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Old 02-26-10, 11:14 AM
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I never thought the song was about him ('You're So Vain' mystery revealed)

David Geffen, apparently:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_478110.html
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The article is unconvincing. If playing the album backwards revealed the line "David Geffen, this song is about you," that'd be proof. But two syllables that sound like "David" could be pure coincidence, and even if intentional doesn't point to any particular David. Plus Geffen doesn't match the character in the song.
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In other news, Queen thinks it's fun to smoke marijuana.
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Re: I never thought the song was about him ('You're So Vain' mystery revealed)

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The article is unconvincing. If playing the album backwards revealed the line "David Geffen, this song is about you," that'd be proof. But two syllables that sound like "David" could be pure coincidence, and even if intentional doesn't point to any particular David. Plus Geffen doesn't match the character in the song.
How about if Carly Simon herself led you to the discovery:
Simon names who's 'So Vain'
Feb. 26, 2010, 9:54 AM EST
WENN- Carly Simon has ended nearly 40 years of speculation by finally naming the man who inspired her hit "You're So Vain" - her target was gay record label boss David Geffen.

The song, which catapulted the singer to fame in 1972, was rumored to be about one of her ex-boyfriends, who include Hollywood legend Warren Beatty and rocker Sir Mick Jagger, but she had persistently refused to name the man behind the track.

But Simon has now revealed who was so vain by giving fans a cryptic clue in an acoustic version of the song, which features on her upcoming album "Never Been Gone."

She tells Uncut magazine, "You know what, I'm just going to tell you this. The answer is on the new version of 'You're So Vain,' on my new record 'Never Been Gone.' There's a little whisper and it's the answer to the puzzle."

The singer whispers Geffen's name backwards in the track, according to Britain's The Sun newspaper.

Geffen ran Simon's Elektra Records label at the time of the song's release and instead of being about a failed relationship, the lyrics are now thought to hint at the singer's lingering resentment after Geffen allegedly put more effort into promoting rival star Joni Mitchell.
http://music.msn.com/music/article.a...5058&GT1=28102
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I'm hesitant to ask what "Uncut" magazine is.
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I'm hesitant to ask what "Uncut" magazine is.
Obviously Simon made the revelation there because she knew Geffen would never read it.
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Uncut is a really good and prominent British music magazine that is also sold in the States.

It comes with a free themed mix CD every month.

http://www.uncut.co.uk/
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Never Mind.

UPDATE:
Maybe not.
While Simon does whisper "David" backwards, as reported below, she supposedly also whispers the name "Warren" backwards elsewhere on the same album redo. Also, Simon reportedly wasn't mad at Geffen until two years after "You're so Vain" was recorded.
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I bet the guy who paid that $10,000 to Carly in that charity auction a few years ago to know the name may be starting to get a little mad by now...
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This guy is like Deep Throat, we won't know until either he or Simon is dead.
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Uncut is a really good and prominent British music magazine that is also sold in the States.

It comes with a free themed mix CD every month.

http://www.uncut.co.uk/
And it blows away Rolling Stone when it comes to interviews and articles.
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And it blows away Rolling Stone when it comes to interviews and articles.
So does Tiger Beat.
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I bet the guy who paid that $10,000 to Carly in that charity auction a few years ago to know the name may be starting to get a little mad by now...
I was thinking about that guy.

And I think the person is Warren Beatty. I just don't see Mick Jagger, Cat Stevens, or Kris Kristophers on a yaught or owning race horses. It could be David Geffen but as the article notes, she wasn't mad at him until two years after the song was written.

Now for the real question - was Lola in the Kink's song really a girl, or was it a transvestite? In the liner notes for that album they note that the song doesn't say either way - "I know what I am, and I'm glad I'm a man, and so is Lola". Is Lola glad that he's a man, or is Lola a man?
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Is there a bustle in Carly Simon's hedgerow? My sweet Satan.
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I'm hesitant to ask what "Uncut" magazine is.
Only the greatest magazine, among such luminaries as "Inches" "Honcho" and "Studs".
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I still say she wrote this song about ME.
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Is there a bustle in Carly Simon's hedgerow? My sweet Satan.
I really did laugh out loud.
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Re: I never thought the song was about him ('You're So Vain' mystery revealed)

Carly Simon said the second verse is about Warren Beatty:

http://www.people.com/article/carly-...-warren-beatty
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