We were saved in the latter-half of 1991
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Please, you show me in one interview anywhere Soundgarden (or Nirvana, Pearl Jam, or Alice In Chains for that matter) accepted and promoted the term for themselves as you purport they did....good luck with that, as it is well know that all four of these bands found the label to be ridiculous....
http://www.nyrock.com/interviews/1999/cornell_int.asp
I mean, He certainly does nothing to distance himself from the label in the interview.
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You're saying Beyonce & Kanye & Shikara are better than Michael Jackson (who Nirvana knocked off the top of the charts) or Boys 2 Men? I think they all completely suck, but at least Jackson had what you could call a memorable song. Or a "song".
Random handclaps, big boom-boom bass drums, wannabe soulful singing and people saying "yeh yeh" in the background is not really what I'd call a "song". (my rule is that if I can do it, write it, or play it, it's not a song)
Random handclaps, big boom-boom bass drums, wannabe soulful singing and people saying "yeh yeh" in the background is not really what I'd call a "song". (my rule is that if I can do it, write it, or play it, it's not a song)
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You're saying Beyonce & Kanye & Shikara are better than Michael Jackson (who Nirvana knocked off the top of the charts) or Boys 2 Men? I think they all completely suck, but at least Jackson had what you could call a memorable song. Or a "song".
Random handclaps, big boom-boom bass drums, wannabe soulful singing and people saying "yeh yeh" in the background is not really what I'd call a "song". (my rule is that if I can do it, write it, or play it, it's not a song)
Random handclaps, big boom-boom bass drums, wannabe soulful singing and people saying "yeh yeh" in the background is not really what I'd call a "song". (my rule is that if I can do it, write it, or play it, it's not a song)
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Five reasons why 1991 was a good year for music:
1. Slint - Spiderland
2. The Jesus Lizard - Goat
3. Screeching Weasel - My Brain Hurts (anyone who likes the stuff the Ramones did in the 1970s needs to check out this album)
4. Fugazi - Steady Diet of Nothing
5. Nation of Ulysses - 13-Point Program to Destroy America
1. Slint - Spiderland
2. The Jesus Lizard - Goat
3. Screeching Weasel - My Brain Hurts (anyone who likes the stuff the Ramones did in the 1970s needs to check out this album)
4. Fugazi - Steady Diet of Nothing
5. Nation of Ulysses - 13-Point Program to Destroy America
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I guess I should have said that Nirvana becoming popular in '91 was what changed the face of rock music, from hair bands to grunge. Nirvana had the MTV music video with the exploding school gym which introduced their music to millions who liked it.
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Yes. I'm just saying that Cobain was aware, throughout his brief time at the top of the charts, that Nirvana wasn't the innovative force that the media pegged them as. He frequently acknowledged in interviews where he got his musical influences from.
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One decade's crappy pop music is no better or worse than another decade's. The difference is that people remember the crappy pop of their adolescence or young adulthood more fondly because of all the other things they associate with it. I defy anyone to tell me that "Sugar, Sugar" or "Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Old Oak Tree" are somehow superior to whatever is playing pop radio right now.
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No. I'm saying that there's good music produced by good artists every year. And to extend that argument further, even if the pop charts are dominated by disposable crap (which you can say about any era of music anyway), finding good music is easier now than it's ever been since I've been actively listening to popular music, a period that's now longer than 35 years.
One decade's crappy pop music is no better or worse than another decade's. The difference is that people remember the crappy pop of their adolescence or young adulthood more fondly because of all the other things they associate with it. I defy anyone to tell me that "Sugar, Sugar" or "Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Old Oak Tree" are somehow superior to whatever is playing pop radio right now.
One decade's crappy pop music is no better or worse than another decade's. The difference is that people remember the crappy pop of their adolescence or young adulthood more fondly because of all the other things they associate with it. I defy anyone to tell me that "Sugar, Sugar" or "Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Old Oak Tree" are somehow superior to whatever is playing pop radio right now.
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Also, cherry-picking Michael Jackson ignores the metric tons of pure, grade-A shit that was on the radio in the eighties (Jodie Watley, Kajagoogoo anyone?). People always do this, they cherry-pick the absolute best music of a particular era and then compare it to what's popular in the current day.
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The same thing could have been said during the disco era or the new wave/new romantic era or the late-eighties New Jack Swing era. Etc, etc. Rock was breifly more popular in Nirvana's wake, but even at that point there was much more R&B, pop and hip-hop on the radio at the time.
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Radiohead
Interpol
The Strokes
Modest Mouse
Spoon
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
The White Stripes
The National
Sleater-Kinney
The Hold Steady
Wolf Parade
I just came up with those in literally 2 minutes by going through my "Favorite albums of the decade" list. I could come up with more if I really sat down and thought about it.
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A few weeks ago I made a compilation CD of all the Kings of Leon singles. An absolutely fantastic collection of music that I would put against the discographies of nearly any classic rock band.
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You have got to be kidding. Unless by classic rock band you mean .38 Special or Creed. When they release an album that's even close to being a classic, let us know.
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"Sugar, Sugar" and "Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Old Oak Tree" are superior to whatever is playing pop radio right now.
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Screeching Weasel may be the most under-rated band in the history of the universe. I take some comfort in knowing that, because I am hip to them, that there's a real cool club and I am a part of it.
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I don't listen to pop, I haven't cared for pop in 25 years, and if I never hear TiK ToK again in my life, I won't shed a single tear. But the state of music today, artistically speaking, is no worse than the state of music when you were 12 years old (or whatever golden age you're hearkening back to).
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I fucking would in a heartbeat. I LOVES me some Tony Orlando or phony cartoon bands. But I can't stand hip-hop or wuss-rock like "Breaking Benjamin", "Kings of Leon", etc.