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Old 02-14-11, 11:40 AM
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

What is a newspaper album supposed to be exactly? Just that the sleeve is printed from recycled newspapers or what? Also wonder why they are choosing to use 10" vinyl instead of the typical 12"?
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

Originally Posted by Mike86
What is a newspaper album supposed to be exactly? Just that the sleeve is printed from recycled newspapers or what? Also wonder why they are choosing to use 10" vinyl instead of the typical 12"?
I think they have done double 10" for many of their releases.
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

I am more than happy to buy their album for 50 bucks. It's worth it. With so much utter tripe out there, paying 100 bucks for it wouldn't be TOO far out of the question. I bought their last album in the LE for, I think, 80 or so bucks so this was an easy purchase.
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

Originally Posted by SomethingMore
Why an extra $5 for the WAV version over the 320kbps MP3s?
Higher quality + more bandwidth?
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

Paying $50 for the deluxe is my way of balancing out for the $4 I paid for HTTT.
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

Originally Posted by mkdevo
Higher quality + more bandwidth?

I think the bandwidth issue died about 10 years ago
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

Originally Posted by cungar
I think the bandwidth issue died about 10 years ago
did it? someone should tell my ISP then.
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

Originally Posted by foofighters7
I am more than happy to buy their album for 50 bucks. It's worth it. With so much utter tripe out there, paying 100 bucks for it wouldn't be TOO far out of the question. I bought their last album in the LE for, I think, 80 or so bucks so this was an easy purchase.
So, because other people release bad music, Radiohead is justified in charging $50 or more? Their music isn't that good, imo. I'll probably listen to it months after it comes out, like I did with In Rainbows.
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

Originally Posted by mkdevo
did it? someone should tell my ISP then.

The Globe and Mail - Article
The fact that Bell is able to sell 40 GB of data to wholesalers for $4.25 and still make a profit demonstrates that the true cost of data transfer is well below the 10.5 cents per gigabyte they are charging wholesalers. One TPIA provider agreed the 3 cents per gigabyte figure is probably close to the true cost.
And that's in Canada. It can only be cheaper in the US and the rest of the developed world.

Anyway, my point was that $5 extra for a practically indistinguishable increase in sound quality is kind of lame; not entirely unexpected from this band... just disappointing.
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

Originally Posted by SomethingMore
Why an extra $5 for the WAV version over the 320kbps MP3s?
I noticed that they charge more for higher quality Trash Humpers files as well: http://buy.trashhumpers.com/pages/Tr...spx?pageid=102
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

a) WTF is Trash Humpers?
b) The irony!
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

Originally Posted by SomethingMore
Why an extra $5 for the WAV version over the 320kbps MP3s?
Bandwidth?
Old 02-14-11, 05:11 PM
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

Originally Posted by SomethingMore
Anyway, my point was that $5 extra for a practically indistinguishable increase in sound quality is kind of lame; not entirely unexpected from this band... just disappointing.
I don't really understand your complaint. If you find the difference in sound quality "practically indistinguishable" then you wouldn't any premium for it, so you're not the target market for the WAVs. The option is there for people who can hear and value the difference in sound quality and most of those people expect to pay a premium.

I also don't really understand your "not entirely unexpected from this band" comment. Isn't "this band" the one that offered a previous digital album on a totally optional donation basis?
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

Originally Posted by kefrank
I don't really understand your complaint. If you find the difference in sound quality "practically indistinguishable" then you wouldn't any premium for it, so you're not the target market for the WAVs. The option is there for people who can hear and value the difference in sound quality and most of those people expect to pay a premium.
Trust me, I'm not upset or anything. I just think it's strange. I would never expect to pay a $5 premium for WAV over 320kbps. Even "How to Destroy Angels" only charged $2 for the upgrade. If the cheaper option was 160kbps or 128kbps? Sure, charge me $5 for the WAV. I don't think it's a bandwidth issue, though. It's pure greed.

I also don't really understand your "not entirely unexpected from this band" comment. Isn't "this band" the one that offered a previous digital album on a totally optional donation basis?
ehh, you're taking me too seriously. But that comment was in regard to them releasing In Rainbows in 160kbps (which is most definitely distinguishable from CD quality). At the time, fans didn't know it was going to be 160kbps until they got an email update the day before release, 9 days after most people placed their pre-orders. It wasn't a deal-breaker for anyone, I'm sure, but this new album's purchasing options are reminiscent of that vague sense of disrespect towards the fans, in my opinion.

Anyway, to each their own, right? It wasn't my intention to threadcrap or anything. Radiohead fans are happy today, so let's just enjoy that... until the album is released.
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It sucks that the CD won't be available for 6 weeks. I wish you could get the digital version for free like with "In Rainbows". Last time around I downloaded it for free and was more than happy to give them my money when they put out the CD. The same would happen this time, they would literally have to put out a CD composed of 74 minutes of the sounds of them washing dishes to get me to even consider passing on it. The CD will be mine on March 28th but I'd like to be able to listen to it in the meantime along with the rest of the world without having to buy it twice. They have the right idea with the deluxe edition preorder where you get the download to listen to until the CD ships, I just don't want to pay $48-53.

Or here's a thought: how about they push the limits of the system and actually try having a CD printed and ready to go as fast as possible? I doubt they could do it in 5 days but I'm pretty sure they could still surprise people. Didn't Jack White have an unusually-short announcement-to-physical-release timeframe with one of his side projects?

Ultimately the "pay what you want" model would have been repeated again this time around if you could actually trust people to pay for it. For every person who felt heroic for paying more (and I think that's almost as foolish as taking it for free) there was probably 100 who didn't pay anything.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
So, because other people release bad music, Radiohead is justified in charging $50 or more? Their music isn't that good, imo. I'll probably listen to it months after it comes out, like I did with In Rainbows.
Well, if people actually supported bands who are worth a damn, maybe the music industry wouldn't be filled with total crap.

And yes they are justified in charging fifty bucks or more. True fans who appreciate what they are putting out there SHOULD be willing to pay more.

For normal non-fans, maybe not, but So what? Real fans are not bitching about it because they are happy to be getting new music from one of the best bands of all time. I am happy to give them 50 bucks and hope this will keep them making good music.

I'd pay over a hundred for a new album from several of my favorite artists. Tom Waits, Foo Fighters, Radiohead, QOTSA. Thankfully I don't have to but if they made it available like Radiohead does, I probably would.
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

That makes no sense at all. The fact that a band you consider "good" doesn't automatically justify them over-pricing this album. Honestly I'm not really much of a fan of them anyways, but even bands I do like I wouldn't purchase an album from that is priced this way. It seems that all Radiohead is doing by pricing their album this way is giving a big f you to their true fans. There are people who support the "bands with talent" and the industry is still filled with crap its just something inevitable.
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

I nearly busted a nut when I found out the new album was dropping on Saturday. This is the most anticipated album ever for me, I'm a diehard Radiohead fan.
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

Originally Posted by Mike86
That makes no sense at all. The fact that a band you consider "good" doesn't automatically justify them over-pricing this album. Honestly I'm not really much of a fan of them anyways, but even bands I do like I wouldn't purchase an album from that is priced this way. It seems that all Radiohead is doing by pricing their album this way is giving a big f you to their true fans. There are people who support the "bands with talent" and the industry is still filled with crap its just something inevitable.
I'm a huge Radiohead fan and I have no interest in paying $50 for a deluxe version of their new album. But how is something like that being released taking a dump on fans? I'm sure there are other people out there that are thrilled they can get such a release.

What I am disappointed by is the fact that they aren't offering a normal CD version at the same exact time.
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I have no problems with bands releasing deluxe editions. I've bought deluxe editions of albums by Bowie, NIN, and Depeche Mode, all for more than $50. But I never thought the artist deserved more than the price of a CD simply because I like them more than most other bands. I was willing to pay more to get more, but all of those deluxe editions featured multiple discs of extra content (Blu-rays from NIN, demos, singles, and remixes from Depeche Mode, singles, different mixes, surround sound versions, and a live show from Bowie) in addition to any physical extras. Radiohead appears to be charging $50 for the same album three times plus artwork. I don't see the value in that, and I can't swallow the argument that people should pay it simply because it's Radiohead (or [insert favorite artist here]). If you feel it's worth it, great. I don't.
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Originally Posted by SomethingMore
Trust me, I'm not upset or anything. I just think it's strange. I would never expect to pay a $5 premium for WAV over 320kbps. Even "How to Destroy Angels" only charged $2 for the upgrade. If the cheaper option was 160kbps or 128kbps? Sure, charge me $5 for the WAV. I don't think it's a bandwidth issue, though. It's pure greed.
Well, the line between greed and good capitalism is always a little blurred, isn't it?


It wasn't a deal-breaker for anyone, I'm sure, but this new album's purchasing options are reminiscent of that vague sense of disrespect towards the fans, in my opinion.
I have a hard time seeing added options for being able to hear the album early as being disrespectful toward fans. It's all optional and fans who really want to hear the album early will pay for whatever option they feel is worth it. Everyone else can get the regular album on it's standard release date at regular prices. I will probably do the latter, but I certainly don't feel disrespected by the former options being available at those prices.
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I'm a huge Radiohead fan and I have no interest in paying $50 for a deluxe version of their new album. But how is something like that being released taking a dump on fans? I'm sure there are other people out there that are thrilled they can get such a release.

What I am disappointed by is the fact that they aren't offering a normal CD version at the same exact time.
It seems to be shitty towards fans because how is a 2 LP set worth $50? It has a CD with it but that shouldn't matter that much. I've bought records that were $20 or under and had a CD included with them. Social Distortion's latest album for instance was 2 LP's and came with a CD for around $20. This just seems like a cash grab by the band because they know they have enough fanboys who will be dumb enough to pay the $50. Just slapping the words deluxe edition on something doesn't automatically make it worth more money if you ask me. Also the fact that they don't appear to be offering the CD separately and only offer the over-priced record set or the digital is kind of lame. Just my opinion.

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As has been stated numerous times in this thread, THEY ARE offering the cd separately.
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Originally Posted by cdollaz
As has been stated numerous times in this thread, THEY ARE offering the cd separately.
Not only that, the CD and the LP are being released in March, BEFORE the deluxe version in May.

Some of you (not cdollaz, who I've quoted) are complaining just to complain, I think.
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Re: Radiohead LP8 (Possibly Out This Year?!)

I take back my criticism about this release. Radiohead is offering real, albeit poor, fans some reasonable options.

1. Pay $9 for the MP3s. Hear the album on Saturday.
2. Pay $14 for the WAVs. Hear the album on Saturday.
3. Pay $9 for the CD. Hear the album 5 1/2 weeks after the rest of the world.
4. Download it illegally. Hear the album on Saturday. Buy the CD eventually... maybe.

I imagine a lot of people who aren't willing to pay the $50 will go for option 4.

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