the day he died. However, Jani, who had no official ID on him when his body was discovered, isn't believed to have written the note himself.
Law enforcement sources tell TMZ.com that the note contained a phone number for a person close to Jani, and police contacted that person after Jani's body was discovered.
Investigators have confirmed to TMZ.com that the note was written by one of Jani's friends who had placed a similar note on Jani in the past.
According to the site, members of Jani's family are furious over the fact that the person who wrote the note didn't help Lane seek treatment for the singer's substance-abuse problem instead of simply tucking a piece of paper into Jani's pants.
It's unclear if the same person who wrote the note also checked Jani into the Comfort Inn since it appears the room where Jani was discovered was not purchased by Jani himself.
An autopsy performed on Lane proved inconclusive pending the results of toxicology tests, according to the Los Angeles County coroner's office.
Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter says it may take several weeks to finalize the cause of death.
08-25-11, 04:43 PM
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my lawn, get off it.
08-25-11, 07:09 PM
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