"the best album since _____" syndrome
I notice pretty much every artist with over 20 years to their belt get this everytime a new album comes out that gets good word of mouth... the current example I can think of if the new Pet Shop Boys album Yes, which I've already heard the "this is the best album since Very (1993)" comment from several fans.
Usually the album that gets compared to is usually seen as the last album of a classic run that every album since gets held up against. Examples: Rolling Stones - Tattoo You David Bowie - Scary Monsters (who infamously referred to this and said he considered releasing an album called "The Best Album Since Scary Monsters", lol) U2 - Achtung Baby (the latter albums have gotten good reviews but they still can't seem to escape Achtung) Prince - Sign O' The Times REM - Automatic For The People Depeche Mode - Violator any others? I know there are dozens more where this comes from |
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Metallica - Master of Puppets/And Justice for All (people will say one or the other)
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I felt like Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot set the standard for new indie/alt-country(?)/mildly distorted singer/songwriter releases there for awhile.
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Pearl Jam - Vitology
Neil Young - Harvest Moon Tom Petty - Full Moon Fever Beck - Midnight Vultures Garbage - Version 2.0 |
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Originally Posted by Decker
(Post 9345429)
Beck - Midnight Vultures
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Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
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Originally Posted by Mhepburn20
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Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
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Originally Posted by Matt Millheiser
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Which is odd. TUSK is fucking genius, man...
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Sometimes I think the example is kind of insulting, like "the Cure's best album since Bloodflowers." Really? Best out of two? High praise indeed.
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Originally Posted by nothingfails
(Post 9346145)
I agree. I thought it was so laughable when I saw some cheap Fleetwood biography special (one which was so cheap they didn't use any band interviews dating past the Tango In The Night era and used soundalike "Don't Stop" music and nothing else) and they had this chart historian there who was all "Tusk didn't even go to #1, it was a bad album" basically. The worst part is when he even said that "Mirage was a rebound from the awful Tusk" and I have never met one FM fan who has ever thought that. Mirage was a #1 and Tusk wasn't because Mirage was a safe mainstream album meant to appeal to the widest possible audience. This guy lives by his chart positions and thinks that's the measure of how good an album is or isn't and that's utter BS.
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Originally Posted by nothingfails
(Post 9346145)
I agree. I thought it was so laughable when I saw some cheap Fleetwood biography special (one which was so cheap they didn't use any band interviews dating past the Tango In The Night era and used soundalike "Don't Stop" music and nothing else) and they had this chart historian there who was all "Tusk didn't even go to #1, it was a bad album" basically. The worst part is when he even said that "Mirage was a rebound from the awful Tusk" and I have never met one FM fan who has ever thought that. Mirage was a #1 and Tusk wasn't because Mirage was a safe mainstream album meant to appeal to the widest possible audience. This guy lives by his chart positions and thinks that's the measure of how good an album is or isn't and that's utter BS.
I thought "Tango in the Night" was their last good one. |
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Originally Posted by mickey65
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I thought "Tango in the Night" was their last good one.
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Originally Posted by Decker
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Pearl Jam - Vitology
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Originally Posted by nothingfails
(Post 9346556)
Say You Will would've been better if trimmed down a bit. Perfect example IMO of an album that got bogged down for being too long. Tusk's length was justified, SYW was about six songs too long.
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[QUOTE=Coral;9347084]Totally agree. I would've scrapped 6 songs as well - QUOTE]
Which six out of interest? Mine would be: Red Rover (Indulgent nonsense). Come (Ditto) Illume (Dull) and probably three other Nicks ones, but I can't recall them offhand as they are so forgettable. |
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Wow
Love all the fleetwood mac chat. I saw that same fake music special (I think it was on the Bio channel last month) and they blatantly said Rumours was the musical high point and they never would approach the same - and while it may be a commercial high point - Tusk, Tango, and Say You Will kicked ass. I too would have trimmed a few songs from Say You Will 1. Smile at You (overproduced, could have been great but one of the few times I think Buckingham ruined a Stevie Nicks Song) 2. Destiny Rules (UGH - her voice could NOT sound any more nasally) 3. Say You Will (blatant attempt at pop commercialism complete with children singing the final chorus) 4. Come (simply not my cup of tea and not a fleetwood mac song - were Christine still in the band she would have fought against this being in the record I am sure) 5. What's the World Coming to (um... no - Murrow Turning over - intelligent political rock song - this one, fluff) 6. Bleed to Love Her (we had it on the dance - no need for the repeat) |
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Weezer hasn't had a good album since Pinkerton
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[QUOTE=Mhepburn20;9347442]Wow
and while it may be a commercial high point - Tusk, Tango, and Say You Will kicked ass. QUOTE] I am listening to Mirage and remembering that there are still some very good tracks on that too...most of them in fact. Prefer the others to Mirage but it's still good. Any thoughts on The Mask - or Time? I actually really like the Time album Here's a link to another recently active FM thread here in Aust. http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum....cfm?t=1166491 |
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Originally Posted by Aphex Twin
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Weezer hasn't had a good album since Pinkerton
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Originally Posted by The Bus
(Post 9345745)
Sorry, no.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
(Post 9347683)
I think Sea Change was Beck's best and the one I'm still waiting for him to top, or even equal.
A BIG one of these is with Bob Dylan and 'Blood On The Tracks'. You see "Dylan's best work since 'Blood On The Tracks'" variants on a bunch of his releases since that masterpiece. |
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Originally Posted by Decker
(Post 9345429)
Pearl Jam - Vitology
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RHCP- Blood Sugar Sex Magik (although I prefer Mother's Milk myself)
Sonic Youth- Daydream Nation/Goo Nine Inch Nails- Downward Spiral AC/DC- Back in Black Public Enemy- Fear of a Black Planet for Tom Petty I've got to go Wildflowers, a much better album than Full Moon Fever IMO. |
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
(Post 9347683)
While I love Midnite Vultures, I think Sea Change was Beck's best and the one I'm still waiting for him to top, or even equal.
Mutations, on the other hand, is all kinds of awesome... :up: |
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Oh, and Radiohead's would be "OK Computer". I don't think they'll ever top that critically, at least not for awhile.
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