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Old 03-18-15, 12:13 AM
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I build up such huge backlogs of my podcasts that it almost seems futile to try to catch up.
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Re: Spotify: Everyone Loves Music (or "Streaming is the Future")

I can only imagine that there must be fifty better ways to listen to podcasts than to play them through Spotify. As much as I enjoy the service, their apps generally suck.
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The Apple podcast app is a colossal pain in the ass. Their new setup which tries to run the phone and iTunes independently and is as annoying as hell.

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Re: Spotify: Everyone Loves Music (or "Streaming is the Future")

Spotify's apps work great imo. I just wish I could rearrange songs on my phone.
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You can't? What kind of phone. Pretty easy on the iPhone.
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I use Castro.
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Re: Spotify: Everyone Loves Music (or "Streaming is the Future")

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I use Castro.
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And no I don't need Spotify to handle my podcasts. Doggcatcher does what I need it to do just fine (albeit with much tweakage).
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Re: Spotify: Everyone Loves Music (or "Streaming is the Future")

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 View Post
I build up such huge backlogs of my podcasts that it almost seems futile to try to catch up.


Preach it! I used to more or less keep on top of mine, with the duration of unlistened to podcasts hovering around 10 hours. Now? Nearly 18 DAYS. (Granted, some of those are podcasts I've already listened to and deleted, but iTunes brought them back from the dead via the cloud. I hate that.) There are some shows that I listen to as soon as new episodes are out - Never Not Funny, Mike and Tom Eat Snacks, The Dana Gould Hour, Pop Culture Happy Hour, The Relevant Podcast - but most others just pile up until I find the time to listen to them.
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Re: Spotify: Everyone Loves Music (or "Streaming is the Future")

Originally Posted by RichC2 View Post
Spotify's apps work great imo. I just wish I could rearrange songs on my phone.
When you're in the playlist in iPhone, click on the ellipsis (...) to the right of the playlist name. Click Edit.

You can delete songs by clicking on the red button to the left of the song name, or click-and-hold on the hamburger (the three stacked dashes) to the right of the song name to rearrange the order of songs.
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I'm guessing that feature just never made its way to Android. Lame. I'll just do it from the desktop as usual.

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Old 05-21-15, 10:40 AM
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Re: Spotify: Everyone Loves Music (or "Streaming is the Future")

Spotify Launches Video with ESPN, NBCU, Vice News, Comedy Central and More
MAY 20, 2015 | 08:45AM PT
Todd Spangler

Spotify is branching out from its core streaming-music biz to encompass shortform videos, announcing partners including Disney’s ESPN, ABC, NBCUniversal, Viacom’s Comedy Central, Turner Broadcasting, Conde Nast Entertainment and Vice News.

“We’re a music company at heart,” CEO Daniel Ek said at the company’s press event Wednesday — but it’s now looking to bring those users to video as part of their daily media diet.

The idea is to steer Spotify’s base of music listeners toward video: That will extend the “playlist” of their day in new ways, as Ek put it. But how successfully Spotify can make the leap into video remains unclear.

The new content and features are launching this week for users in the U.S., the U.K., Germany and Sweden, with additional territories to follow, Ek said. Spotify did not indicate whether it’s currently selling video ads for the content it’s licensing.

The privately held company has streamed more than 25 billion hours of music since it launched in 2006, according to Ek. Spotify claims to have more than 15 million subscribers, paying $10 per month, plus more than 60 million active monthly users in 58 markets. Its music catalog includes more than 30 million songs, with 20,000-plus added to the library each day.

Sweden-based Spotify has been criticized for not paying artists fairly for music streamed through its free and premium services. The most notable fracas has been with global superstar Taylor Swift, who yanked her entire catalog from Spotify last year, with her company claiming the singer’s releases would make far more money if they remained off Spotify. Meanwhile, music bigwig Jay-Z last month launched Tidal, a music and video subscription service, arguing that services like Spotify don’t provide a sustainable model for the industry.

With its foray into video, Spotify faces a host of rivals, not least of which is Google’s YouTube, still the 800-pound gorilla in the sector. Other competitors would include social services like Facebook, Twitter and Snapchat; Internet-media hubs like Yahoo and AOL; and startups including Vessel, founded by ex-Hulu CEO Jason Kilar, which offers exclusive early access to video content to subscribers.

Spotify video partners include Comedy Central’s “Broad City,” Legendary Entertainment’s Nerdist Industries, Disney’s Maker Studios, Fullscreen, the BBC, TED and Tastemade (which said it will create two original shows for the service).

NBCU’s rollout on the Spotify mobile video platform will include clips from NBC, E! and Esquire Network including segments from “The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon,” “Late Night with Seth Meyers” and “E! News.” The Peacock also recently struck similar deals with Vessel and AOL.

Meanwhile, cable programmer Turner will distribute clips from Adult Swim series, such as “Robot Chicken,” “Aqua Teen Hunger Force” and “Rick and Morty” along with video segments from latenight show “Conan” hosted by Conan O’Brien to Spotify users in the U.S.; internationally, Turner will offer full-length episodes of some Adult Swim shows.

The company also announced a new feature, Spotify Running, that provides playlists based on a user’s listening history and running tempo, along with a pact with Nike to integrate the service into the Nike+ app later this summer.
http://variety.com/2015/voices/colum...re-1201501485/

I dunno about this. I'm thinking of when a niche cable channel that does one thing well, but then eventually ends up doing a 180 from its original mission and programs unrelated terrible reality shows. Hopefully this isn't the first step in turning Spotify into the slow, bloated mess that is iTunes.

On the other hand, the running thing mentioned at the end of the article sounds like a pretty neat way to innovate how they deliver music.
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Re: Spotify: Everyone Loves Music (or "Streaming is the Future")

I think the video stuff is a bad idea. Everybody's trying this these days, Facebook, Snapchat, it's all over the place. Everyone's trying to make themselves the hub to the internet these days. It's like they learned nothing from AOL. Bad trend.
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Exactly. What's wrong with doing one thing and doing it well? It's not like Spotify has done all it could with music and its platform is now perfect. There's still plenty of room for improvement, as well as innovation. Anyway, this piece sums up my feelings well:

Hey Spotify: Not Every Tech Company Needs to Be Everything

SPOTIFY HAS MADE official its long-rumored plans to become more than a streaming music service. It sounds nice! Streaming video, podcasts, playlists that bend and warp to match your running pace will all pile into the popular app. Itís a huge updateóone that signals Spotify is now part of a legion of tech companies determined to become everything to everyone, whether it makes sense for you, them, or anyone at all.

You donít have to look far for other recent examples. Snapchat adds Discover to strap a content machine on top of its ephemeral messaging app. Facebook absorbs articles by major media companies to create a self-contained mirror Internet. Uber builds self-driving cars to control every aspect of the future of transit. These arenít pivots, as they say, so much as they are tenuously constructed chimera, features and functions stapled together in an effort to become The One True Internet Experience.

It shouldnít be surprising that venture-cash-rich companies are making these kinds of land grabs; total dominance has a nice ring to it. But weíve been through this before. It didnít work outónot for the companies that tried it, and not for their customers.

Everything Digital Must Converge
The idea of being a one-stop digital shop is nothing novel. The AOL of the 90s remains the most commonly cited example, for its (largely successful, for awhile!) efforts to create an Internet within the Internet. News, messaging, email, commerce, browsing, chat; all of it without leaving the confines of America Online.

Facebook has become the new AOL, for its similar entrapments. But what AOL then, and Facebook and Spotify and Snapchat now (and in a slightly different way, Apple and Google and Amazon) all want to be is whatís typically called a portal, a place that collects the larger webóor parts of it, anywayóin a single place.

That description has always seemed a bit off to me, though; a portal can be an entrance or an exit. Itís maybe more appropriate to compare their aspirations to pitcher plants, those carnivorous flora that invite you inside but make it nearly impossible to leave. Why ditch Spotify to watch video when there are Vice News clips right there? Why leave Facebook for the New York Times when the whole article lives natively in your app? Why experience the world through anything but Snaps?

The potential payoff, if your company can successfully ensnare the bulk of internet users, is astronomical. Which explains why so many startups view all-encompassing expansion as a legitimate strategy; Snapchatís reportedly valued at $19 billion, while Spotify hovered around $8 billion as recently as last month. Those are large numbers to live up to, even before you consider that neither company appears to have turned a profit yet.

That surely at least in part explains the push for big. But big doesnít necessarily mean successfulóespecially for users.

Lonely Islands
There are significant philosophical concerns about what these silos mean for the open web; the whole point of having the entire Internet at your disposal is that thereís no need for a portal or a one-stop shop. And having any one company (or more specifically, that companyís algorithms) dictate what, when, and how millions of people experience the digital world feels at least mildly dystopian.

The more practical problem, though, is that itís unrealistic to expect any one company to be the best at any one thing, much less everything. Being served Broad City video clips by Spotify is marginally more convenient than switching to YouTube, sure, in the same way that itís easier to be fed a few raisins than it is to walk to the fridge for a mouthwatering bunch of grapes. Same with getting your news from Snapchat, or getting anything from Facebook.

Itís true that no one is forcing you to limit yourself to any one app. But people are lazy! And even if youíre not, itís also true that the feature bloat that comes with trying to be everything to everyone causes apps and services that were once very good and streamlined and smart to become a hot mess. The Facebook app in particular became so overstuffed that it had to jettison Messenger altogether.

The result of trying to do so much inevitably turns apps into a Las Vegas buffet experience: unlimited access to a mediocre version of anything you want!

Creating Value, Not Features
Maybe thatís just the way things are now; itís increasingly hard to find companies that specialize, either digitally or in the real world. Sonos makes a hell of a connected speaker. Evernote offers best-in-class note-keeping. Dropbox syncs files better than anyone. A smattering of headphone and camera companies make great products within their niche. But these are the exception, not the rule. And how long before most of them get absorbed by a monolith, or try to become one themselves?

When todayís aspirational omnivores look for inspiration, they should start with Google. Thereís maybe no tech company with more diverse interests, sure, but the thing that drives its profit margins is singular: A full 90 percent of Googleís revenue last year came from ads. It knows what it is, and what it is hasnít changed since the very beginning. Meanwhile AOL, the original one-stop shop, just got sold for ad tech scraps.

Itís easy to forget, though, when people are shoving hundreds of millions of dollars at you, that new inroads donít guarantee greater success. Not every company can be everything, especially not after all that venture capital money dries up. Eventually the economy will correct, the bubble will burst, and the companies that have found a way to make money will have a marked advantage over the ones that simply piled on more features.
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How about instead of video, Spotify fixes their existing service so every time I click on a track, it actually plays?

I feel like the amount of bugs I encounter on Spotify has gone up a lot lately. They're not making it difficult for me to try out the Apple streaming service when it gets announced.
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I only use streaming if I can't find a way to download and play directly from my computer. Almost never.
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Re: Spotify: Everyone Loves Music (or "Streaming is the Future")

I like Spotify and use it a ton .. but I do not see the point in video, there are plenty of options out there.

If they wanted to work in music videos for a band/album/song .. that might be cool
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I have no problem with this. Think if Amazon never got away from selling books...
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Re: Spotify: Everyone Loves Music (or "Streaming is the Future")

Looking forward to trying the new "Running" feature this weekend:

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Re: Spotify: Everyone Loves Music (or "Streaming is the Future")

Keep us posted as to how well it works. I can't wait to try it once it's available for Android.

I found one review of it here: http://www.theatlantic.com/entertain...s-high/393905/

I'm curious to try the "experiences", specifically the Seasons one.
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I have no problem with this. Think if Amazon never got away from selling books...
Not a great comparison, IMO. Amazon sold products. At first, it was books. Then it became more products, but they were still doing the same basic thing: Selling products.

Now, granted, Amazon has diversified into music and movies and web services, all of which are outside of its core business, and so far they've done well, but they also lose a lot of money too. Look at their financials, even though they're one of the main hubs of the web, they actually don't make a ton of profit.

If Spotify had announced Spotify Running, podcasts, and improved suggestions/playlists, I'd be all for it. But the video content takes Spotify away from its core business, and let's face it, don't we already have tons of ways to access that kind of video content? I don't see this working out well for Spotify, especially since there's still room for improvement on the music side of things.
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Looking forward to trying the new "Running" feature this weekend:

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Re: Spotify: Everyone Loves Music (or "Streaming is the Future")

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If Spotify had announced Spotify Running, podcasts, and improved suggestions/playlists, I'd be all for it. But the video content takes Spotify away from its core business, and let's face it, don't we already have tons of ways to access that kind of video content? I don't see this working out well for Spotify, especially since there's still room for improvement on the music side of things.
100% agree with this entire post. Like oh so many of their other "features" (Spotify Apps, Spotify MP3 store...) this video stuff is going to bomb. Nobody wants this from Spotify. I want a streaming music service that doesn't bug out all the time. Mobile app feature parity would be nice once in awhile, too, especially for a company as big as they are in this market. I have iOS, Android, Windows PCs & phones, and a PS4 in my home, that all have Spotify apps, and they ALL work at different levels of stability/functionality. Sure the mobile apps appear identical, but they're most definitely not. My point is, as a single user with multiple platforms in use on a regular basis, it would be nice to see some unification in their apps instead of adding more shit that won't be seen across the board for months or years.

The "running" feature is the most innovative thing they've actually done in years, but everything else is just... filler, and doesn't address the core problems with the service. But since these guys are doing so well in terms of subscriber count, they have no reason to fix things.
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I'm a daily user but I guess I missed it. What's wrong with the core service?
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Still no first party support for Chromecast? WTF?

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Re: Spotify: Everyone Loves Music (or "Streaming is the Future")

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How about instead of video, Spotify fixes their existing service so every time I click on a track, it actually plays?

I feel like the amount of bugs I encounter on Spotify has gone up a lot lately. They're not making it difficult for me to try out the Apple streaming service when it gets announced.
I have a similar issue with Spotify. I thought it was being messed up by my company firewall or something. I guess it's good to see that's not the reason.

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