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cungar 01-10-12 08:45 AM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 

Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000 (Post 11070678)
I've never considered Van Halen an 80's band to begin with. Since they started out in the 70's, if anything, I'd call them a 70's band.

So you'd call the Stones, the Who and Zeppelin 60s bands?

Hokeyboy 01-10-12 10:10 AM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 
It's OK. I can't say I'm blown away or impressed, but it's well produced and slightly catchy. I think it might be a grower, but definitely not a shower.


And FFS someone put that kid on a diet. :rolleyes:

d2cheer 01-10-12 12:30 PM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 11070893)
And FFS someone put that kid on a diet. :rolleyes:

:lol:



Can't say I am thrilled with it as the first one out... Really dislike the chorus as well. I had not planned picking up the new CD anyway so I guess it does not really matter.

Damone 01-10-12 01:56 PM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 
Anyone know of a presale password for NY MSG shows?

JumpCutz 01-10-12 06:37 PM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 
Meh.

Ed's tone is nice (not exactly the brown sound) but his solo is completely by the numbers. At least he's not Mr. fumble fingers... which he's been for the last dozen drunken years.

Sounds more like a DLR outtake with EVH on guitar than an actual Van Halen song though. :shrug:

Coral 01-10-12 07:35 PM

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I'm not a VH fan, but I was expecting a catchy tune of sorts at least - even if I don't care for it. But this new song has no real hook and is just bland as hell.

Rocketdog2000 01-10-12 08:19 PM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 

Originally Posted by cungar (Post 11070783)
So you'd call the Stones, the Who and Zeppelin 60s bands?

For the most part, yes. However, I think once you've bridged more than one decade as a successful band, you are no longer defined by any one decade. This would hold true for all those bands, and Van Halen. I suppose what I really meant to say, is that I would hardly refer to Van Halen as an "80s" band, or more precisely, just an "80s" band.

Rocketdog2000 01-10-12 08:22 PM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 

Originally Posted by JumpCutz (Post 11071584)
Sounds more like a DLR outtake with EVH on guitar than an actual Van Halen song though. :shrug:

Pretty much what I was thinking, other than no so much an outtake, as just a DLR solo tune in general.

auto 01-10-12 08:22 PM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 
Wait...Asia Carrera returned to porn!?

Rocketdog2000 01-10-12 08:33 PM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 

Originally Posted by The Infidel (Post 11070693)
Michael Anthony hasn't been on board in quite a while. He's actually playing in Sammy Hagar's band.

Looks like the rumor someone mentioned in the other thread is correct. This single seems to be a reworking of "Down In Flames".

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The intro to that is also very similar to their cover of "You're No Good" from VH II. (After the bass intro in the song below). The riff is somewhat, too, although at a different tempo.

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So in essence, they double dipped on musical ideas from this unreleased tune. Wouldn't be the first band to do so, and far from the last.

cungar 01-10-12 09:11 PM

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I always find it interesting that so many bands have these prolific creative streaks in the prime of their careers and then years later they try to make a comeback and can't come up with a decent new song to save themselves. It's like the creative well just dries up.

JZ1276 01-10-12 11:08 PM

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I cant believe how bad this song is. Also, David Lee Roth is a cornball.

B5Erik 01-11-12 08:23 AM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 
I like Tattoo. I think it's a good song. Not a great one, but a good one - and it's been growing on me.

My gut feeling is that it's actually one of the weaker songs on the album, but they went with it as a single because of the tempo/beat and it's somewhat accessible. And it is a song from the 70's.

Rocketdog2000 01-11-12 09:13 AM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 

Originally Posted by cungar (Post 11071754)
I always find it interesting that so many bands have these prolific creative streaks in the prime of their careers and then years later they try to make a comeback and can't come up with a decent new song to save themselves. It's like the creative well just dries up.

Yeah, but I'd rather see them dip into old, unused material of their own in doing it, than go the route of using outside songwriters to doctor up the material. I'll give them that much.

Supermallet 01-11-12 09:44 PM

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I'm shocked people aren't tearing this single apart. It's awful! Completely toothless. I can't believe they put their name to that.

Are people so desperate for new Van Halen material that they're giving this a pass?

B5Erik 01-11-12 10:56 PM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11072943)
I'm shocked people aren't tearing this single apart. It's awful! Completely toothless. I can't believe they put their name to that.

Are people so desperate for new Van Halen material that they're giving this a pass?

You do recall songs like, "Jump," and, "I'll Wait," that were released as singles, right? Talk about toothless! Tattoo is Slayer compared to those songs!

Supermallet 01-12-12 01:06 AM

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I'll Wait is a terrible song, I agree. Jump is a polished piece of pop that more importantly is a thousand times catchier than Tattoo. This song feels lazy. This isn't the song you release to re-establish one of the biggest bands in rock.

atlantamoi 01-12-12 02:58 AM

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Not a very good tune. I don't really care, though. All this DLR action at the very least keeps us from having to deal with Van Haggar.

islandclaws 01-12-12 12:28 PM

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I'm with Supermallet. I can't believe people are even giving this a pass. The lyrics are tired and uninspired, and it lacks any catchy hooks I've come to expect from the guys.

I also got my first real look at Wolfie and if I didn't know better, I'd swear he simply ate Michael Anthony in order to replace him.

SmackDaddy 01-12-12 01:15 PM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 11073544)
I also got my first real look at Wolfie and if I didn't know better, I'd swear he simply ate Michael Anthony in order to replace him.

:lol:

Sure could use some MA background vocals. Roth looks like he's trying to hard to channel himself! As for the song overall, I sort of like it. But, there's just no bite.

cungar 01-12-12 01:45 PM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 

Originally Posted by Rocketdog2000 (Post 11072110)
Yeah, but I'd rather see them dip into old, unused material of their own in doing it, than go the route of using outside songwriters to doctor up the material. I'll give them that much.

This is true. At least they didn't do a power ballad written by Diane Warren or Linda Perry. Yet.

chsidwel 01-12-12 09:00 PM

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For those who have been to the 2008 shows with DLR back with VH, do they do any Hagar era songs? Just curious. Heard sammy do tons of VH classics. VH is coming our way in March. I saw VH in '87 and '90, but have never seen the DLR version. With the new album coming out, I can't imagine there would be much room for any sammy songs in the set list.

Barth 01-12-12 09:29 PM

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I don't really mind the new song, to me it's neither awesome or terrible. It gets a bit catchy after a few listens and way better than anything they did with Cherone. That said, as others have mentioned, it sounds to me like it could have been a song on Roth's Skyscraper album.

Gerry P. 01-12-12 10:30 PM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 

Originally Posted by chsidwel (Post 11074208)
For those who have been to the 2008 shows with DLR back with VH, do they do any Hagar era songs? Just curious. Heard sammy do tons of VH classics. VH is coming our way in March. I saw VH in '87 and '90, but have never seen the DLR version. With the new album coming out, I can't imagine there would be much room for any sammy songs in the set list.

There's no way they'd bother to do Hagar-era songs.

Lateralus 01-13-12 10:06 AM

Re: Van Halen New Album
 
Got a pre-sale notice today and apparently Kool and the Gang are the opening act... I shit you not.

I'm much more interested in Asia Carrera's porn comeback than I am Van Halen.


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